Disliking players from your own team, the team you love and adore, is an odd feeling. Kieran Richardson probably brought about the strongest feelings of dislike I’d had from one of our own, probably worked up by all the other reds I spoke to, but still a rational enough feeling. He saw himself as Jonny Big Balls and didn’t have the attitude we expect from players who have come through the ranks. I was glad to see the back of him.
Before him, I had grown tired of the likes of David Beckham and Ruud van Nistelrooy, but I wouldn’t even say I’d gone as far as disliking them at the time of their departure. Their career with us had run its course, they had been by and large totally dedicated, and had been very important players for us.
Cristiano Ronaldo has brought about a difficult situation for me, and plenty of other reds, by splitting us with his incredible ability but his dreadful behaviour. I don’t need to go in to detail over how the events of last summer, his lack of effort for the team this season and his refusal to commit to next season have bothered me, because I’ve made that known. Whilst I can acknowledge that we probably are better having him than not (the effect his attitude and lack of effort might have an effect on his team-mates weighs the other side of the scales against his brilliant talent), I can’t say I’d be too disappointed if we sold him for a load of money this season if we see a repeat performance of last summer.
To have one player in your team that you’re not fond of is difficult enough, but when it becomes two, you’re in trouble.
Carlos Tevez has won all of us over in his two year stint with the club, thanks to his brilliant effort and good ability. He works hard for the team and seems to have a real connection with the fans. Throughout his first season we just assumed that at the end of the two-year loan we would definitely make the agreement permanent. What could possibly stand in the way?
Then we signed Dimitar Berbatov and suddenly Tevez’s future wasn’t as clear as it had been. Sir Alex Ferguson sensibly started Berbatov in pretty much every game. Berbatov hadn’t gone through a pre-season and had never played with our team before, so it was essential that he got as much game time under his belt as possible.
Rooney, Tevez and Berbatov all started in the Bulgarian’s first game for United and the first three minutes were fantastic. We ripped Liverpool apart at Anfield and it looked as though they were in for a thrashing. The first goal came when Berbatov perfectly pulled the ball back for Tevez to strike. This was just what we had been looking for! However, things quickly turned sour, United just seemed to give up, Berbatov picked up a knock, Vidic got sent off, and United lost 2-1.
United’s next league game was away to Chelsea and Berbatov started up front alongside Rooney. Tevez was on the bench and didn’t get to come on, something which, he later confirmed, annoyed him.
Our next big(ish) game came away to Everton, where again Rooney and Berbatov started up front, with Tevez coming on as a sub in the 78th minute. Then our trip to the Emirates, Rooney and Berbatov to start, Tevez coming on in the 77th minute. Then derby day at Wastelands with Rooney and Berbatov starting, Tevez on the bench, and Giggs being preferred to replace Berbatov in the 83rd minute. This game came three days after Tevez bagged a hat-trick for United in the League Cup. Our next big game was Chelsea at home, with Rooney and Berbatov starting (and scoring) whilst Tevez was an unused sub. Then Everton at home where Tevez started in place of an injured Rooney.
Then as the season turned and got to the important phase, Tevez was used more often. Berbatov had been given plenty of opportunities to gel with the team by now and it was time for Tevez to get more matches. As well as helping Berbatov fit in, had Sir Alex also been conserving Carlos for what he regarded the most important stage in the season?
Tevez started and played the full game in our League Cup final against Spurs. He started and played 90 minutes of our next home game against Liverpool in March, with Berbatov coming off the bench for Park in the 74th minute. He started and played 87 minutes in our following home against Aston Villa. He played for the length of our FA Cup semi-final at Wembley. He started in the European Cup semi-final against Arsenal. He started on derby day, at the expense of Rooney. He started our crucial last home game against Arsenal.
Had Tevez not started any of the important games then I would understand his frustrations better. As it is, he has spent over half the season primarily on the sidelines to accomodate for a new player who had to adjust to being in the team. Since then, he has played in and started plenty of our crucial games. After all, Tevez was our first substitute in Rome, whilst Berbatov didn’t come on until midway through the second half.
So Tevez’s attitude and the reaction of the fans towards him has started to grate on me. I hated that during Sir Alex Ferguson’s end of season speech after the Arsenal game, the Stretford End, then several other parts of the ground, shouted the manager down. “Fergie, sign him up!” they bellowed, to the point where Ferguson could no longer be heard, but, clearly embarrassed, struggled to make his voice heard. It was awkward and disrespectful.
I’ve hated hearing Tevez speaking to the press time and again about his unhappiness with the ‘way he has been treated’. You can understand why he would be unhappy with the amount of time he’s played this season in comparison to last, but there’s no understanding for him to repeatedly go to the press with it. Is that the way you treat a club you want to stay with, slagging them off constantly?
It seems to me as though Tevez has ideas above his station. Ruud van Nistelrooy behaved in the same way towards the end of his United career, not prepared to let the in form Louis Saha start ahead of him, but even that was more understandable than Tevez’s behaviour. No disrespect to our favourite Argie but van Nistelrooy was a fucking brilliant player so it made more sense that he was disgruntled at being dropped. He scored 150 goals in 219 games, so whilst I don’t condone his sulking, it does make more sense. For all Tevez’s hard work, his brilliant finishing, and important goals, he’s hardly the best there is, if we’re being honest. I love his attitude to the game and he’s been an important player for us but he isn’t in any position to throw his dummy out for not playing every game. Cristiano Ronaldo is about the only player Ferguson plays for every game, with Rooney and Berbatov both missing out on big games this season. And let’s get real, Carlos Tevez is no Cristiano Ronaldo.
So, where does this leave us then? Do we want Tevez to go to City or Liverpool or anywhere else? Or do we want him to stay?
If his problem is lack of playing time, then that problem will be solved to some extent next season. Whilst Berbatov is likely to be favoured more often than not, Tevez should get more matches now that the Bulgarian is better settled. But if Tevez’s problem is he wants to start more often than not, then that problem will not be solved and he would be better off leaving. It is no good to hear him whinging every time he misses out on a game against Chelsea or a final.
When I feel wound up by the situation, like immiediately after he has just bad-mouthed the club, I want him to go to City. I want him to trade in his medals at United for the money and playing time of City. See how much he has to whinge about then, when he’s playing for a team whose fans don’t sell out the ground every week and whose trophy cabinet has been empty for 33 years and counting.
But in reality, the best situation from here, unless we can talk Kia down to a more reasonable price, is to let him go, and hope that a club abroad present a more appealing offer for him than any Premiership team. I would like him our squad next season but I won’t be heartbroken if he leaves. The only frustration about him joining City or Liverpool would be the mocking that would come with it. It wouldn’t take long for the chants about us not being able to afford him or him choosing their club over ours, both of which aren’t true, to start. That would be irritating. And to see a player who has had such a strong connection with our fans wearing the shirt of our biggest rivals would be gutting. The chants of “Fergie, sign him up!” would become an embarrassment to us.
Regardless, it’s a strange and totally foreign feeling to me, not liking our own players. But I suppose it’s something we’re going to become more used to. I know Chelsea fans who hate Drogba, Liverpool fans who hate Lucas, and Arsenal fans who hate Bendtner. It’s the changing face of the game.
This mess should all be sorted out sooner or later. It would be nice if we could agree a reasonable deal for Tevez, but equally, I’m not going to be too arsed if we don’t. He hasn’t impressed me at all recently and his attitude would have to change if he was going to fit in to the squad in the long-term. Listen to Park or clear off gracefully and quietly, please.
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Gotta hate Anderson. Ok not hate. dislike (my reasons for have been seen on my article comment sections) I’d probably hate Ronaldo/G.Neville if I wasn’t a fan. Can see why others dislike.
as ive said many times before on this vice champion site(but champion in my heart)
ive been let down by players on and off pitch behavour
took rons side with the ruud thing
but tevez has really really just annoyed me to the same level as
terry backing drogba
or rafa ,the man(?)
,
kaka has always said he doesnt want to leave even thou milan are trying to drop him to anyone with an open wallet
and if kaka came out and lay into the milan manager then thats with just cause
but tevez aint no fletcher never mind kaka
the disrespect he showed sir alexs team and sir alex himself by what he said about him not being in the starting line up in rome is just cause alone to see the back of him,
he scored 2 goals in a row in his last 4th and 3rd goal this season
but before that he’d 3 goals in 26 games
kiko had 2 in 2
for all the running he does its far from 32 million
park aint worth that and he does more work than tevez thinks he does
.
he aint no berbatov
Good points there Scott, I agree with you
I know very few reds who want him to stay. We could get a lot more for 25m than Carlito. FERGIE KICK HIM OUT, FERGIE, FERGIE KICK HIM OUT!
Players want to play football, not sit on the bench and then play for 15 minutes for a match.
He does indeed, and probably will, leave Manchester United, and frankly, I wouldn’t blame him.
Scott, I think you are living in the past, we now have so many foreign players, they grew up in countries where there “Dream Clubs” ARE NOT united and no bound loyalty to us. Ronaldo has been with us for many, many years now, and you can’t blame him for wanting to leave to join his childhood dream club. – That’s nothing to dislike about the player, imo, I would praise following aspirations.
great post scott!
if he tays he stays
if he goes he goes
but the price they want
no fuckin way
15 at the most
a;ready spent 10
so 5 million for him
but he better shut his mouth and prove his worth
but i dont want the player
Hmmm, difficult one.
Firstly Ronaldo. Was sick to the stomach this time last year, after winning the league and champs league should have had a summer of celebration, but it all seemed stained by constant dreams of playing in white, me mam loves Madrid, etc. This summer, well, if Ronaldo wants to go, let him. Get £70-£75, sell a few fringe players, and with the money available to spend anyway, well, your looking £100+ for new players. That’s more than enough to buy 3 or 4 class players. I would be happy with that. If he wants to stay, fine, but I want to see the Ronaldo of 2 seasons back, committed, 30 to 40 goals, you know the one. Downsides, well, I can see him running down his contract and leaving for nothing or very little in a couple of years and that would be more gauling. If he was to leave, maybe Rooney would flourish and grow into the player we all know he can be not having to play on the left or whatever to fit round winker ron. Who knows, maybe even Berba would grow into the player he can be if not in Ronaldos shadow. I say get rid for the right money.
Tevez!!!! am really split with this one. £25 million on top of what we have paid already. I don’t know. If it was £18 or so and he took his place in the squad, yes, but if Ronaldo stays that’s most if not all the summer transfer money gone. I think that would be better spent on a top class midfield player. Don’t know who, not paid millions a year to know who is good around the world, but I think 1 top class player would solve a lot of problems in that area that suddenly seem to have appeared. So, if we get £75 for winker and have maybe £90 to £100+, then yes to Tev staying, if he goes, well, thanks for the memory, had some good times, if you sign for the dippers fuck off, for citeh, well, good luck.
Jaz, he is playing for the the Champions of England, World Champions and er Vice European Champions.
He is simply not worth the money quoted he is playing a game with the fans which is pathetic, to say he has been treated awfully by the club is laughable. He has won 2 premier league winners medals, European Cup, Carling Cup, World Club Champions and has earned £75k a week, wish I was treated as poorly.
If he wants to start every week then join Villa or Everton and win nothing, simple.
jaz your talking shit
every united fan kn ows ronaldo loves real and we kinda wait till he leaves but hope its not soon
no one talks bad about that
GHTT i agree
and i freeking love emilys videos
why is that fat guy doing liverpool impressions on sky sports news
but emily isnt
something should be done
Scott i am afraid that we have given in to the blackmail and have offered Kia what he originally wanted.And it still might not be enough.I don’t believe that there are many chances of Ronaldo and Tevez both staying at the club.But if they do,my stance against them will be the same one that i had for Ronaldo this year:i am with him for 90 minutes and that’s all.Outside of the pitch,both of them are non existant as far as i am concerned.Rooney is United’s heart and soul these days(Giggs,Nev and Scholey are legends but on a different level than Rooney).
nice one spanky
what fat guy?
rafa?
tevez ring around to anyone you know who has left man united and ask them how much better off they are
unless your becks bank manager
it doesnt work that way
costas, or we have called his bluff maybe?
“I would like him our squad next season but I won’t be heartbroken if he leaves.”
absolutely agree with this one. he has a place in our squad, but rather he goes in case he is not able to take the fact he cannot play every game. then he is worth the club of a City range. he wouldn`t play each game in Real nor in Liverpool. sooner he understands it sooner he realizes he could have stayed in the best club in the world
what fat guy
trouble is non of them love the club they only here for the money with expeption of giggs scholes and neville, also dislike Ronaldo take the cash for him to go to Madrid and bring in KAKA OH YEAH
The Tevez situation is a difficult one, because I completely agree with the disapproval of his attitude and behaviour of the pitch and I don’t think he is a £25 mil player but I love the effort and the fact that his presence on the pitch lifts the whole team.
As far as Ronaldo is concerned, I have not been his biggest fan since all the crap last summer over shadowed our triumph in Moscow and dont plan to get pissed off all over agin this summer with the possibility of him leaving. Fergie should put a price on his head £70 mil + tell him he can go for no less and tell Real to put up or shut up.
If Carlos goes I will be gutted but as you say there is better out there for £20 mil so as long as we replace him I’m sure I will get over it.
If Ronaldo goes great because if we get the sort of money they are talking we can buy two or three class players who don’t have the petulance/arrogance of Ronaldo.
As much as I like the guy, I wouldn’t want us to shell out anything near 25 million on him and, given Kia isn’t an idiot, he won’t accept anything less than that when he’s got other clubs offering more… That probably means farewell Carlito… Just hope he has enough respect for us so as not to go to City or ‘pool.
@Stephen:
You could be right mate.It may be a good move by the club after all.If Tevez stays,it solve the problem of finding a new striker.If he leaves,we will save 25 million for other players and it will make Tevez look like the bad guy.We made the offer he wanted but he left because he wanted to be treated better than the rest of the players.It could be a win/win situation.
Firstly Ronnie will NOT be going anywhere. The lad has been here longer than people remember . Will it be his seventh season next year? As I keep saying never mind if he is under contract the Nike/Adidas thing alone is a huge stumbling block. Anyway enough of him. Like most have said I would like him to stay but won’t be gutted if he leaves. Although his goal on derby day is worth him staying for! My concern is Hargo and that holding midfield role next season.
“Just hope he has enough respect for us so as not to go to City or ‘pool.” Me too mate.
Yes King Eric.Ronaldo will enter his 7th season.Hargreaves is a concern.The talk in the newspapers these days is crazy.I will wait anxiously for him to train and then we will see what his true condition is.If he is out until January,i would look for a loan deal ala Larsson.There must be a player out there like that to fill in the DM role.Not in every game of course but just give the others a rest.
next week we will come to know the fate of Tevez. but what if we sign him and he still moans about not getting playing time.
Maybe others will disagree but I don’t think Kaka is even near the level of Ronnie or Messi anymore….nor is Ribery….
Certain players are irreplaceable…… Carlos is definitely not one of those…..
This is another case of hold the team with money to ransom…… He is worth maybe half of the fee wanted for him…… David Villa would cost less than Tevez!!
We need a midfield general and perhaps an out an out striker (in the mould of Ruud or Torres)
You can’t expect him to show respect to a club who (according to the papers) have ahd plenty of chance to sign him and have never made it clear to him or us whether they intend on keeping him. (he’s not the type of player to sulk and stop playing cause he’s not here next season).
If he went to either of those two scummy teams i wouldn’t blame him. I really like him cause he’s such a hard working player who gives a 100%. I modern football strikers don’t just need to score goals but track back.
“Maybe others will disagree but I don’t think Kaka is even near the level of Ronnie or Messi anymore….nor is Ribery…. ”
Could not agree more, and Costas yeah a loan deal a la Larsson for a holding midfielder would not be a bad idea if necessary.
Wazza that concerns me too.But here is the difference.He will not belong to Kia anymore.He will belong to Manchester United.That means that if SAF will tell him to shut his mouth,he will shut his mouth.
Guys i was wondering about this.IF Tevez stays,how do you see the future for Kiko and Welbeck?Keep them both or send one of the two on loan?
Kieran Richardson was a twat and rightfully disliked by us. I also used to hate Quinton Fortune as he was never good enough to wear our shirt and probably wouldn’t even cut it the Norwegian top division (so ironic that we bought Fortune the summer of ’99 after our glorious Treble). My personal most disliked player must be Rio Ferdinand for his constant lapses of concentration, his drug abuse (no, I don’t believe he was innocent), his willingness to start the ban earlier in order to make it for the Euro 2004 (thus choosing Ingerlund over United) and for his unwillingness to sign a new contract after the club had supported him throughout his ban. He didn’t convince me that he was world class untill last season, and I don’t think he’s been that good this season. Future United Captain? A guy who’d like to be Snoop Dogg?! You’ve gotta be kidding me.
Scott lad you need to grow up over Ronaldo. His performances gave us at least two Premiership titles.
As for Tevez he’s not Manchester United class so I am not bothered. He should go and who cares let the dippers have him why not? Remember a player is nothing away from Old Trafford.
Probs more likely to send Wellbeck on loan….
Kiko is physically ready for the premiership (even if he is only 17)….
Sir Alex has said that once Wellbeck “finishes growing” that he will be an amazing player
Not bothered about Tevez. I wouldn’t sign him for £25m or whatever it is.
Let City buy him
@Costas, one will go on loan for sure
Chingar, I can’t disagree about the lapses of concentration and him stalling about the new contract,but the other two you mentioned are wrong.He did a test 36 hours after he missed the original test and he came back clean.Rio is not the poster boy for drug abuse in football,come on.And he didn’t start his ban earlier.He started it on time and he knew full well that he would miss the Euros.The appeal was always going to fail.He has made mistakes but he has also made amends in the last 4 years.
As you say Scott better having Ronaldo in the team than not even if we dislike him/his attitude.
As far as Tevez goes he can get to fuck as far as i’m concerned.He’s dis-respected the club and mouthed off a little bit too much,although most of it could have been lost in translation we all got the gist of it.
He could turn out to be a mercenary if he goes to Liverpool or City and would show his contempt for us if he did.
If he ends up staying i’ll back him like all United players.
Chingar mate…..
you are talking a whole load of rubbish….
he made mistakes but I don’t think anyone doubts his ability or his loyalty anymore!!
i like ronaldo
-tevez has said he wants to go back to south america in about 4/5 years so resale value will be minimal.
-he’s a poor man’s rooney
- we have good young players coming through the ranks with different qualities. macheda with his finishing, welbeck with his strength and pace.
-SAF wants different attacking options. he would be signed already if he really wanted him.
maybe i’m wrong, but it would have been very naive of us to expect to negotiate with kia when he can get more £ elsewhere, which is the excuse that was given.
I guess SAF just had to balance the fact that we needed him to perform in the run up towards the end of the season, and how best to manage that.
MU22 – Whatever has gone on behind the scenes, the manager has said SEVERAL times that he wants to keep Tevez, so I’m not sure where you’ve got the idea Tevez has been in the dark.
as for ronaldo i hope his comment after the champs league final was a slip of the tongue after an emotional day. he is just that good and he would be sorely missed
Best post i’ve seen in a while! I can’t believe we gave in to Kia yesterday! My summer will not be a nice one if we waste 32 M on a player that we already have in JS. Park and W. Rooney..
If Tevez’s problem is not enough playing time he should not join the dippers. He won’t get more playing time there. I have no problem saying goodbye to Tevez as long as we get a replacement. He’s not that vital…
I hope Ronaldo stays with us for at least one season more. I reckon we will sell him next summer when he refuses to extend his contract. Then we should try to get shitload of money for him but I still have the feeling that Real might try to bargain it down. They’re probably the only team we can sell him to since Ronaldo really wants to go there. If Chelsea or City would bid on him we would reject it right away so there won’t be a bidding war for him. I can’t see any other teams affording Ronaldo. That’s why I wouldn’t be surprised if Ronaldo would leave for maybe 45-50 mills next summer instead of the talked-about 70-80mills.
I say get Aguero, class little player, similar style of play to Tevez, actually and still only 21. Would get a lot more value for money, definitely.
If he’s good enough for Maradona’s daughter, then surely he’s good enough for United…
Don’t Cry For Me, Argentina
Tevez is Heinze2. He has a choice. United and the “fans I love” or his pimp. He chose a pimp, named after a big bottle of fizzy champagne pop, apparently, and a shit tart’s car. So fuck off.
That self indulgent shit against City and his head shaking bollox was bad enough. But he chose the day we went 18 to be a big me me me shit. From last year’s self proclaimed slave to the real thing this year.
When we won the Champions League last year, Ronaldo pissed me off within 9 seconds, self indulgently throwing himself to the ground and his on-field interview. At least he waited til after the game (8 seconds, I know, but still). I promised never again. So, you can’t piss me off., Go to Liverpool, sulk during our award ceremony and put on your Argentina shirt in our changing room. Me, me, me….
At least Phil Chisnall was a Manc
Go to Anfield, you can write lists with Rafa . Just don’t treat us like donkeys. Your crocodile tears are, quite simply, an embarrassment. People who kiss the badge are often kissing where their wallet resides, most of the week. It would have been better in some ways if you had left after Stoke. For me, even if you stay, it will never be the same.
As you head to Anfield, I thought it pertinent to get some facts from Rafa. If this comes across as bitter, well, you started it and the last person who took the piss is a fifth rate left back in Madrid. 6-2 in their cup final. With no more medals. For years…in his case, forever.
Some facts:
1- that all action thing you do- the Scousers do it better (our Wayne and ‘your’? Stevie)
2- you have not used your left foot all season, save when you put it in your mouth this last month
3- in last year’s derby, you were outpaced by Richard Dunne who wasn’t even running after a pie truck
4- Rooney, Evra and even Rio get the United thing. You do not. Now, I don’t want you to.
5- When you signed for Corinthians, you wore a United shirt to the press conference. (Will you do the same at Anfield?)
6- If you have such fighting spirit, how come you are “owned” by a spiv?
7- your first touch is awful,for £32m. If it wasn’t, you would have scored against Arsenal, or got a penalty.
8- you will need padded shorts at Anfield, or you risk splinters from all that benchtime. Are you getting in cautious Manuel’s team ahead of Torres? No, thought not. Its one thing to be sub for Rooney, another for Dirk Kuyt.
9- I may be shit at football- a Hough End wannabe, but when I go to bed, no fucker owns my arse. That makes me better than you, at everything. Ever.
I wouldn’t have taken him to Rome. Let someone else get the medal, so he could get some prep in for City, should he go there instead.. Carlos could have sat at Stevie Me’s house and watched it, supporting his mate Messi and avoiding the break-ins. Get out of the way, if you can’t lend a hand. More street corner, than street fighter, I’m afraid. Not United at all.
Right, 18 it is, no one can ruin that. I’m back to my pint- you’re to the back of my mind.
Aguerro, anyone?
Please Carlito…
I want you to leave!
Believe me, that money would be better for us if we spend it in midfield!
Tevez is NOT worth 25 million pounds….
Hell, we can get a Veloso and a Gourcuff for that money…
So please carlito…
Leave and don’t let the door hit you on your arse..
i say we cash in on ronaldo while perez is on his galactico mission or whatever the f*ck he calls it. force them to pay some ludicrous sum of money and buy valencia/ribery to replace ronaldo and instead of permanently signing tevez, use the 25 mil for another striker… eto’o? benzema? villa? i’m tired of hearing ronaldo lie right to all our faces. he wants to leave, let him leave. no player is bigger than united- i will always be thankful of what he did for our club, but it’s time he goes. he will realize what a poor decision it was when he goes to madrid and wins shite. if we have player after player commenting on how united is the best club in the world, we don’t need the one that thinks he is above it. as for tevez, simply not worth it. as a business decision, which it ultimately is, 25 mil for a player of tevez’s quality is ridiculous, in my opinion.
FERGIE NEEDS TO RE-INVENT HIS TEAM THIS SEASON. I FEEL THAT GETTING RID OF RONALDO AND TEVEZ WON’T BE TOO BAD A THING IF QUALITY REPLACEMENTS LIKE BENZEMA,RIBERY,SILVA, VILLA AND VALENCIA CAN BE LURED TO OLD TRAFFORD.
THE WAY IN WHICH WE PLAY PRESENTLY IS BECOMING TOO PREDICTABLE.
TIME FOR A CHANGE,I SAY.
Jaz, have you understood the article mate? Scott is not talking about Ronaldo, but TEVEZ. Tevez who turned up in Argentina for a press conference wearing a Man United shirt, while playing for another club, and declaring HIS DREAM was to play for Man United! Now suddenly, he doesn’t get the starts he wanted, for the very good reasons Scott has stated above, and Tevez starts badmouthing the habd that feeds him, stuffing his fists with oodles of dosh. Also dissing SAF, who FOUGHT after the West Ham debacle, to sign Tevez and keep him in England, instead of his 3rd party ownership making him ineligible to play here. The tactics of these power driven agents/slave owners, is to accuse clubs of disrespecting their ‘big girls blouse of players’, poor little Mansion, and Bank Dosh laden ( and every whim attended too) little mites. Tevez and his slave owners are from the back streets of poverty ridden Argentina etc, and would recognise history and class of Man United if it bit them on the arse. To get away with all their shite behaviour though, with the full support of a good many of the United faithful, with the ‘Rent a mob’ attitude – well, you all decide for yourselves what you think. Me?, I call it bloody appalling. So Jaz, Tevez is at the club he said was his dream, so your comments don’t hold up against fact mate. If we were talking about Ronnie, they might well do!
Costas and daveob82: I’m pretty certain Ferdinand started the ban voluntarily in January due to the hopes of the appeal lightening it (though we all know the FA aren’t exactly going to do Man United any favours). As for his current loyalty I do not doubt it, it just pissed me off that after that ban – no matter if he was innocent or not it was still his fault – how hard is it to show up anyway? How many things does a footballer have to do? Ferdinand went shopping! – he did stall that contract after everyone in the club supported him. Was he even spotted having dinner with Pini Zahavi and Josè Mourinho in London? I do hope I am wrong on that one. And I will claim that Ferdinand didn’t turn world class until last season. Gimme a Wesly Brown or a Johnny Evans to partner Nemanja Vidic anyday.
Brown and Evans over Rio are you on drugs mate?
Rio is widely regarded as a cockney twat, but he is one of our most important players, and he has grown up a lot over the past few years.
MU22 – The terms of Tevez contract with United, were a TWO year loan, with an option to buy the player AT THE END OF THE LOAN TIME, if Man United felt he was what they wanted. So United were not obliged to tell ‘Little Slave’ boy anything until the end of his loan period. However, his slave masters used the very same tactics with Mascerano and L’fool, by mouthing off the whole feckin time to the press and TV, that he was going to sign for every Tom, Dick and Harry club, because L’fool were disrespecting him by not making a decision over his future, BEFORE they were obliged to make the decision. It worked for the dimwits at L’fool, I was hoping though Man United had more class than to be pressured into monkey performing with Jorabchian yanking the leash. If it hadn’t been for the ‘rent a mob’ mentality of some of the lacking in vision Tevez loving UNited fans, TEVEZ trust me was already GONE!
Stephen: One of our most important players who couldn’t even win an aerial battle with little Lionel Messi.
He was injured mate, and shouldn’t have been playing, of course he is one of our most important players he probably should be given the captaincy so the role isn’t so diluted.
Are you saying Ronnie wasn’t important last season because he couldn’t even score a penalty in the Champions league final last season?
Jesper Lemons, your post is sweet music to my ears mate – bloody class, and definately true. I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments. I hope I NEVER witness again at OT SAF being boo-ed over subbing players, and interrupted when addressing our crowd, on what should have been the greatest celebration speech, entitled ’18 and counting.’ SAF was drowned out and robbed of that moment. Hope the fans that did this are happy – NOT!
tevez was gone after he failed to bury those chances in the champs league final last season… thoughts? =]
Chingar, WTF mate, that player wasn’t anywhere near Messi, because HE WAS INJURED, and it was obvious, and the fact he cannot play for his country in the next few games PROVES he wasn’t fit for the CL final, and SAF should have realised and left him out. At least subbed him with Evans when it became obvious, which it did to many of us!
Was i pleased with Rio when he stalled his contract negotiations?Hell no.And it was one short year when we all got behind him.My memory could be wrong,but i thought that it was Ashley Cole spotted having dinner with Kenyon.Did Rio do the same thing?I truly can’t remember.All i will say about Rio circa 02-05 is that he was immature in a lot of ways.But i truly believe that he turned the corner in the last 4 years.The Rome final wasn’t his best day but it wasn’t for anyone else either.Rio’s significance to the team is the fact that we concede less goals with him in it.He will have the odd lapse of concentration,but overall ,and when he is fit, he is the best defender in the world for me.
Interesting question! But purely acedemic. There are lots of players even at Old Trafford I would not give the time of day to if they were not United players. The very nature of players that makes them able to deal with playing for the top clubs in the world makes a lot of them a pain in the ass on a personal basis. The answer in my opinion is that you support the club not the players! When you start to dislike the club and what it stands for it’s the time to worry.
What you do is get rid of Tevez and hold the vain hope we may somehow sign Benzema.
I’m glad you said that about the Tevez chants during Fergie’s speech. I hated that – I felt very uncomfortable, and I was actually embarrassed to be part of a crowd that would do such a thing. I like Tevez but have been annoyed with him recently for the same reasons as you. However, I’m in the minority because I really love Berbatov, so if I had to choose between them it would be no contest.
Scott
I won’t lie im concerned.
if we lose tevez and ronaldo, we are seriously losing two match winners. look over the last two years, arguably one of the brightest in our illustrious history. if you look at the games, how many matches were pulled out of the bag by these two alone?
i have mentioned it before but rooney needs to start playing up top a lot more, anderson needs to play further up the field and we need a defensive midfielder.
now ronaldo and tevez, take them out i think we’d need to buy huge this summer…..
Scott you bash Ronaldo more than a England Fanatical Fleet Street Journo
You seem intelligent, but at times you turn into the average Sun believing idiot you find in most pubs
Viva Ronaldooooooooo
chingar- not a little racist are we?
Jesper Lemons – Fuckin beltin post, funny as fuck. More of the same please mate.
i prefer one of them stays and not both to go somewhere else next season..
bossdem – How is chingar being racist?
Now that i think about it,Ronaldo must be the first UNited player that i dislike during his tenure here.I despised Heinze and Ince after they left.I see many UNited fans disliked Richardson.I wasn’t that fond of him but i hoped he would come good.I never realised that he thought to much of himself.I also didn’t like Alan Smith joining the club but he quickly won me over.In the end,i was sad to see him go.
i don’t like Franco FC, they’re fascists. I think the author should stop Ronaldo-bashing!!
For the people claiming I’m bashing Ronaldo in the post, clearly you’ve not actually read it.
There are 21 paragraphs in this article. 1 of them makes reference to my feelings on Ronaldo. My opinion isn’t going to change any time soon, so if you can’t even handle me referencing my opinion on him then it’s probably time to go and find a different United blog, because I’m getting so bored of the petty reaction every time I even mention it. Seriously, deal with it.
Any one of our players who says he would be happy to fuck off to Liverpool or Citeh should get the fuck out of our club as quick as possible as far as I’m concerned.
You aint all that special Carlos, wouldn’t even get into Liverpool’s team ahead of Kuyt based on last season’s form.
Scott with you on that one.
There are United fans who do and don’t have issues with Ronaldo.
I personally do have issues with him and find it hard to forgive his actions over that Summer. But recently I have been more happy about what he is saying and his maturity.
Still think he can improve his work ethic and decision making for the team but I am happy with the goals return we have had from him this season.
But that only says we need a striker like Benzema.
Totally agree with Scott, I say cash in on Ronaldo and let Tevez go to City. I don’t want him to go to Liverpool or City but prefer him to go City than rafas mob. Tevez really started annoying me when he started shaking his head when he got subbed off in both Arsenal games. He got taken off because he wasn’t having the best of games.
If Ronaldo and Tevez had sense then they would both commit themselves to United, but they obviously want to go teams that will win less so let them go. United will always be Kings of England and Barca will beat Real to all the Spanish titles, no matter how much Real spend this summer.
I would like us to get Benzema and Ribery but think they will be too overpriced, so think Huntelaar and Valencia would be more realistic. Huntelaar is a prolific goal scorer, which we will need if Ronaldo goes and Valencia is a very good out and out winger. There would be a lot of spare cash left too.
well done, scott!
@Chris Ant
I wouldn’t cash in on Ronaldo. We would be silly to let him go as he is in the top best 3 players on the planet. I think that is why SAF is alittle more tolerant of his behaviour. He will learn to love this club as time goes on.
I personally think that Ribery is too old and ugly for the prices that have been thrown around. There is only one player we require this Summer and that is Benzema. Work with Anderson and give him the creative role in midfield. Give Nani a chane on the wing. Let Tevez go as we now have Berbatov.
You are all being a little harsh on Tevez. Without Tevez there is no way we would have won the EPL or CL last year. Yes, he has spoken out against things he dislikes, but most individuals would do the exact same thing in his position. His performances have changed since last year because he is trying to be play the Hargreaves part up front. Is this his fault ? However, the tide has turned, for better or worse and he is leaving and that is a shame. Tevez tends to play better when there is a strong holding midfielder present, which is what we missed this campaign. Also when Hargreaves does comes back Berbatov is going the dazzle.
I love how you blame Tevez for the crowd chanting “sign him up”. It may be disrespectful to fergie, but Tevez has no control of that.
True Scott!!! Pepole need to get over there standing up for Ronaldo all the time…He is not interested in our club at all, in my opinion..
MJ – did I blame it on Tevez? Or did I just say that I hated it?
Ronnie has done the business for us the last two seasons. Those who do not credit SAF with pushing Ronnie to excellence, giving him aims to get more goals by playing the betting games with him, and impressing on the lad that all United’s greatest players have worked (long after every one else has gone) on perfecting their game, well enough said really.
Those taking issue with Scott because he has an opinion about Ronnie, well what he has said about Ronnie in the one brief part of his article, is the truth. So hysterical, ‘we must never criticise Ronnie fans’ need to get real. No player is exempt from criticism, and a LOT of Ronnie’s behaviour this season has been extremely questionable. If he wasn’t persistently coming up with the goods for us, then the mind boggles as to what some of us all would be saying about his pouting, ripping shirts out of backing staff’s hands, storming off the field when subbed, diving every time he is touched, and rolling all over the place, well embarrassing wouldn’t be an out of place comment would it. I love Ronnie, but I am not blind or insensitive to his behaviour, no matter how fabulous and exciting I find it to watch him in all his glory moments.
Perez is still mouthing off about signing Ronaldo. Can’t someone shoot that cunt dead.
Jesper Lemons — quality post
Done!
With respect what are you on about? He’s scored 18 goals, our top scorer!
@ kings – yeah i will (for a small fee of course, a tenner are a box of bud your choice) you have an address.
If we accept Real’s money for Ronaldo we would just be cutting off our nose to spite our face… Yes, he is annoying and occasionally embarassing, but fuck, if we want to win number 19 next year our chances are about 100X better with Ronaldo in the squad than without. I don’t care who we sign as replacements.
I want a midfield destroyer as an OH replacement and a quality left winger. Sorry Tosic, its sink or swim at the big clubs. Lets get Silva before Pool does. Please
sorry if i talk about different topic. Right now, everything is about Kaka but have any of you ever heard the name ‘Diego’? He plays similar style as Kaka and I think he’s younger too. And he’s Brazilian also and I think he can be better than anderson. His record with Werder Bremen is impressive with some stunning goals. Do you guys think we should bid for him? I think we can get him around 10-15 mil… (I think he’ll shine like Kaka if he plays for big club like united)
Agree about Ronnie Drew, all these people who think Ribery will replace him must be deluded. The little freak aint fit to lace Rons boots, not in the same league, simple as that. Hate his attitude at times like everyone but what a fuckin player. Could Ribery have got that goal against Porto, Arsenal at the Emirates, brought us back in to the Villa game, Spurs game , free kick against Citeh, the one against Blackburn from the ludicrous angle ?etc . In my opinion could he fuck.
Huntelaar- Prolific? He can’t even get in the fascists first eleven so what does that tell us?
Ronnie will NOT leave as I keep repeating, not this season anyway. If he does I will do what someone mentioned the other day and I will streak naked round Old Trafford at our first home game.
@haruglory_911 : that boy Diego has transferred to Juve. forget him
Quality post Mr. Lemons. Wholeheartedly agree. The ‘Im better than you because no pimp owns my arse’ is so True, and so funny!
It is very annoying. We want to spend 25 mln on him ? Didn’t we surrender ? That is very bad from one point of view. He might well consider himself a winner in that word battle, BUT.
Let’s think for a moment. We buy him for 25 mln. He comes to the training ground feeling like he is the master. The season starts and he sits on the bench every single match because Berba with Rooney play upfront. No ? Yes, and then his mood changes and he fucks off to City for 40 mln. “Nice” story. But the news that we want to pay that 25 mln is killing me. I don’t want him here anymore. But lets see what happens.
On Ronaldo. It is very dangerous to keep him for another year. There are 2 variants:
1. Sell him now for 75+ mln.
2. Tell him to sign a new contract and sell him a year later.
All of this doesn’t make me a happy person because i like the players who love the club, not the money, fame, trophies.
Those of you who say “Scott, grow up. Ron has won us trophies” don’t know what the values are about. As long as he gives everything on the field of play it’s okay. I perfectly understand the world we live in.
And one more thing to say. Don’t idolize Rooney for the time being. We don’t know what his reaction would have been if he was sitting on the bench. Yes, it’s unrealistic. I love him, but it is too early to call him a legend.
Friends aren’t friends before you share with them all of your misery.
But i am very possitive about Rooney, not so with some of the other players.
What a car crash this is. Scott’s perpetual and spectacularly dull grudge against Ronaldo (and now Tevez), combined with various commenters lining up to take ridiculous pot-shots at various members of the squad (the hilariously out-of-date dig at Rio for lapses of concentration being my particular favourite). Two more months of this, nightmare…
@NickOGS20:
You think anyone is having fun at taking shots at United players?I disagreed with the person who commented on Rio, but we can’t deny that there have been issues with both Ronaldo and Tevez.Ronaldo does flip flops about staying at the club every single day simply because he likes the headlines.Tevez acted like a drama queen in the last month because he wants to play all the time for Man United even if someone plays better than him.I regard both behaviors as disrespectful towards the club and the fans and that’s why i have issues with both of them.Sometimes loving something very much means speaking the truth when you have to.Of course,that’s my truth and no one else’s but i don’t see what’s the harm in voicing it here.
Nick – if it’s such a car crash, stop coming here and posting the same spectacularly boring shit. Being a proper fan doesn’t mean you have to stand by every single player no matter what they say or do. If you want to do that, cool, but stop coming on here with your patronising and belittling comments. I’d be more than happy for you to not return over the next two months, so do us both a favour eh?
“Carlos Tevez is expected to deliver his answer to Manchester United next week over whether he will be staying at Old Trafford.”
it’s awful. disgusting.
just for fun
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/choco_starfish/crisbaby.gif
Tevez can Fuck off. Ronaldo should stay for another year and then we should sell him off to madrid. Are all those rumours about hargreaves being injured until 2010 true? Cuz if they are we should sign a DM. Miguel Veloso would be a great signing. he would only cost 8-15 million.
We won’t know anything about Hargo until he starts training.
Even Steadman doesn’t know the exact date.
Lol,Corea nice picture.I am still laughing.Hargo will only know once he trains,but i think that he won’t take any chances.I see January of 2010 as his most possible return date.
@ costas
don’t make me cry. i am more possitive! September-October and at the end othe october he will be on in the lineup.
WE NEED YOU, HARGO! Get well soon!
Scott, while Ronaldo may be a single line you do take a dig at him. You say he hasn’t committed which you are using a single interview done in Portuguese that the Sun picked up on to write a story. The Suns translation of it has already been proven to be fairly shoddy to give them something to write about. He has said over and over again he is staying so how much more committal do you want
Scott were not gonna stop visiting your blog, it’s the best on the net apart from your stupendous agenda against our best player in the last 40 years.
Best player in the last 40 years?Giggs?Cantona?Van Nistelrooy?Rooney?Keane?Robson?
Wakey – more commital mate than when straight after the CL game, he is interviewed by the press, asking if he is staying with Man UNited, and everyone heard him say, I will see about, or decide my future after my holidays! A simple acknowledgement of yes I am staying at United would have sufficed. We had all this double tongued misleading bollox last summer. Only last week Ronnie was lauding his happiness at UNited to the media, and saying he didn’t care about Real Madrid. Yeah, well why say he’ll decide his future AFTER his hols, then?
Costas : Apart from RVN and Rooney those you listed are certainly bigger legends, but when it comes to who is the best footballer Ronaldo is the best since the Best.
Cantona > Giggs > Robson > Keane > Ronaldo > Rooney > Van Nistelrooy
(just my opinion)
corea – Harsh image but funny! When it comes to legends and better players it is very hard to say. In my opinion MY biggest LEGENDS since I have been a United fan since 81 are Robbo, Cantona, Keano, Scholes, Giggs and Neville. Best, Law and Charlton obviously but all before my time so not gonna include those three
When it comes to outright TALENT other than the King its got to be Ronnie. But then there is Scholes. Told you it was difficult to determine. Really hope that Rooney will go down as one of our best TALENTS (already is) and LEGENDS.
Oh Fabio,you mean talent wise.Hmm.Tough to say.Giggsy on his day was pretty awesome as well.You could be right though.Ronaldo does seem to be strong in every department.But even the best player can become a liability at times.Not saying that Ronaldo is one at the moment,but i would like him to realise what’s best for him.
And of course i forgot Scholes as one of the best players in the last 20 years.
can someone tell me something thats been troubling me about the tevez affair… utd already payed 10 mill for tevez on loan therefore if we want him we need to pay another 22 mill or thereabouts… yet if we dont buy him kia can then sell tevez for 32 mill making an extra 10 mill if he didnt sell him to united..keeping the original 10 mill we payed for the loan deal.. and tevez has been making trouble at united …. wonder who told him to do that… maybe the man who would be gaining an extra 10 mill if he didnt stay at united ..kia
His brilliant finishing? Exactly which Carlos Tevez were you watching this year?
It’s a toss up which of Rooney and Tevez is the most profligate in front of goal. I wish both of them could take a lesson or two from Berbatov in terms of taking that fraction of a second to think before firing away in their typical scatter-gun approach. They can both score some beautiful goals at times, but I couldn’t count the amount of times during the last two seasons when they’ve squandered – murdered would be a better word for it – golden opportunities presented to them. Carlito was also hampered this season by his desperation at times to prove his value to Fergie by firing away at goal when prudence demanded he pass to a better positioned team mate.
Edin Dzeko must be signed to replace Tevez!!!
scott- ur getting pissed off with people moaning about u moaning about ronaldo. fair enough but when u write a blog u got to expect everyone isnt gonna lick ur ass and say what a good post it is, even when they dont.
are u saying u only want people to comment if they agree with u?
if u keep slaging ronnie off people, “supporters” will moan back.
when u keep telling utd fans who have made ur blog so popular to do one, of fuck of somewhere else, u sound like a childish jumped up little prick.
App Liverpool will be credited with League 19 in the next 3 months. Toffs registered title which Liverpool won in 1891 no 1892… is this true.
Bossdem – I don’t want people to kiss my ass but I want them to have a bit of common sense. People know my opinion on Ronaldo and if they don’t want to hear about it, then nobody is making them come here and read it. I’m tired of defending this opinion every time I even reference it. It’s what I think, if you don’t agree, that is fine, but the same people keep coming on every post that talks about Ronaldo and telling me the exact same thing. If people were simply voicing a different opinion to me, that would be one thing, but to keep personally attacking me because of it is something else, as is telling me to stop voicing my opinion. If you don’t want to hear me voice my opinion on Ronaldo, then don’t come and read it. That is fairly simple, isn’t it?
If I sound like a childish, jumped up prick, then I cannot imagine what kindof moron would want to keep returning to read what I say. Are you a moron?
no scott, im not a moron, but u? im starting to wonder!
peolple, myself included come on here to share and discuss our club with other supporters. dont think ur blogs are so good that people are on here because of this. in fact i think ur doing too many and are running out of ideas, hence the quality of ur articles are becoming a bit erratic, like ur silly rants.
just one question. if u have the right to keep goin on an on about ronaldo why shouldnt evryone have the right to keep goin on and on about u, goin on and on and on about him. if ur so pissed off with peoples reaction to ur posts on ronnie, why not give it a rest for a bit and try and think of something worthwile to write about.
if ur struggling,get some more shit of rich the penguin cos he comes up with some good points! the only good blogs iv seen on here of late!
Relax Scott n Nick… We all love Utd and have differing views as to how it would be better. Lets learn accomodate eachothers views and be a little more tolerant here. Scott you’re running an incredible blog here but people will tend to disagree and they have every right to. Dont flare up on a disgruntled fan writing his heart out, however provocative that outburst may be…
Bossdem – I don’t personally attack people who love Ronaldo so I don’t expect to have people personally attack me for even referencing my opinion on him. So if people want to counter-argument what I have to say, then fine, but it is not OK to have a pop at me.
I am not going to change what I write or how I write for anybody. If you don’t like what I write or how I write then don’t come here. Feel free to respond to the points I make, but do not feel free to have a pop at me. You can get fucked if you think you can come on here calling me a jumped up prick. Think on.
i hate Berbatov
Well said Scott, I’m also sick of being shouted down by United fans who say you can’t be a proper fan if you attack Ronaldo and Tevez’s behaviour etc.. The point about Ronaldo and Tevez is that they aren’t Manchester United, we always hear about the great team spirit of the club and it does seem to exist but surely Ronaldo and Tevez’s actions must be to the detriment of that? I don’t want to drag up Barcelona because it was just one game but when you compare players like Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and Eto’s attitudes to Ronaldo’s and Tevez’s it is startling. I’d rather we sold Ronaldo and didn’t sign Tevez, retained some of our dignity, and sign some players with a better attitude. I don’t care how good Ronaldo is or that he is our most effective player because I’d rather come 2nd next year and not have to put up with another season of his childish whining on the pitch, mainly because it is bad for my health. This ‘only God knows’ stuff might be honest and realistic, but it is also disrespectful and near enough unprecedented. I can’t think of another player in world football who when asked if he wants to stay at a club he supposedly loves playing for replies with ‘only God knows’ and ‘we will see’, it speaks volumes about Ronaldo’s attitude.
I think we have to shift Tevez after his little outburst after the champs. league game because it’s just the icing on his little bitter cake, sick of him clapping us like he is Manchester United, sick of his first touch, sick of him charging around and I’m sick of being told he is a great player by morons.
I’ve never felt so disenchanted with players at United like I have about Tevez and Ronaldo and I’m almost starting to understand how you can become disaffected with a club like the FC United lot were but I’m nowhere near that yet. Get rid of Ronaldo and Tevez, I can’t bare watching these big time charlies playing for United. Cantona was arrogant but he loved United and everyone could see it, Ronaldo just loves himself. And before the retorts come about ‘every genius has a bad side’ bollocks, just look at Messi, and nearly every player who has gone before Ronaldo at United and practically every other top world footballer and you won’t find as big a muppet as our Ronaldo.
thanks again scott for reminding me that i dont have to come on here. it is this childish reaction which u keep coming out with that is so pathetic.
people wont call u a jumped up little prick if u dont act like one.
AH – “I hate Berbatov”
Yeah thanks for that contribution. Idiot.
It’s not childish, it’s just honest. I can’t understand the mentality of a person who would repeatedly come to a blog when they think the writer is a prick and pathetic.
Like I said, I didn’t sign up for personal insults. I signed up for football discussion, whether you agree with my opinion or not. You clearly can’t handle that without repeatedly insulting me, so check the rules of posting here and give me a shout when you feel mature enough and reasonable enough to follow them.
Good post Jake but Messi’s “penalty claim” in the final put our Ronnie to shame.
Messi even knows how to spit at players.
Scott and bossedom.Heed my plea,sheath your swords.Its not always good to have the last say in any argument.All we need is a better next season and no amount of hating and argument could effect that.
Rotegzy – it’s not about having the last word, it’s about having respect. This lad from Telford wouldn’t call me a stupid prick if he saw me down the pub, so I dunno where he gets off thinking he’s a big man on the internet. It’s pathetic.
Wouldn’t worry mate, it is your site you can post what you want, if people don’t like the article then why bother to make a comment, they need to get out more.
Just one question. Just recently I have noticed people calling “user names” by their real names. Now Scott knows someone is from Telford. How ?
King Eric – We’re all part of a secret club and you weren’t invited. Sorry.
Scott the Red – How fuckin dare you! No seriously mate, how do you know? Facebook or summat?
I’ve done my best to tune out all of the rubbish that gets circulated in the press, years of this nonsense had gotten me to the point where all I can say is “who ever’s in a red shirt is who I’ll support”. Ronaldo can stay or go, I’ve honestly stopped caring where he wants to be, and while his abilities are an asset to the club consistent petulance can affect morale. I hope Ronaldo is happy and wants to continue playing, if he doesn’t then ta ra and let’s get as much money for him as we can. Apparently Madrid’s got a lot of money to throw around for players, I just hope we milk them for all we can insetad of selling him on the cheap.
As for Tevez the positives of keeping him around started diminishing once he started going on ad nauseam about how he’s been treated, I grant him the benefit of the doubt because none of us know how he’s actually being treated. I doubt he’s been treated poorly as an individual though, I suspect he’s going on about his lack of playing time. Now it would be unfair not to sympathize with his desire to play, and he’s one who plays for his national team so even more reason to want to feature in every club match. This is why I think his staying is not going to work; he will want to play in as many matches possible but I doubt he’s going to start over Berbatov on a consistent basis. I still don’t think Berbatov’s settled in completely so that will likely mean less time for Tevez, and whether 25 million for a player to sit around being a tactical option doesn’t seem feasible. At this point I’d rather stick with Rooney and Berbatov and start grooming Welbeck and Macheda then deal with the drama of Tevez and whether he stays or goes.
roooney>ronaldo>cantona>van nistelrooy>keane>robson
my opinion