Aside from the panic that ensued when Wayne Rooney released his statement in October 2010 revealing that he wouldn’t be signing a contract extension, the overriding feeling for me was embarrassment. I knew he was an Everton fan, I knew all about that ‘once a blue, always a blue’ t-shirt, but when he repeatedly talked about dreaming of spending the rest of his playing days at United, I believed him. Foolishly, I thought he got it, he understood what it meant to play at Old Trafford, and whilst he would never be a fan like us, he genuinely seemed to love the club.
“I am happy here and I’d sign a new contract at any time,” he said in October 2009. “I want to stay at this club for the rest of my career. I will sign an extension any time the club wants me to.”
No contract extension was ever signed though and with time running out on his current deal we were now under pressure to sell him. We were 3rd in the table at the time, 5 points behind Chelsea, and our most important player was heading for the exit.
“I met with David Gill last week and he did not give me any of the assurances I was seeking about the future squad,” said Rooney in his statement. “I then told him that I would not be signing a new contract. My agent and I have had a number of meetings with the club about a new contract. During those meetings in August I asked for assurances about the continued ability of the club to attract the top players in the world. For me it’s all about winning trophies – as the club has always done under Sir Alex. Because of that I think the questions I was asking were justified.”
News quickly circulated that Rooney had been talking to Manchester City since the summer and they were prepared to make him far and away the best paid player in the country. City were under the impression that it was more or less a done deal, thanks to the Paul Stretford-Brian Marwood connection, with them seeing him as the “perfect signing”, strengthening themselves and weakening their opponents.
A couple of days later Rooney changed his mind and agreed a new five-year deal with the club. Some more cynical people would suggest the entire stunt was a way of getting more money out of the club but I just can’t see it. If he just wanted more money and didn’t want to leave, the Rooney camp wouldn’t have tried to fabricate a rift between the player and the manager in the press. It came from Ferguson’s claim that Rooney was struggling with an ankle injury ahead of a game for England.
“I’ve had no ankle problem all season,” he claimed. When asked as to why Ferguson had said he had an injury, Rooney replied: “I don’t know.”
Three weeks earlier Rooney was subbed off after an hour played at the Reebok stadium and sat with the subs with ice on his ankle, before missing the next two games against Valencia and Sunderland. We’d all seen it. This was just one of the many mistakes Rooney’s people made when trying to manoeuvre him away from the club.
Maybe the decision to sign an extension came from a genuine change of heart, but more likely he felt overwhelming pressure from the reaction of the press and fans. His agent had obviously convinced Rooney that if they pretended he had fallen out with the manager, like David Beckham and Ruud van Nistelrooy, everyone would understand why he swapped United for City. They hadn’t accounted for Ferguson playing a blinder in the press conference though, talking about the great history of the club and how they would have done anything for Rooney to support him, as well as alluding to the fact he had been talking to another club behind our back. The reaction to Rooney’s statement from the press was one of disbelief, mocking Rooney’s claims that he wanted to move on because trophies were the priority for him. If there was any club that won a trophy more often than not, it was Manchester United.
Rooney ended the season by lifting the Premier League trophy, crowning United the most successful team in English history, after his penalty kick at Ewood Park confirmed we were champions for a record breaking 19th time. He also scored a goal in the European Cup final against Barcelona.
“I made a mistake,” he admitted afterwards. “When I look back at it now, I’ll say it again, how wrong was I? I’m willing to admit that. I’ve apologised and ever since then I have wanted to try to prove myself again to the fans. I feel I am doing that now.”
So, we’ve all moved on since then. I can’t speak on behalf of all reds but I know for me that my feelings on Rooney are different these days. He’s a quality player, I’d argue he is our most important, and I hope he stays at the club for as long as he’s good enough. When Rooney plays well, we tend to play well, and there can be no denying he’s as determined as any player to win. But he makes me cringe when he kisses our badge, as if he believes he can con us in to thinking it means something again.
What is interesting about Rooney’s statement in October 2010 is that people always refer to him claiming that we didn’t match his ‘ambition’. Whilst that is essentially what he was saying, he never actually used that word, but instead pointed to a lack of quality signings which would have an impact on how many trophies he would win.
We’ve gone on to sign the likes of Robin van Persie, Shinji Kagawa, David de Gea, Ashley Young and Phil Jones, amongst others, and are looking in a great position to win the league this season. After missing out on the title on goal difference last season, we might be matching Rooney’s ‘ambition’ again this year. But if we are to win the title, how much credit will Rooney take?
There’s no denying that Van Persie is our star man now with him scoring for fun since making the move from Arsenal. He’s scored the winning goal against City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, and is the most exciting player we’ve seen for years. Cristiano Ronaldo blew us away and Eric Cantona was an inspiration but there’s something of both these players in Van Persie, with his ability to score so regularly and in such a graceful manner winning the fans over instantly. It’s his name that gets the loudest cheer now when the teamsheet is read out at the beginning of the game and his name we sing over and over again, two things Rooney could claim for himself before the Dutchman joined the club.
Whilst Van Persie has been flying high, Rooney has struggled for form this season, with a surprisingly low goal tally. More recently he has gone through a better patch and has crept in to the top ten scorers in the league, but still has only 14 goals in all competitions. It’s a far cry from the 25 goals he’d managed by March 8th last year.
Rooney’s performances haven’t drawn much attention from the press as he’s still been contributing, with nobody assisting more goals in the league than him this season, and when you’re 12 points clear, there’s no need to make a song and dance about one player’s form. However, in the fanzines and amongst fans there have been rumours for months that he is off sooner rather than later.
After going out with Evans and Gibson over Christmas last season, Rooney was dropped from the team that lost to Blackburn at Old Trafford. Had we picked up a point that day we’d have won the league. A couple of weeks later he scored twice against City in the Cup (and kissed our badge), in a run that saw him score 18 goals in 17 games. There was no time for Fergie to hold a grudge when Rooney was scoring goals that could have won us the league. But it’s hard to imagine that Ferguson had forgotten how Rooney had embarrassed the club.
You see, when Rooney was blaming the future squad for his reason for wanting off, he was more than likely talking about bolstering the central midfield, getting some quality on the wings after Ronaldo’s departure and singling out a top class replacement for Van der Sar. It probably never even crossed his mind that we’d sign one of the best players in England and in Germany, in Van Persie and Kagawa, and that he would have to fight for his place in the team. Post-Ronaldo, Rooney was meant to be our superstar, and as much as he wanted to win trophies, it’s unlikely he was imagining that we’d bring in a better striker than him. Whilst it’s clear Rooney’s contribution to the team is about more than goals, it’s hard to deny that Van Persie is a better footballer than him.
Still, Rooney had a chance to show the boss that he was up for it this season and that the signing of Van Persie would only serve to motivate him to work harder. It didn’t quite work out that way though, with Rooney returning from the pre-season overweight and unfit. It was painful watching him chug around the pitch at Goodison Park, out of breath and out of shape. Stories suggest that Ferguson was less than impressed and has had enough of Rooney always returning from International tournaments not at his best.
Rooney was left out of Real Madrid team, but are we to believe this is because of some fall out with the manager, because of what happened in October 2010, last Christmas and at Goodison Park? Personally, I can’t see it. Ferguson wants to win the European Cup and he’s not going to cut off his nose to spite his face. Simply put, Rooney isn’t playing very well and he didn’t do enough at the Bernabeu. Nani got the assist at Old Trafford, Giggs and Welbeck were our best players, and when Rooney came on he didn’t do an awful lot. Is there anyone arguing that dropping Rooney was the wrong decision? Without wanting to sound like Roy Hodgson, making lame excuses for not picking players who deserve to be played, Rooney was almost certainly left out for footballing reasons and if not for a bent Turkish referee, we would be in the quarter-finals of the Champions League, without Rooney’s help.
Still, after months of rumours the papers exploded when Rooney was dropped, seeing this as the perfect excuse to write about all the whispers they’d heard about the likelihood he was on his way out. It would be naive to believe the stories came from nowhere, that the only thing the journos had to base it on was his omission from the team, but just because the manager and Rooney aren’t best mates, it doesn’t mean he’s off. If his reaction to us taking the lead against Real Madrid is anything to go by, he’s hardly someone who is unhappy to be here. Likewise, the probability that Rooney was left out for footballing reasons doesn’t mean there’s no truth in the stories that he could leave in the summer.
Ferguson has obviously denied the stories today, claiming that Rooney will certainly be a United player next season, but what else would you expect him to say? If the manager genuinely planned to get rid of Rooney in the summer, would you expect to sit down to face the press today and say “you got me, you’re right, I’m getting rid of him”?
What is apparent now though is, which is different to the situation in 2010, it is the club that holds all the cards, whereas a few years back Rooney was in an incredibly powerful position. If Rooney leaves now it’s because the club has allowed it, just as it did Beckham, Van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo before him, whilst in 2010, he would have left the club with no choice but to sell him. Him joining City would have been absolutely devastating but reports this week suggest City aren’t sniffing around this time. Rooney was just 24-years-old when he released his statement about wanting out and would have been a huge coup for them then. Now, the player they’d want is Van Persie, and he’s already turned them down to play for us.
It’s easy to be reactionary now though, be bullish about it, say we don’t need him, but that’s daft. There have been plenty of strong links with 24-year-old Robert Lewandowski, who’s on 23 goals in 33 games this season for Borussia Dortmund, 30 in 47 last season, and if the manager reckons he’s a better option than Rooney, then so be it. But I don’t think we should let a few months of sub-standard performances, and possibly the realisation that he hasn’t fulfilled his potential in the way we thought he might, cloud our judgement. Rooney has a lot to offer this football club and when he’s on the top of his game it’s almost impossible to stop United. He makes things happen, he works his bollocks off and he’s a winner. One long-term injury to Van Persie, who spent all his seasons before us with the exception of one with lengthy spells out, and we’d be desperate for him to be playing for us, wondering how we could have ever been open to him leaving.
But the fact that plenty of fans are not really at all anxious about the prospect of Rooney leaving speaks volumes of how quickly his status within our squad has changed. A bigger issue is likely to be where he would go after United with, as Michael Owen rightly pointed out, so few clubs being able to match his wage demands (and ambition!). He tipped PSG as the favourite but with the 75% tax rates in France they’d have to pay him something like £20m a year to match what he’s on now. The Italian clubs won’t be able to afford him and you have to wonder whether the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona would be keen on a player that United didn’t need or want. Chelsea? Bayern Munich? He’s quickly running out of options.
Two and a half years ago he would have likely felt on top of the world, about to hit the peak of his career, with him getting his pick of clubs and salary. He got the most successful manager in the country to almost grovel on TV, expressing his confusion and disappointment with Rooney’s actions. He got a pay rise after his disloyalty and was welcomed back by the fans who were far too relieved that he didn’t leave us for City to bother with giving him stick every week. But now what does he have? Maybe he’ll realise how limited his choices are and show that the manager would be crazy to sell him, regardless of any personal differences. Or maybe he’ll respond to the challenge like he did in the summer, put on a load of weight, and make it easy for the manager to pick other strikers ahead of him.
But if there is a moral to this, it’s be careful what you wish for. The cow in the other field really isn’t what it’s cracked up to be, eh Wazza.
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I think the whole saga is being blown out of proportion, but heck what do I know, maybe that’s how it is with high profile stars..
In the case of Rooney being sold, I’d really like a Rooney + £15m swap with Cristiano Ronaldo..
In the hypothetical case that Rooney was sold*
At least, he didn’t seem to have sulked too much after being dropped from the starting lineup.
Thats exactly what i make off them. They are stories. Nothing else. Until i hear something official i dont believe it.
Good read Scott and I agree. Don’t want him to leave, he’s quality, but it doesn’t scare me like it did in 2010.
But still really want him to stay!
He won’t end his career at Old Trafford, but I don’t think it’s the right time to let him go either. Over the season I kept hearing how Rooney wasn’t needed anymore since we had RVP, but the last couple of months shot down that overly simplistic logic. One might even argue that Rooney should have started ahead of Van Persie against Real taking into account both guys’ recent form. So he’s still vital to this team.
That being said, there is a factor that could come into play. His contract this summer will be in the same state it was during ambition gate: He will have 2 years left on it. If the club wants to keep him around, then they’ll have to negotiate an extension as soon as possible. If not, I’m afraid this summer is the best opportunity to sell him.
This is all concocted stories ….
“Mountains out of mole hills” is an expression that comes to mind.
Won’t have a clue what is the truth of it until the summer and really doubt anything will come of it.
If not PSG, then we could well be heading for a swap between Rooney and Ronaldo, with some cash involved, then spend more on another quality player to fill in the attack/midfield
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I think Scott summed it up pretty perfectly. Whilst we do not want him to go, it wouldn’t bother us as much if he did. And it seems like there are more fans who are more fond of Ronaldo than Rooney, not just because of ability, but perhaps because Ronaldo had always been truthful about what he wanted, whereas Rooney, for one reason or another, betrayed our trust. And they say, trust is something, once broken, its almost impossible to fix.
How the tables have turned. Now it is not that United has to show ambition, it is Rooney that must show us that we need his services
Why should he sulk about not playing Tuesday?His case for inclusion was being made for him on the pitch,likewise Kagawa and Evans.And it does scare me.
Ferguson: Rooney will be a United player next season
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2013/Mar/sir-alex-ferguson-sets-record-straight-regarding-wayne-rooney.aspx
Sir Alex Ferguson started the press conference in style: “The Wayne Rooney issue first? Or do you want to talk sense?”
a thousand million muppets flap for days then a few words from the man SAF and its quashed
Sir Alex has banned two newspapers from press conferences over false Rooney accusations, won’t be back until they apologies
Hahaha, hear is my post from before the presser:
MARCH 8, 2013 AT 10:03
FletchTHEMAN says:
Morning Reds. Can’t wait for Fergies Press conference. Could be better than the game. And it was a cracking game.
Am expecting at least 3 yellow cards and a red.
Reds get banned from the press room for at least a year innit?
Seriously the British press are an embarrassment to that country. There is only maybe TWO credible news sources in Britain the rest are absolute nonsense. Even the Air-headed American tabloids are better. These people just LITERALLY make up stories and tag them as exclusive and a lot of the british sheeple just go along with it and don’t even complain. Just embarrassing that they have been allowed to print the rubbish they have printed. There was NEVER an issue with Rooney. Rooney did NOT sulk about not being played, Rooney is NOT on 300k a week, Rooney did NOT meet with Maradona to negotiate ANYTHING concerning city (*facepalm*). Any football fan with half a brain would know that it was clearly tactical. Even my 10 year old brother could see that. Just disgraceful.
The bigger question is what’s the deal with Chica ?
He hasn’t featured at all in the past few matches. I thought he would be starting or some game time against Norwich, But that didn’t happen.
I’ve got a feeling Chica will be leaving in the summer. He will be 25 and no longer some young player in need of experience.
People always say that Rooney hasn’t fulfilled his potential. Bollcoks to that. He’s been in the premiership for 10 years and has done what he has done. Taking into account his ability, attitude, teammates, manager etc he couldn’t have done any better so far. Everything he’s acheived has been with the best support behind him in every sense and he’s done well. Ok he’s not the white pele or the english maradona and maybe people expected more but he is not a one man show and never has been either for United or for England. Why not? because he isn’t good enough to be a one man show.
Sir alex with another classic, this time on his old buddy Benitez: “I’m not going to kick anyone when they’re lying down. It’s not my style” kikiki
Isn’t that just plain beautiful?!I mean what a start of press conference after Tuesday horror.its down to Fergie’s wittiness to start with such positive news that Rooney will stay.best manager in the whole universe.
Love Sir Alex’s words. I don’t get the hooha. Exaggerated rubbish. Tactical move, if he has to be dropped he has to. He’s not untouchable. I didn’t even think anything about this. Non-issue.
Let’s have a wonderful performance on Sunday.
Fuck Ronaldo he wanted to go he will not come back ,we have Wayne Rooney who has helped us win trophies and he is hear for next season.When he ask the questions , they where the same one we were all asking and thanks to Sir Alex we are back in the hunt . All this shit is stired up to try and derail us
dannysoya…
Got that right. Even the Guardian (3rd largest serious source?) is so completely ABU that you can hardly trust them to do right thing where United are concerned.
Problem is the market is in Birmingham and London. Those paying customers drive an element of the news cycle and frankly don’t want to be reading positive stuff about United 24-7.
That’s why we here so much rubbish about the london teams as well, even when they deserve an exposé.
Anyway, we move on!
If rooney’s having a poor season he has no one to blame only himself, he laid the poor foundation by the way he came back at the start of the season and I thought at the time it was very disrepectful to his team mates, the club and fans who pay the hard money. Being top earner I wondered at the time was he thinking ” oh I can come back 80% and still get my game” and maybe too coz he bagged 34 goals last season he became complacent
And it was even more frustrating knowing that he knew we could have lost the title coz of the blackburn game and so should realize more than ever how important each game is.
Anyway I can’t imagine the likes of Danny or Hernandez ever being so complacent.
So whether the stories are just that or not at least the realization has come for wayne that he can not for one moment take his place at united for granted ever again, and that can only be a good thing for him and the rest of the squad to know they must apply themselves 100% if they want to be a part of this great club.
Sir Alex really did give a smashing presser. Just what the Dx ordered.
Some excerpts here:
http://www.manutd.com/en/Fanzone/News-And-Blogs/2013/Mar/today-at-old-trafford-manchester-united-blog.aspx
All of a sudden a bright mood in the Room, fucking classic
If you look back at the way he left the dugout you would think the presser would get overhitted but the boss is bringing serenity back into our lives.
Surely the happenings will galvanise Rooney, I’m sure he’ll respond with a bang come sunday afternoon.
Come on wazza, prove us wrong!!!!
‘What To Make Of The Rooney Exit Stories’ ?
nothing, its all media gibberish to keep people reading or rather, clicking
mondays headline is news, tuesdays is news that mondays was wrong
Replay of the Managers news conference on now:
http://nutjob.eu/njtvx1.html
“Giggs won’t be available for Sunday. he was the best player on the pitch last Tuesday, so he will be rested.phil Jones won’t be ready too for Sunday but he will be available next week”Fergie.
Very soothing press conference.
Whether he goes this summer or not, I’m not having this “poor season” rubbish. He’s struggled with fitness yes, and it means he hasn’t hit the heights he can – but in terms of goals and assists he has been HUGE for us this year. Put in some great big game displays against the likes of Arsenal and Man City as well earlier in the season.
Granted RVP has put him in the shade but don’t for one second underestimate how vital Rooney’s been.
Fergie would just refuse to talk about it if there was any truth to it so we should all just forget it and hope the lad hits top form for rest of season. FUCK THESE TEN BOB HACKS AND THE WANKERS ON TALK SHITE.
Only stories guys, when you lead with 12 points and this is the first game where Rooney hasn’t started without being injured or coming from injury, so it’s stupid news.
fLook at this thumbnail that Scott has put it, http://24.media.tumblr.com/6e722d6fad23f01769fb0daf899bd0d6/tumblr_mjadulKr181r7jzw9o2_500.gif
Does that guy look like he’s going? I highly doubt it, the guy is our talisman, 11 goals in his last 13, not a bad tally, not to mention his assists.
I have forgiven Rooney 99% and will never forget for 1%.
ROONEY ROONEY ROONEy
my cow is the best..
ValenciasLeftFoot @ 11:14: “The bigger question is what’s the deal with Chica ?”
I’m in total agreement with your comment – this is the dilemma that SAF faces: he’s got four guys who could all be lead-the-line strikers but has largely penned-in RVP as first-choice and rotates the other three in a variety of different roles/positions/match-ups.
With DannyTheLad and TheWayneBoy, this “surplus” isn’t such a big issue since they can – and do – play the game in such a variety of ways that they can be mixed-and-matched, as it were. But Chicharito plays the game one way – he’s UTD’s Inzaghi, the fox-in-the-box. He was the fastest player in the previous world cup and, as we all know, speed kills. At the very least, his presence creates anxiety among central defenders (and forces central midfielders to be aware of what’s happening behind their line. Why he wasn’t brought on in the second-leg on Tuesday night – and left there when AshleyBloodyYoung was brought on – astounded me and my mates, watching with me.
Furthermore, whether or not TheWayneBoy did much on Tuesday, it was clear that RVP wasn’t in peak form – and hasn’t been for a while. RVP needs a rest – to clear his mind AND to heal his body from all the little niggles that have accumulated over the past six months. After Sunday’s FA Cup match with TheRentBoyz, UTD have a pretty open (and easy) schedule for the following fortnight (Reading and Sunderland before the M/C derby on April 6th) so it would behoove all concerned to give RVP some time in the sunshine to recharge his battery.
What about TheWayneBoy ? The key point is the one that LittleMikeyOwen made – he’s pretty much priced out of the market for other teams. My own feeling is that next year we’ll see him transitioned into TheScholesRole. TheGingerNinja seems to be a spent-force now, sad as that is to write. Rooney has all the attributes – power, energy, long-range passing, truculence, and so on – to become a first-rate partner to MC16 (and his successor, whoever he might be). He might not have the experience in that role of YoungTom or Anderson but he’s simply a better footballer than Cleverley and – much as I hate to acknowledge it – Anderson just isn’t reliable. Putting Rooney in midfield will not only extend his career but also make better use of his talents as he learns to dovetail his game with MC16 and KagawaBunga.
That’s right, I see SAF moving away from his former-reliance on wingers and dealing with the “problem” in midfield with some variant of a three-man midfield – call it 4-3-3 or 4-5-1, or whatever. This might not be so likely if DarrenFletcherinho hadn’t been struck down with a debilitating illness from which he will never recover his former outstanding strength and energy. I’ve written before that I don’t see anyone who can play the role of ManchesterTerrier like Fletcherinho so, once again, it won’t be a matter of “replacing” a star player but, rather, of re-inventing the team and re-stocking the personnel to play differently.
The foregoing “analysis” (maybe, “reflections”) would all go out the window if SAF is able to finagle a deal for CR7. There’s no doubting Fergy’s intense admiration for Ronaldo and, if it were possible, he’d move heaven-and-earth (or maybe just DDG and Chicharito !) if the stars aligned in such a way that it was possible to bring TheOneTrickPony back to OT. SAF won’t be manager @ MUFC forever – sacrilegious as that is – and he’d love it, love it, love it to go out on a high.
Knocking LiverPoo off their CL perch. Getting CR7 into UTD’s first-team would go a long way to providing SAF with just the booster-rocket that would send the WilyOldFootieKnight into orbit. He’s achieved everything in the domestic game but if he’s concerned about his “legacy” then his relative failures in the CL must surely rankle him. I reckon he’d move heaven-and-earth to get a better chance of success in reaching FIVE – or even SIX – CL titles.
STR you covered all the bases and did it quite well. We have some mileage to get out of
Rooney still. We really need him to focus and commit to staying in fighting shape.
That will guarantee us silverware.
Scott – this is one of the BEST articles you have ever written. Perfectly put you could frame it.
Fuk Rooney, he has never respected or loved United he is a selfish whore who uses whores and who never appreciated what the Club gave him, who lied, who tried to publicly humiliate us and make a false account of what happened and now I am reminded of what he did I am more than happy for his ass to go and that Ledanowski – Robert, whatever to come in. I WANT REVENGE!!!!!
Also Scott, I think it’s not just RVP, Pea, Kagwa and Welbeck have also made fans believe we have goal scoring alternatives, others can step up, he can F off. Sorry, but he is a USER and a LIAR. No one else who left lied and made up things like this, Tevez and Hargreaves only talked shit when they left, this bitch does it while he is here.
Rooney potential – grossly overestimated, he was never on the level of the best in the world.
I HATE HIM NOW.
Can’t believe people bought into this shit for fuck sake, and its ‘all well he can go, we won’t miss him’, just coz its Rooney, try having a bit of fucking faith in the lad, yeah he fucked up a while back but it doesn’t mean we should jump on the newspapers bandwagon. On Tuesday after the match I watched the highlights show on ITV and Andy Townsend said ‘you know what will happen now, all the papers will start with the he’s fell out with SAF and is leaving’ if he could see it fucking coming why the fuck can’t some of the SO CALLED FANS!! Your a fucking disgrace and sound like fucking bitters!! You should all fuck off and support some fucking mercenary club!!
Fucking Lewandowski isn’t in the same league as Rooney, nowhere near. One in two goal ratio at United, better infact. Simple truth is United are a better side with a fit Rooney in it.
I will put it that way.
Rooney is our best player. He is our most paid player. And because of it you are paying that kind of attention to him, Scott.
If we are going to pay that much of attention to every single one of us we would end up having an opinion that we aren’t that perfect you know.
Rooney worked his socks off to make CriRo our star performer, he works his socks off every single game for us. You know, we people aren’t perfect. There is no need pointing to every single fact but of course we are here to discuss and to analise. So we are all entitled to it. But in my place we have a saying: “when you look at the trees you won’t be able to see the forest”
But of course we live in a cruel and cinical world so no wonder.
Rooney is NOT our best player. We got here in the league without him.
Best players this season:
Rafael, Carrick, Giggs, RVP.
I used to defend Rooney up to today when I read this and fully grasp what he did, how can people slag off tevez and defend Rooney? Tevez gave his all too you know. Rooney tried to make SAF look like a liar and humiliate and denigrate our Club in the world, he said he is only here for trophies – FCK OFF!!!!
RVP came here for history and respect not just money and trophy chances, City have trophies too.
Rooney can go, he used us, we used hi, he will never be a legend, he can go, we have other options now, he is not our saviour.
Oh cmon, if you judge people solelyon the things they say or tabloids print..
Anyway. i love the player Wayne Rooney and i really hope he stays.
Not a legend ? I don’t fucking care. This world is not about the things we call people.
Heroes die young, we forget people who die in an instant.
Show must go on (c)
@ Corea – he said it out of his mouth – it’s a quote, I am sure Scott got it right. I did not know he tried to make SAF look like a LIAR, Son of a Bitch.
@ Corea – shows end – legends live for ever, they inspire and drive the emotion, we are not computers that live of statistics, Hercules, Mohamed Ali, the United trinity, teh Busby Babes, SAF, Giggsy, they will stand the test of time, our love, out team, our standards, our pride. It matters.
cut him a fcking break… and stop this stupid tongue in cheek slander… he deserves much more scott…
@ NBI – fucking Giggs one of our best players this season!! You are a fucking joker!! He’s played better the last month and half coz he hasn’t been played down the middle and was superb against the virus but don’t give me the ‘best this season’ bollocks coz that is fucking bullshit!! If you think that then you are sadly lying to yourself.
from the moment Roo was left out of the squad i pointed out in my post that we would see these headlines the next day. one has to love the media, so transparent at times
If rooney was selfish he would of scored the hatrick rather than passing the ball to kagawa twice . He is a team player he does every thing not like RVP which only attacks . Rooney cares about the yeam !
Interesting read.. Wouldnt go as far to say Van Persie is the better player of the 2. At the moment on their day are world beaters but worryingly is that V Persie is going quiet at a crucial point in the season. That is why we have a squad and the likes of wazza rvp and chicco can chip in with goals.
I dont and hope its not the end of Wazza and regardless of the squad and tactics doing well, personally I would have started him. I think in big games you start with your best team, he had played quite well against Norwich and Im sure would have carried on. Maybe that way we could have started like we did against Bayern a few years ago and blow them away in the 1st half rather than just do enough tactics which gives the opposition too much respect and is risky.
Having said that.. Hindsight is a great thing and SAF is entitled to do what he wants.
I guess the main point is that in 2008 we had a formidable, potent squad with Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney etc. This team should have and could have gone from strength to strength.. Instead was dismantled. Lets not do the same.. We’re Man Utd and we should always be building our squad not knocking it down.
Hoping for a hatrick from Wazza tomorrow!!
GGMU!!
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/633780252?-19390:5491
Some insight from Fergie on Wayne Rooney.
interesting read and might help us get a clearer pictire.
Viva Wayne Rooney!