Before Gary Neville got fined £5k for his celebration against Liverpool, what irked me the most about Robbie Fowler’s five digit salute a week before was that he had no claim to Liverpool’s European success.
Whilst wearing City’s blue shirt, he had ten years at Liverpool, 330 appearances to his name, and just five trophies… none of them the European Cup he was bragging about.
That was a horrible moment of that season, just as Fernando Torres’ goal against us last season, before the scousers went on to beat us 4-1. Why Nemanja Vidic allowed the ball to bounce with Torres on the prowl I will never know. But it happened. I never watched highlights of that game, understandably, which is probably why it is only now I have seen how Torres celebrated his goal…

95 appearances, no trophies, certainly not any of the five European Cups he was bragging about. He saw his team get dumped out by Chelsea in the quarter-finals last season and by the same club the season before in the semi-finals, before United went on to win in the final. Five trophies? Was he simply reminding the East Stand how many trophies United have won since he joined Liverpool? How kind.





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Ladyboy twat, he is the current media darling and can’t wait for Vida to get his revenge on the dipper scumbag.
How come you give mention to this today, some 6 months after the event? Has it been playing on your mind all that time?
I know that International weeks are full of “none news” stories, but this is a little strange and almost in fitting with the scouse obsession that large chunks of the Utd support seem to have. (We sing more songs about scousers than we do our own team).
What you havent mentioned, is that Fowler is a boyhood Everton fan, so that makes his jesture even more strange.
Liverpool fans have always gone on about “18+4″ and more recently “18 + 5″, but they fail to count FA Cups or even World Championships.
Whats more, I dont seem to see Madrid fans holding up 9 fingers or Milan fans holding up 8, they simply get on with winning it again.
Its interesting that you note about Vidic letting that ball bounce, but one observation is that Vidic is not comfortable against a bigger striker, a striker with decent pace and a striker in the top class bracket. This has been shown on a few occassions, even against Wolfsburg last week. Its a worry in a way.
Lets hope its not the case on the 25th October.
Scott, I think you have read too much into this. He was probably just saluting the travelling dippers, the lady boy probably can’t even count to five.
@Tufty – If you read the article you would know why Scott is writing about this now.
“I never watched highlights of that game, understandably, which is probably why it is only now I have seen how Torres celebrated his goal…”
Tufty – Like I said in the post, which I will copy and paste in bold for you:
I never watched highlights of that game, understandably, which is probably why it is only now I have seen how Torres celebrated his goal…
Red Phil – it is the “five fingered salute”. Fowler did the exact same thing against us and Torres looks to the East stand when he does it, not the away corner.
The dipers are boring, first “we have 18 league titles,you dont”.WE HAVE NOW-FACT.Now when they know that we have equal that record,and they sure know that this definetly is their season, “we have 5 european trophies, you have 3″.When we equal that ,not easy maybe takes couple of years or more , they will not have anything to say and will be sillenced.
Without killing anyone,we won it 3 times!!!
Even still, is it actually worth noting all this time later?
I was more concerned about Vidics form and his form since, than how any opposing player celebrates.
@tufty
why do you even come on here gufty?
Tufty – I thought it was interesting to see him celebrate that way against us, yes. Anything else or is that your pointless whinge of the day quota all filled up now?
3 times without killing anyone!!!
hehe scott..guess his post comments of the day quota is up too!
I think you’re reading a little too much into it lads, Torres often waves to the crowd in that manner when he scores.
5 times without killing anyone! (You may remember that Juventus actually won that one)
L1
Tufty I honestly don’t know why you bother?! Your comments are pointless and take up space for interesting points. Vidic has had great games against Drogba, (who was so frustrated in the champions league final he slapped Vid and got himself a nice sending off) He dealt with Peter Crouch at Tottenham only a few weeks ago. If you go back last year, the amount of ‘Big’ Centre forwards around, we would not have won the league had vidic had this problem, you need to start watching United – we had the best defensive record last year, with this guy Vidic your slating.
Scott thanks for the article, nice to not read about England and still get the boys excited about the liverpool game.
We’ll never die!!
Someone gonna mention Wenger’s illicit interests anytime soon (macedonia united). Get that boy banned.
Football: The nuances of the game and the interactions between players and fans are very subtle at times. Torres knows what he’s at here and he’ll be lauded by them’uns for it.
If i was a player, which im not far off being, id adopt a subtle and sickening way of winding up the bitterest rivals….its second only to scoring winning goals against them in 4mins+ injury time in ways to endear yourself to the faithful.
Yip
“Was he simply reminding the East Stand how many trophies United have won since he joined Liverpool? How kind.”
Spot on Scott!!
Vidics display in the champions league final was in May 2008, almost 12 months before Vidics poor performance against Torres and his subsequent poor displays in a lot of the big games since.
For all the height Peter Crouch has, he is not a physical player who will dominate strongly in the air or buly a defender, he also has no pace.
Yes we had a great defensive record, but Vidic has struggled in the bigegr games since last April and has not dominated against the better forwards as he once did. Recent games against Wolfsburg and even Sunderland have shown this weakness.
Crouch makes mince meat of Terry everytime he plays.
He’s won the segunda division
but thats about it at club level
@Tufty.
WTH are you on about.Vidic didnt kick a ball for 2 months .give him some time.Every CB has bad games.maybe you are forgetting how he made torres a spectator in 2007-08 in both the games in the league .Torres is not a shit striker but one of the best in the world.No defender is gonna have all good gamnes there will be a few bad ones.Unfortunately it was against the dippers and in the CL final.
get a grip and stop moaning about how bad vida is.he isstill the best in the world.
hes half a boy hes half a girl torres torres
cunt
Ive always had a theroy about that, i think torres put his hand up out of respect for united. Saf had been tracking torres from a young age. There were reports that we had 2 bids turned down by athletico madrid for him. I remember he give an interveiw to guillem balague wen he was still at madrid talking about the united rumours, he said he had a lot of respect for united, he didn’t deny the rumours. We know he ended up at scumpoo but i think he wud have joined united if we had ave got in there before the dippers. ps thats my theroy for wat its worth
Willie, I think you are wrong there pal.
I was just throwing it out there stephen, gets ppl thinking though.
Does anyone else think Torres looks a bit like heather mills?
Maybe it’s just me.
Tufty you should know that centre back is all about who you are playing with for what period of time, the United defence has been moved, shifted and rotated this season as well as last. This season he came up against Wolfsberg still arguably not 100% fit, against a striker who, if you read back Scott, myself and others noted was class last year, SAF agreed with this, its rumoured Milan are looking at him. Against Sunderland, it showed he is still uncomfortable with Foster behind him. Edwin will return and Vidic will be fine. Every great defender makes mistakes, you’ve picked one game against torres, with one mis-judgement costing us. The amount of times he has saved us is unreal. I’m bored of your comments, you sound like a Chelski fan!
On another subject, great news coming every few days out of Carrington that Hargo is impressing everyone. Desperate to get him back, was one of our most consistent performers, especially loved THAT free kick at the S. End at OT against Wengers mob. We love you Owen!!
I want curly haor toooooo
@ Tufty
Fuck off, mate!
If somebody posted that United wear red shirts at home, you’d probably say they needed their eyes checked!
Disagreeing with everybody else doesn’t make you big or clever – just a pathetic bitter twat!
who cares? He can wave his fingers how he likes, lets just concentrate on us and let them live on past glories, we should look forward to future ones.
Guys, what he pointing 5 is because he want’s to get console for not getting any trophies for the years he been here. 5 meaning he is fine and won’t mind getting 5 more years without trophies. lol
I hope he indicated the number of times he’s gonna break his legs each year … the spanish nancy boy
Ferdinand is Utds key defender.
Some might say vidics mind is on other things, with him nearly leaving in he summer but Utd supposedly refusing to sanction it in the same summer Ronaldo left.
Yes Vidic is a superb player, but he hasnt been on the top of his game since early in the year.
Nancy boy is simply an envious idiot who will never win anything.
We will show her soon who are the Champions.
Personally I think Rio and Vida are superb together, they complement each other styles perfectly.
He can wave 8 fingers for all I care, he has all the time to do it. Our players, meanwhile, don’t have the time to wave fingers in the air because they’re too busy winning. We don’t need to tell people how many trophies we won, because they’re instantly forgotton and the next trophy is the new target.
We’ll never die.
Now then Reds, managed to get to a PC. Horrible fucking ladyboy cunt. Like Scott I didn’t actually realise he had done that. How can he , he has won fuck all. Joker. Won’t win owt as long as he is at the dippers. Had to laugh last night, I was watching a programme about Footy banners. There were a couple of dippers ones and the lad involved kept referring to one of the banners from 2001 as “this was seen in our TREBLE winning season of 01″ He actually said it theree times. TREBLE, sorry did I miss summat? Fucking deluded scousers!
quite subtle, he gets my respect for that.. At least he appreciates his club’s history unlike the iberian we used to have.
Scott – you have every right to write whatever comes to your mind! You’re magic!
Tufty – you have every right to go to the next arcitle/blog/site if Vida’s form annoys you that much. It has nothing to do with this topic and I think you are being harsh on him after coming back from a long term injury, with stop start partnerships…
And to my fellow Reds – lets show this blondy-locks-peanuts-for-bollocks-prick-eating-flower-arranging-POOF BAG he’s nothing in History!
HE WAS MAYBE INDICATING HOW MANY TIMES HES BEEN GANG RAPED IN THE DRESSING ROOM,
FAG
Lol thedevil85 spot on. @tufty watch ur mouth or VIDA WILL F-IN KILL YA.