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Where to put your money vs Spurs

United play host to Spurs this weekend and look worthy favourites at 1.57  with bet365 and Betfred to bag another three points.

Sir Alex Ferguson’s side have a terrific record against the Londoners and  come into the game unbeaten in their last 6 matches in all competitions despite  not playing at their best.

They have won 17 and lost none of their last 22 Premier League games  against Tottenham, and the Lilywhites have managed to score eight goals in 20  Premier League visits to Old Trafford.

The last player to score a winning goal for them in Manchester was actually  Gary Lineker in December 1989, which highlights the dominance that the Red  Devils have had over their rivals for over two decades.

Wayne Rooney, who had a run out against Newcastle in their capital One Cup  win in midweek, has scored seven goals in his last eight Premier League  appearances against Spurs and five in the last five.

That makes him of obvious interest in the first goalscorer market at 5.5  with Boylesports,  but my money is going to be going on Robin van Persie who was rested in midweek  and has made a great start to his career as a United player.

The Dutchman has scored five goals in his last six Premier League home  games against Spurs, and can be backed at huge looking 5 with Paddy  Power to bag the opener.

I think he can fire United to a comfortable victory and like the look of a  3-1 or 4-1 success for United.

Those outcomes have been priced up at 12 and 21 respectively by bet365.






 

125 Comments

  1. FletchTHEMAN says:

    We have the best record against Spurs at OT of any of the established EPL teams, so hope we have good luck. Still Defo and their wingers can be a handfull.

    Only 3 points will do lads. Get in :twisted:

    PS Welcome back admin, you old tosser!

  2. Marq says:

    Defoe is in good form, have to be wary and stop any shots from him.

    Evra vs Lennon, well……

  3. Prashant says:

    We will prevail i’m positive though i think this thread has now become the wild card in United winning.AVB is coming with a vengeance,apparently he is coming at old trafford all guns blazing with one thing in mind,attack,attack,attack.Im glad he is already selling his game plan to the papers and allowing Fergie to sort out his troops to counter his ammo.

  4. jim says:

    as a apurs fan this is nailed on united win. Even when we play well at your place we dont win ( thinking Mendes ‘goal’ and nani picking the ball up a few seasons ago before scoring ).
    Sadly this is an irrelevant game, most spurs fans will write this off and watch the ryder cup instead. Bit pointess really but hey thats the premier league for you !!

  5. Redbilly says:

    Statistically a win. But we can take nothing for granted. Hope the lads play an entertaining winning game .

  6. Spursfan101 says:

    As a spurs fan I really want a win at OT, but its never going to happen. Best we can hope for is a good game and no dodgy referee decisions! 3-1 Man U…

  7. Proverb says:

    Just play tom and jerry, the last time we played them we won 3-1 if memory still serves me well, and it was a great end to end encounter

    That day wee tomas ran the midfield and almost scored one wonderful goal like the one he did on wednesday but the one I’m talking about was a long range carling strike which friedel did amazingly to push it around the left post.

    The other was a quite unconvincing one but we came on top winning it, with nani scoring one unusually controversial goal.

    I fucking enjoy spurs games, hopefully we can stuff them at old trafford tomorrow

  8. Proverb says:

    Sir Alex Ferguson brands Terry’s four-game ban as ‘lenient’ http://bit.ly/TLRwMu

  9. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Staying deliciously off topic:

    Check out Demi Mitchell, the new Georgie Best!
    http://beautifullyred.co.uk/2012/09/28/gif-united-youngster-demi-mitchell-scores-wonder-goal-for-england-u16s/

  10. Pal Ghai says:

    Spurs will be a threat especially with wing play.In Bale and Lennon,they’ve got two speedy wingers albeit one has a very poor end product.I just hope Rafa is fit and raring to go.He is the only fullback ive seen who puts the fear of God in Bale.Evra should be wary with Lennon as he has been providing Defoe and sigurdsson with poor crosses but as we know every player raises their game when United are the opponents.
    Midfield is where the real battle lies.I hope Sir Alex has a plan to mitigate the influence that Dembele had against us while playing for Fulham.I would have Ando to provide us with that physical strength against him.As for Sandro,he’s a poor man’s Carrick, so not overly concerned as he doesnt get forward as much.The good thing with him is that he has got a knack of giving away stupid fouls just at the edge of the box.Hopefully we can get more of the same tomorrow coz RvP has some unfinished business with spuds and his left foot will be sure to leave Friedel for dead.
    Regards their strikers,i think AVB will go with Defoe and Ade.Reason being he has made no secret of his desire to attack us in our home turf(Glad how he has been selling his game plan to the tabloids).This is the one area that gives me the jitters.Defoe and Ade always play well against us.I remember the 2005 game where defoe bagged a brace against us before succumbing to a rebuttal that ensured the three points and five goals.Seeing us we are not sure whether Evans is 100% fit,i expect carrick to cover the back four impeccably and show his former team what they are missing.
    Its stupid to try and second guess what Fergie will put out tomorrow,but i know whoever is selected will give his best.Common United pile the pressure on the Chavs.

  11. Proverb says:

    Picked that from talking red
    Imo even if don’t manage to dominate the likes of barca with tom and jerry [USA pre-season anyone] but it can give them a run of their money. Tom & jerry the future!!

    So United STILL have not lost a match where ando and clevs played together in midfield.

    How long can this go on and would this maybe get them selected for the first 11?

    We really played some good stuff at times on wednesday, and I am happy that both got on the score sheet,.

    That’s 6 win’s in a row now since we lost 1-0 against everton on the opening day.

    GGMU !!!!!

    Despite the format :D …everyone should agree with this

    It has been eons since our midfield carried the team, instead of the other way around.

    Bring Rafael, Jones and Evans to defence, switch Chicharito and Welbeck with RVP and Kagawa

    at half time subsitute Scholes for Fletcher and if all stars align we could produce 45 minutes of such quality that even Barcelona might struggle to dominate the game.

  12. Pal Ghai says:

    For this match,i would rest Kagman and go with Nani.But who im i?Sir Alex knows best.In him we trust

  13. Proverb says:

    ——————–De Gea——————

    Rafael — ferdinand — evans. — buttner/evra

    Carrick

    Rooney — cleverley Kagawa

    Anderson

    RVP

  14. Proverb says:

    Match preview: Looking at Man Utd tomorrow. The Theatre of Doom. Utd blogger @xbirchy gives us an insight into Utd: http://t.co/5Jw6U7Kz

  15. Pal Ghai says:

    Assou Ekotto is also ruled out for tomorrow so Nani should terrorise his understudy i suppose.Failing this,i think he will struggle to get in the team when Ashley and Valencia are fit.I can understand why fans are frustrated with his recent performances but looking back at the match with Galatasaray,he was quite instrumental after fluffing his lines.That penalty miscue must have put some added pressure on him and all along in the match he knew he had to atone for it as every single united player who has missed a penalty this season has made amends and scored a goal .cue Robin and Chicharito.

  16. Robin van Gora says:

    Heard adebayor is injured.

  17. utd will never die says:

    If Tony V is fit don’t see him being left out also expect Scholes to start with Carrick,Rooney sat behind RVP.The left side will be interesting if its Nani or Kagawa

  18. Pal Ghai says:

    No need risking Tony Valencia in this game.We have a very tough upcoming fiture and if he aggravates his injury,we will start blaming the medical team again.We have strength in depth and the sooner we give game time to our youngsters the better.Fergie should let them off the leash and see how it pans out.

    Also i would like to see Kagman rested for this match and see his impact coming on as a substitute if need be.Otherwise,squad rotation will be key as the games come thick and fast lest players are burnt out come the business end of the season.

  19. Proverb says:

    @united will never die “Antonio Valencia is doubtful. He got an ankle injury. But if he’s not okay for tomorrow he should be okay for Tuesday”
    ————————————————————————–
    Rooney welcomes competition http://dlvr.it/2Dl1VP via SkySports

  20. Pal Ghai says:

    Can Rio play three games in a space of seven days?How about Scholes?Im a tad worried coz we need a fresh Rio to keep Demba*2, ba and Cisse at bay next week.Fucking hell,whilst we need to pick up three points at Adrian Mutu’s homeland( so that the final game against Galatasaray will be inconsequential as it will be hard) we also need points in the league to prevent chelsea being the early run away contenders.Tough tough balancing act for the gaffer.I would’nt wish to be in his capacity at the moment.
    Anyway, we are United and we have always thrived under pressure.

  21. utd will never die says:

    Two week gap coming up after Newcastle and I consider Spurs a much tougher team than Cluj so not sure if this is the game to unleash the kids.If Tony V doesn’t start Nani on the right Kagawa left,Scholes and Carrick,Rooney behind RVP seems most likely imo

  22. parryheid says:

    No need risking Tony V this game and you also want to rest Kagawa? My arse if tony is fit he plays,simple and as for giving game time to youngsters that’l be the day.We have a league to win we cant fuck about with your fantasies.

  23. Proverb says:

    Sir alex has told andre villas boas ‘you have a big challenge in your hands’
    Man Utd manager backs Tottenham boss Andre Villas-Boas – The Sun http://bit.ly/Q881NU
    [Aren't this mind games?]

  24. Pal Ghai says:

    Parry
    Its a game of opinion,if you consider mine as fantasies,then im fine with that but i would like to see youngsters gradually intergrated in the team.No easy games in the league anymore so if you are waiting for one where the youngsters will be given a chance,im afraid it will never come to pass.Our matches at home is the ideal arena to see how they gel with experienced comsummate professionals.My 2 cents

  25. Costas says:

    My pocket as always. Won’t be an easy game. It’s funny how Tom and Ando came to life on Wednesday, ahead of a Pr.League fixture in which they made a huge mark last season. Not expecting another comfortable 3-0 unfortunately. However, seeing Rooney and RVP in the line up together for the first time should be a treat.

  26. Capitano says:

    @Parryheid, Kagawa should not be rested, otherwise Abu media will be allover him the coming weeks, remember they have created fantasy btwn Kagawa,Hazard and Carzola! it’s very sickening!

  27. Proverb says:

    Swags should not be rested. Yeah, absolutely right he’s a very, very creative player, his work rate is something not to underestimate. He brings that lot creativity into our midfield and now with wazza back whom he seemed to understand each quite well [even though shrek is not japanese ;) ] they can really create confusion to spurs back-line. Put robin VP persie up top and see how the two two lungged pros work behind him.
    Utterly exciting bunch of players we currently have, hopefully they will gel

  28. utd will never die says:

    Pal Ghai,Spurs are in the top 5 or 6 teams in the league so Utd have to go with their strongest possible line up,if the lads go 2 up then bring on some subs
    Might not be any easy games in the prem but some much easier than Spurs,the fact Spurs haven’t beaten Utd in 22 starts is a stat that gives me the jitters.Getting into law of ave territory,so let’s start the strongest side and worry about the kids for another day

  29. Proverb says:

    “Each other”

  30. Pal Ghai says:

    United will never die
    Point taken and may i add nice retort.Lets see which line up Sir Alex deems fit to bury AVB(again).Fingers crossed.

  31. Wee Toms Ligaments says:

    This Spurs team seems a trickier ask than last season. Van der Vaart is gone an takes with him those 40 yd shots that killed all their momentum. Defoe concerns me if/when he gets a run out at Rio. Could be a dangerous match to play a half field trap.

  32. Redbilly says:

    United will never die- door on with the stats, low of averages and all that. Sime are if the opinion the 3 points are in the bag but that us never the case ever.

  33. Proverb says:

    Kagawa is more likely to play than the two midweek goal scorers
    He can’t be rested for two matches, I bet he’ll start alongside………..
    Scholes might not start will come off the bench to influence play
    Rooney will certainly start after not finishing the game the other night
    Giggs is a no no
    Anderson maybe
    Tom may start alongside carrick
    Antonio V will not start so maybe nani will Get the nod, just maybe but his recent form is the cause of my doubt
    Chicha to come on as a sub
    Welbeck will surely be rested for this one
    Powell might see some minutes in midweek

  34. parryheid says:

    Pat Ghia.

    I’m not waiting on any game in the league at all to blood or give youth games,as far as I’m concerned strongest possible team at all times injuries permitting saw what happened with experimenal teams or did you forget Blackburn game.

  35. berbatunday says:

    with defoe as there only striker, who shots any time he is in the offensive half, I think its better to go with DDG for this match. They do not possess much of a physical presence in the penalty box and so the DDG will be fine dealing with routine crosses. I also like our shape for the Newcastle game, we can continue on the front and maybe Kags should start from the bench?

  36. tisya says:

    i think the ando -clev combination in midfield will tear the spurs apart.evans should play alongside rio at fb.ronney & rvp should form an impeccable attack with nani and kagawa on the wings.De Gea is far better than linda

  37. Proverb says:

    Man utd v Newcastle united u-21′s team sheet… Angelo Henriquez on the bench. Live on from 630pm… http://pic.twitter.com/9r1MvymR

    Hopefully the boy gets to plays, finally!!!

  38. Proverb says:

    Man utd U21 XI: Johnstone, Cole, Thorpe, Fornasier, Blackett, Tunnicliffe, Lingard, Petrucci, King, Brady, Macheda

  39. Proverb says:

    Man utd U21 Subs: Gollini, McGinty, Veseli, James, Henriquez

  40. Proverb says:

    Newcastle have got a 12 year old doing the full pre match warm up. No idea of his name but he must be special being part of set up at 12

  41. Utd4life says:

    Utd are a goal up thanks to a Macheda goal. The assist was provided by Petrucci. The U-21′s are looking good so far.

  42. Proverb says:

    Its 1-1 now a similar goal to one macheda scored by newcastle

  43. Proverb says:

    32 mins and 2-1 Petrucci after great play from Lingard and Macheda.

  44. devil without a cause says:

    any links plz

  45. parryheid says:

    myp2p good link MUTV

  46. parryheid says:

    orrection myp2peu.sorry.

  47. devil without a cause says:

    thanks mate

  48. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Ángelo Henríquez makes his debut for #mufc u21s
    Currently 3-2 United U21s over Barcodes.

  49. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Angleo Henriquez scores 4-2 United U21. Debut Performance! Get in Angelo. United!

  50. edcunited1878 says:

    Great pass by Tunni to free King who chips it to the waiting Henriquez who nods it over from a yard or two out

  51. denton davey says:

    “Dimitar Berbatov has been ruled out of Fulham’s Premier League fixture against Manchester City.

    The £5m summer signing sustained an injury during training with what was the final shot of practice. The hip/upper thigh problem will keep the Bulgarian striker out of action for the next two weeks.”

    D’ya figure that Dimmy is eating his “revenge” cold ?

  52. Proverb says:

    Henriquez scores on his debut for United. 4-2 United.

  53. Costas says:

    What revenge would that be Denton?

  54. Proverb says:

    Lindegaard impressed with Manchester United’s defensive options http://bit.ly/QkW5XF

    De gea guaranteed to start tomorrow

  55. Proverb says:

    4-2 win for Man utd U21s vs Newcastle, 3 wins from 3 in the league this season. Macheda with a brace, Petrucci & debutant Henriquez also score.

  56. Proverb says:

    The Daily Mail says Nani has had a bust-up with promising youngster Davide Petrucci and the former could be set for an exit…

  57. Proverb says:

    Henriquez had 3 shots on goal & all 3 on target. Sharp.

  58. Proverb says:

    Tomorrow is judgement day for nani
    If he does not play, his days may well be numbered.
    Let’s hope he play

  59. james21 says:

    Off Topic
    Pal Ghai
    Any reason why you are cutting and pasting comments from another forum (Mine and Cedars) and posting them on here as your own?

    On Topic
    Come on Reds!

  60. mara says:

    Defintly money on Spurs :-)

  61. Proverb says:

    Spurs are in for a big hiding mark my words
    They are no match for the red devils
    ————————————————————————–
    This place will be buzzing again tomorrow there’s no doubt about that
    GGMU!!!! 19

  62. slim says:

    If what james21 says is true then you’re a piece of work pal ghai. Fuck me mate this is some sick Shit. Get it together

  63. planetx6 says:

    Bustup in training. Nani punched Petrucci in training apparently….rumor doing the rounds. any intel?

  64. ji sung says:

    Not a fan of the RVP chant that United fans are addicted to singing although it is addictive though to be fair.

    What u think of this fellas?
    Van Persie ooah van Persie ooah, He comes from rotterdam, HE IS THE FUCKING MAN, van Persie ooah………

  65. Proverb says:

    Surely moved on in january, this won’t keep up and the gaffer wouldn’t swallow it
    Absolutely cracking player on his day he’s capable of producing one moment of brilliance a fucking talent player http://buff.ly/R0KNsj has this been made up WTF nani HFIO

  66. Redbilly says:

    James21- how are you. Still keeping Stockport red?.

  67. Redbilly says:

    If it’s true about nani it’s a real shame. Hope he stays and gains his form

  68. Zibbie says:

    James21 this Pal Ghai dude cut and pasted this STR!!!!!!

    STR

    SEPTEMBER 28, 2012 AT 13:20
    Pal Ghai says:
    Wazza makes people better players. He will feed Kagawa where he likes to receive the ball. He will free RvP with his motion and positional awareness. He will pass to Lil Pea and Dan to get their confidence up. He runs till he pukes. Let him play MF.
    His 3d vision is off the charts.
    A winner like a Russell or Magic.
    A Scouser leading his team to 19
    4th all time goal scorer
    2 30+ goal seasons, ie consistent goal scorer.
    Lads love him, learn from him.
    SAF delivers instructions through him.

    GO ROONEY!!!!!!!!!

    STR if it looks like a Zibbie, Read likes A Zibbie? IT’S A ZIBBIE!!!!!

  69. Zibbie says:

    Wow I look smarter as another fake guy?

    He hurts this blog. I am immune to ass holes. It is a gift.
    Daddy wanted a girl but got you. Each day you strive to make daddy happy? Confused says. What?

  70. WeAreUnited says:

    What the hell is wrong with people,

    what’s going on, who is fake and who is what? who’s copypasting and what??

    this is crazy hahahahah, i’m laughing my ass off :D

    some people should get their grip together, cmon son!

    UNTEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD, tomorrow, Tottenwho? will feel our anger!!!!

  71. tom c says:

    Jesus, Nani fucking sort it out! been backing you for a while now, you let me down, fuck you.

    hope he plays against Spurs though, can’t see anything stopping him from doing so.. unless the rumours’re true :/

  72. manc in aus says:

    There’s some odd fuckers about,
    Looking forward to seeing the same midfield as Wednesday play again if not on saturday, great to have fletch back demanding the ball bossing the midfield & our passing looks slick & fluid with Tom & ando with Rooney dropping deep, hope ando gets a good run of games, always rated him but he’s never played to his potential, sees a pass quicker than others & drives forward. We have a good mix in midfield to pick from as everyone is fit now.
    A fit Rooney & RVP to start together v Spuds, have a feeling we might start seeing some football taught by Matt Busby soon

  73. Red Tash says:

    Get in United.We will never die.

  74. utd will never die says:

    If the Nani rumors are true just shows how much pressure he’s under.I’m sure players get into it all the time in the heat of the moment.Shows everyone is battling hard in training and fighting for a place which is a good thing.
    Only negative I see is Nani is a senior player having a go at a young lad just hope the lad stuck up for himself and cracked Nani back,personally don’t see it as a big deal

  75. Redial says:

    It will be interesting to see what formation SAF plays today and how he fits kagawa, rooney and RVP in the same team. More interesting is how rooney and RVP does when played together.
    As for Nani, it’s quite obvious to even a half-eyed fellow that he’s damn creative. What’s not so obvious is his level of intelligence. As creative as he is, if at 26 he is not able to improve on his decision-making, it leaves a huge space for questions and doubts like we have flying around now. Will he be sold? The future shall tell. However, the signs are not encouraging.

  76. Marq says:

    If the rumors are true that he confronted Petrucci, I’m afraid that spells the end of him. With Young & Valencia out, if Nani is not in the squad against Spurs, it will probably confirm the rumors and this might be the last we see of Nani

  77. manc in aus says:

    Been in Aus for a few years but being a Heywood lad myself was chuffed to fuck to see Tunni get a run against Newcastle, was at the youth cup final when back in Manchester last year,great player, controlled the midfield, hard as nails, great to see him kick on, but of Keene about him

  78. manc in aus says:

    Bit not but, fair play to his old man, ten grand, your round mate

  79. james21 says:

    Red Billy.
    Good thanks. Yes Stockport is Red now, my work is done. I’m just setting off up there for the game later. Hope you are well mate.

    R.E
    Pal Ghai
    Had a text from Giggs12, said there are a few of his comments on here that have been cut and paste. Come on mate think for yourself most of the comments you are using have nothing to do with the thread you post them on so again I’m not really sure of your motives.

    I’m sure they’ll be no answer so I’ll leave ROM in peace. Enjoy the game.

    UTD UTD UTD.

  80. Proverb says:

    Good morning ROM, its match day today and anything but a win would really put us in a great position come the end of the day, whilst acknowledging that spurs are no walkovers we sure in years have bettered them home and away, and I think today it will be no different.
    Hopefully arse nal will do us a favour, and hold the chavs or even win. Going by their recent form, they’re a capable of causing an upset today hoping jervinho will finish his chances
    ————————————————————————–
    Man Utd to buy ‘new Sneijder’ and ‘real’ Arshavin – Emirates http://bit.ly/QaqDN2

  81. Scholesy says:

    @Proverb
    Kevin strootman seems probabale but dont think we should go for Igor Denisov with his salary tantrums at PSG…Not united kind of player

  82. Sir Trengove says:

    Nani punched a youth player? Very much not atypical. Says a lot about the miserable excuse for a club that you are. Bloody asylum run by the loony Fergie.
    Shelvs should have decked the cretin.

  83. FletchTHEMAN says:

    This thing with Petrucci and Nani sounds ott. First, it is the Daily Mail that is reporting it.

    Oliver Kay of the Times actually reporting that a Mail reporter has been banned by Fergie for the story that Valencia was seen on crutches this week.

    Maby the Mail will start running out of journos covering united and these

    piss ant little stories will go away. ;)

  84. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Here is the story from Chris Wheeler on Nani bust up.

    Not painting a pretty picture of our winger.

    What to do when your Nani doesn’t play nice the the youngsters :lol:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2210264/EXCLUSIVE-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-fumes-Nani-winger-punches-reserve-midfielder-Davide-Petrucci.html

  85. Costas says:

    @Fletch

    Morning mate. The most interesting part from the link you posted was this:

    ‘I don’t think Nemanja was ever 100 per cent,’ said Ferguson. ‘I noticed a couple of times in training that he was limping and then he started feeling tightness in his knee.”

    I know we were short on options, but this was completely irresponsible. And now we’ve lost Vidic for 2 more months as a result.

    As for Nani, don’t know if the story is true or not. If he did though, today coild be the first time that I can recall where we will line up without wingers.

  86. belfast red. says:

    If thats true bout nani it must be outa pure frustration of the way hes playing. All this transfer speculation and agents can make a player loose sight of the main reasons they play for. For honour and trophys. Think his head isnt in the right place atm.

  87. DreadedRed says:

    Happy Matchday Reds!

    I’m attending a wedding today, and the bride has insisted that the TV’s remain off. Bitch!
    What’s a good union without United? Recipe for divorce, I’d say.

    Been a long time since I missed a game, ah well. With or without me, come on United!

  88. DreadedRed says:

    I notice that all the talk blames Nani for the alleged training-ground bust-up with Petrucci.

    Possibly Nani is at fault, but the fact that he is being blamed for an incident that we still know nothing about speaks clearly to the fickle bias of selfish fans. Let’s not lynch our player based on innuendo and unsupported opinion. It seems to me that some fans are hoping that he deserves eviction to suit their own ends.

    Turning on our player because he MIGHT have unfairly turned on our player is hardly the action of a supporter. Lynch not, else be known as an ABU aroused, self-serving flocker.

  89. DreadedRed says:

    Sir Alex says:

    “I think probably our strongest part of the club at the moment is the striking department. I think Welbeck and Chicharito have been doing really well and Shinji’s been terrific, he’s been settling in well. The combinations we have up front, I think are quite strong.”

    “It did a lot of good for Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke because they knew that Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer wanted to play. And they did get a lot of football; I was able to change them around several times.”

    “It’s early doors of course but I don’t know what my best partnership would be because I haven’t seen Rooney and van Persie together. Wayne has to play games and get game time now. I think Robin has still got a bit to do as well in terms of game time because he missed the whole of pre-season. In the Liverpool match he was playing against players who had 10 or 12 matches under their belt.”

    “[Rooney] had a great training programme during the time he was off. He was never out of the gym to begin with because obviously running was out of the question. But in the last two weeks he’s been gradually getting to the football part.”

  90. Redbilly says:

    Dreaded red- ‘ to have and to hold, From this day forward, till death us do……… Oh everyone , 2-0 united :-) most priests are red, especially if they are Irish.

  91. Redbilly says:

    Dreaded red 09:23- the saying ‘ withold judgement in the absence of evidence ‘ comes to mind.

    Something happened yes, but we are not privvy to the facts /. Context if the incident. .

  92. DreadedRed says:

    Redbilly – Ha Ha Ha ! ! ! Should anyone here present know of any reason that these Reds should not be United in holy matchimony, leave now or forever hold your peace! The ceremony is on the beach in front of of my local boozer, and the reception is at my local, so I’ll be plying the priest with Red wine, from unison to kick-off. I’m hoping he can put in a good word with the bride or the Powers that be.

  93. Redbilly says:

    Such things men sacrifice on the name of marriage !. Should ban weddings during the season .

  94. Diego says:

    http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8119561/Ferguson-makes-Vidic-admission

    What the fuck? He thinks that Vidic wasn’t ready but yet he still played and trained? It really doesn’t make any sense.

  95. DreadedRed says:

    Redbilly – exactly. Jumping on the anti-Nani band-wagon based on unsupported speculation is obviously falling for the ABU’s ploy. Funny thing is that most of the Nani-naysayers complain that he’s too soft, based on his tears after Carragher tried to end his career. If he did punch the 188 cm, 87 kg Petrucci into submission, then he’s hardly a milksop.

  96. Redbilly says:

    It’s always easy to jump to conclusions . For all we know nani may have acted like a right JT but the fact is we do not know the facts , hence any reasons for the incident and SAF response are pure speculation . I dislike unfounded conclusions to the incident being posted , though people are entitled to their opinions . But at this stage the only faces we have is that an incident occured.

    Regardless of his erratic form, I’m saddened by how wuicky some wish to discard a player who has , though fickle at times re performance, given so much .

  97. Redbilly says:

    Typos !

  98. united says:

    In your pockets!!

  99. Marq says:

    I don’t think anyone has turned against Nani for the “incident” yet. All that everyone is saying is that if it is true, we will probably not see much of him anytime soon. So nobody is jumping onto any bandwagon, because there isn’t any, except that on the DM, which we all know how “reliable” they are.

  100. Redbilly says:

    Marq- let’s hope it’s resolved , and in time we are singing his praises again .

  101. DreadedRed says:

    I’d bet that if the reports filtering through were saying that Petrucci punched Nani, we would be reading comments like: “the effing softcock probably deserved it”

    Anyway, I’m outta here. Enjoy the game my fellow Reds. Come on United!

  102. Redbilly says:

    Dreadedred- enjoy the wedding

  103. United Till I Die says:

    By all accounts Nani is a good bloke on the pitch as well as off it, so I must say I doubt he’s punched anybody. Even if the story turns out to be true I reckon the “victim” must’ve asked for it.

    Ask and you shall receive init? :lol:

    Being paid 90k while Silva is on 200+ is piss take enough, so having some no mark taking more liberties is enough to warrant red mist in any red-blooded male.

    But GBH or not, Nani is still the best winger in the league. He ain’t going nowhere, for starters Sir Alex knows more than you lot about these things. Thats why Anderson is still here and everybody is suddenly insisting he starts today!

    Just back your players for fuck sake especially the ridiculously talented ones, thats my advice – or failing that just back the bloody manager who insisted on bringing these lads to the Club in the first place.

    Maybe a little violence is what Nani needed to focus his game anyway? You lot on here defending your right to sing about other Clubs (fair enough) I just hope your not the same ones all aghast and horrified at the prospect of one bloke punching another.

    Petrucci is 20 not 12 for fuck sake – if he really was punched by Nani so fucking what? Should’ve had his guard up when he was invited into the Gym hahaha.

    The story probably is made up – but Nani does need to put his nice guy image to bed anyway. He has the impression of being lightweight like Young but he’s more athletically built like Valencia.

    Whatever happened lets hope our winger has reached a turning point. I reckon he’s gonna go nuts next time he scores!

    Come on United!

  104. frankie says:

    No wonder Petrucci had a black eye yesterday! It didn’t affect his game though, as he was oustanding. He seems to have everything for a midfielder: pace, control, aggression and a great shot. Cannot wait to see him in the first team.

  105. Proverb says:

    Interesting read
    Anderson had a tough childhood as well!! http://fb.me/1T8AQn8Ri
    Its a come from where I’m going, the stereotypes and the jerkoffs in full swing.

  106. Xyth says:

    Nani needs to get in control of his career before it is too late! With Tony and Ashley injured, surely he is in the last chance saloon! If he has any sense, he would grab this and show the boss that he deserves to remain a United player! He must know that after United, his carrer can only go down the hill.

  107. United Till I Die says:

    @Proverb – that was a brilliant read about Anderson, Id advise every red to give it a read, especially the ones who can’t stand him!

  108. Proverb says:

    Yeah @united till I die, he’s gone through tough times really, tempting experiences.
    His father died when was only 13 years old battled the loss of his father, aswell as ignoring the drugs that most of his friends were consuming and stuck by his own to finally realize his dream. Which is of playing professional football. That shows character man
    Sad thing is fans who are soo quick to jump at the bandwagon kept on slating him, but the lad kept on smiling to finally show his true self despite injuries and those sort of things being thrown at him all the time.

  109. WeAreUnited says:

    Yeah a great read about Anderson,

    the thing about him is, I always backed him up when people slated him, but he has sso many injuries that it was hard to say anything about him anymore.

    Then came last year, where he started with cleverley and I was over the moon and saw the Anderson we wanted, then he got injuried again! whoooot?

    And this year, well, hard to say, but when he played with Clevs, they played GREAT!.

    the thing about Anderson, like the article showed us is that, he is a playmaker and his “real” role is the kagawa’s role, and I think because of that, he has never ( a strong word) has shown us his true colours, he should get 1 or 2 games in that role so we could see what he is capable of.

    Cause when he starts running with the ball, well you will never catch him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KiSVi3hicg one example.

    CMON United!!!!!!

  110. Proverb says:

    Absolutely, once he’s off is off and 3 second later he’s at the opposition box
    I think that’s what sir alex’s trying to do, make him a box to box kinda midfielder
    Let’s see what he’ll offer with a change of system
    Hopefully he stays injury free.

  111. Zibbie says:

    Rooney

  112. Costas says:

    If Petrucci was indeed walking around with a black eye yesterday, I am afraid the Fail were right for once. The likes of Balotelli and Cole have also assaulted younger members of their teams’ squads, but you expect better at United. Don’t know what’s the exact status of his contract negotiations, but Nani better get his shit together soon.

  113. Zibbie says:

    Costas, agree. So much talent. A perpetual hope for maturity to take hold.
    When SAF thinks a irreconcilable difference has occurred. GONE All the time the last 2 years he has tried to sign a winger/CAM 10 type as well. Sanchez, Nasri, Hazard and Lucas to name 4. Most of the transfer talk was of CDM or defense, forwards. Yet SAF has gone hole hog after wingers, and signed Young as well.

  114. Proverb says:

    Chelsea leading arsenal and guess who scored?
    Of all players torres :O

  115. evisu says:

    1-1 Arsenal are really impressive

  116. Proverb says:

    GOAL!! Arsenal 1 (Gervinho) Chelsea 1 http://bit.ly/UzuVh5 Amusing that Gervinho scored while Chelsea fans were singing “Robin van Persie, he left cos you’re shit”
    Well done arsenal , were going top of the table later, come on arsenal , do it for united

  117. parryheid says:

    I slate him constantly and he’s given me plenty opportunities,so remember fans one swallow does not a Summer make.We’ll soon see if this is his usual one or two good performances,I wont hold my breath.

  118. WeAreUnited says:

    if it’s true about petruccis eye, then can soeone put a picture from yesterdays game? I watched the 21 game and didn’t notice any black eye?

    Nani and macheda are good friends and macheda is good friends with petrucci, so it sounds wierd, anything can happen, this is life, but still-.

    If he hit him ,then deserved it or not, it’s not good for the team, and why call him to the gym, when he could have done it on the pitch?

    well we’ll see it, I hope it’s only rumours, like many have said, if Nani doesn’t play or is on the team sheet today, then we know what’s happened.

    I hope nothing, cause Nani is one of the best, but the UNITED goes first!

  119. WeAreUnited says:

    and about slating him, well you slate him cause you go into the bandwagon, and now when he struggles, then it’s easier jump in that bandwagon for many reasons.

    If he’d played like he has played the last 2.5 years, you wou wouldn’t say nothing.

    I bet you slaters did not say anything when he played scored and assisted all those goals.

  120. parryheid says:

    That’s his problem in that is precisely how he has played for the past Five years and I dont expect matters to change any this year.And if there is a bandwagon I never at any time jumped on I was the driver.As for all those goals and assists I must have been out when it happened,dont get all offended when others see a different picture than you that is how life works.

  121. Redbilly says:

    Went to the gunners game . Shame they didn’t clinch it . Let’s hope it’s a double loss for north London.

  122. Santa Claus says:

    Considering composed performance from the midfield esp it will be interesting for united to adopt a similar formation against totenham. With hopefully the same back four that started against liverpool
    and diamond midfield with Kagawa playing top of diamond and carrick in front of the back four , clevs and ando on either side. with rooney/welbeck/hernandez and RvP up front . The advantage of this is that we can swtich to 433 , 4231 anytime we like . And also the top three players can constantly interchange. rooney and Rvp can move left , ronney can drop to ply at top of diamond and kagawa playing along side rvp or rvp dropping to the top of diamond

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