Goalkeeper:
Tally Hall (Houston Dynamo) – 26 years old. Signed for Danish club Esbjerg when he was 22 years old and spent two years there, but didn’t play in any competitive games. Scored a goal from his own half in a CONCACAF Champions League game against Isidro Metapán. He has a dog named Fifa and supports Spurs.
Faryd Mondragón (Philadelphia Union) – 40 years old. Made his first competitive appearance in 1990 and has played for 14 different clubs, including Galatasary and Real Zaragoza. He joined the MLS in January 2011 and played 50 games for Colombia.
Defenders:
Corey Ashe (Houston Dynamo) – 25 years old. Won the MLS Cup with his current club in 2007.
Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City) – 24 years old. Was named 2008 Senior College Men’s Scholar All-America Player of the Year when at the University of Notre Dame.
Geoff Cameron (Houston Dynamo) – 26 years old. Made the MLS Best XI in 2009 and has made one appearance for the USA against El Salvador.
Bobby Convey (San Jose Earthquakes) – 28 years old. Agreed a $3m deal with Spurs in 2003 but the deal fell through after he failed to obtain a work permit. The following year he joined Reading and stayed there for five years.
Sean Franklin (LA Galaxy) – 26 years old. Was named MLS Rookie of the Year for the 2008 season.
Jamison Olave (Real Salt Lake) – 30 years old. Won the MLS Cup with his current team in 2009 and was named the MLS Defender of the Year in 2010.
Heath Pearce (Chivas USA) – 26 years old. Began his professional career in the Danish Superliga with Nordsjælland. He has played 32 games for USA.
Tim Ream (New York Red Bulls) – 23 years old. He has made six appearances for USA.
Midfielders:
Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake) – 29 years old. Has played in the MLS All Star game for the past three years running.
David Beckham (LA Galaxy)
Brad Davis (Houston Dynamo) – 29 years old. Won the Gold Cup with USA in 2005.
Jack Jewsbury (Portland Timbers) – 30 years old.
Shalrie Joseph (New England Revolution) – 33 years old. Last year he took a leave of absence from the New England Revolution while he was involved in the Major League Soccer substance abuse and behavioural health program.
Nick LaBrocca (Chivas USA) – 26 years old. Last month, scored the 10,000th goal in MLS history in a 1–1 draw with Sporting Kansas City.
Forwards:
Juan Agudelo (New York Red Bulls) – 18 years old. Began his career at the Red Bulls Academy. Has played 10 games for USA.
Omar Bravo (Sporting Kansas City) – 31 years old. Spent the first eight years of his career at Mexican side Guadalajara. Has played 62 games for Mexico.
Omar Cummings (Colorado Rapids) – 29 years old. Has played 23 games for Jamaica.
Landon Donovan (LA Galaxy)
Thierry Henry (New York Red Bulls)
Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes) – 28 years old. He is half-Native American and is a member of the Kiowa tribe.
Inactive All-Stars: Kasey Keller (Seattle Sounders FC), Omar Gonzalez (LA Galaxy), Rafa Marquez (New York Red Bulls), Brek Shea (FC Dallas)
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Looking forward for this game!!!! Come Red Army…..GGMU
customary to say first I suppose
FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
Any idea how our lineup could be like…..I hope to see Hernandez involved in this game. Bloody love this guys!!!!
I’m going to have to split up my night’s sleep to catch this movie. Thankfully, tomorrow is the last day of the week, so all should be well. It will be great to see David Beckham and Theirry Henry playing against us again.
This could also be considered as the final friendly for us during pre-season. Next match against Barcelona will be viewed with more seriousness I presume, even though the result doesn’t matter much. I don’t think it will serve as any yardstick at all but our lads will be more fired up for that one than this.
Come on Red Devils.
I know its just friendly game BUT frankly I COULDNT wait for that!
COME ON U REDS!!
Oh, btw, GOOD MORNING ROMers!!
Have a nice day fella…
Should be a fun game.
I’d like to see a Premier all star 11……. but whats the point when it’d be a clone of Manchester Uniteds starting 11 anyway.
Are you a wizard?
Who else wants to se Berba and Nani play against Barcelona, see how it would have worked out?
This will be a completely random post but I have to get it off my chest, I can’t believe how small time City are. Seriously. How fucking pathetic are their fans. I just saw some Sky Sports comments on the never ending shitstorm that is “Aguero to City” (how many different ways can you say, we’re speculating he will talk to City soon), who said that the youth system down the road is one of the best in the country. Words fail me. He tried to justify it by saying over the last decade 30 players from the youth system have played in the first team. Am I the only one who thinks that number doesn’t seem extremely high? And regardless, only 4 years ago City were about to have a season in which they were relegation candidates!!!!! They seem to have forgotten that completely haven’t they! The quality of those shites down the road was so poor it’s no wonder they got players from the youth system into the first team, because it was shite. It’s not exactly hard to improve on pure shit is it? I’m disgusted by City these days, yes they have always been deluded and extremely bitter bluenoses, but now they’re fans are just scum. I used to grudingly admire the fact that even though they were shit they supported their team when they could easily have chosen us from a young age. But now they are such a flash team, no humility, no class, no morals, it sickens me. I mean, the Etihad Stadium?!?!? Yeah of course polishing the shit that is Eastlands is worth £400 million. What a joke, if that utter shitehole is worth that then imagine how much we could sell Old Traffords naming rights for. But that brings me to another point, we don’t need to do that because we are a big club, we are proud of our heritage and where we came from, we don’t have to rename Old Trafford “Tampa Bay Stadium 2 brought to you by AON, AIG and McDonalds @ deansgate.com”. We have fucking standards. And that makes me so proud to support the best football club in the world. I would rather shag a bucket with a big hole in it than be a City fan. Never been more true than nowadays. They are a disgrace and so small time it’s unbelievable. They can’t even fill their ground against Juventus for fucks sake! When was the last time City had a big European name down their ground??? If that doesn’t get the fans out then I think we can all see how “MASSIVE” City are. Passionless, Soulless, Classless bastards the lot of them. Rant Over. Hope we smash the fuck out of MLS All Stars and continue our good pre season form. In fact I hope we absolutely destroy City at Wembley, I’ll be there and I want those fuckers to burn. Rant is now really over.
Balaji says:
“Thankfully, tomorrow is the last day of the week”
What happened to Friday? Rebecca will not be pleased.
Come on,you mighty REDS!!!!!!!
Who the hell is ‘David Beckham’?
@bobbycharlie1968:
they’re just deluded bitters cunt mate, sometime I wonder what would happend with their team when (not if) the sheikh pull out all of his money. No Class, Shit Fans, Pure Comedy!
bobbiecharlie1968 – Ha ha!! I could feel the passion and anger! Good lad, you’re spot on they are small time. Most things they do nowadays is done in order to annoy us rather than improve themselves. They remind me of when I was younger and I’d split up with my mrs. I’d go down the local boozer and my ex would be there and spot me walking in. She’d then head over to the nearest victim and chat him up, while all the time looking over his shoulder at me, obviously just trying to wind me up. And when I leave she fucks him off. That’s City, a jilted bitter ex bird!!!
Covyder – I’d be suprised if Chicharito plays, Sir Alex said he wants to get him more training under his belt first.
..aaaaaand they’re all shite
I hope Aguero fuckin flops. Looks like a right little prick. He’s unproven in the prem as well. Let’s hope some of our league’s less ‘cultured’ defenders make sure he gets a warm welcome.
Also, I hope Shitty aren’t under any illusions that Aguero represents a step forward if kettleneck goes. Much as I hate the little troll, Tevez is a better player than Aguero. If he does leave, City’s squad has actually taken a step back over the summer. Good times.
@DKB07 we’ll never see how it might have been, the whole mood around the game has been dampened with reports that Messia and some other first team players wont be playing, so even if we win it will be said that we played against the second string and all that stuff. If we lose you’ll see headlines about Barcelona’s second string humiliating us. So it may not be quite the rematch people are waiting for..
Watching united in the early hours of the morning again! Must keep my vuvuzela under check!
Team for MLS
Lindegard
Rafael Smalling Vidic Evans
Young Jones Cleverley Obertan
Rooney Owen
——————————
Team for Barca
De Gea
Fabio Rio Jones Evra
Nani Carrick Anderson Young
Rooney Berbatov
Is it me or are city buying for the sake of it? aguero is fucking similar to tevez, althougha quality player he really isn’t what city needed, i think they buy so other clubs dont get them
Is it me or are city buying for the sake of it? aguero is fucking similar to tevez, althougha quality player he really isn’t what city needed, i think they buy so other clubs dont get them
Thierry Henry and David Beckham. I’ve heard of them before.
6-0 United
@samuel. Who cares what city buys? They bought aguero? fine. doesn’t change anything. Not better than Rooney, RVP, even torres on his day is a much better striker and they are selling tevez so it’s pretty much the EXACT same thing as last year. Tevez is even better than him so LOL.
Personally I think Aguerro is a better player than tevez (although not proven in the prem like tevez) but that’s not to say he won’t be able too. However, I agree that Strikers were probably not a priority. If Tevez doesn’t leave they’re going to have to find a way of keeping Dzeko, Ballotelli, Tevez and Aguerro happy. And they still haven’t unloaded Adebayor, Sata Cruz and Craig Bellamy!
bobbycharlie1968
Fantastic rant, I loved it.
Passe – Balaji is currently in Dubai, their weekend over there is Friday & Saturday
Afternoon all true REDS
city have so much dead wood in their squad and no team harmony
their team is full of merceneries and will cause chaos at the first sign of problems
just look at the garbage they have:
3 DF Wayne Bridge
6 MF Michael Johnson
7 MF James Milner
8 MF Shaun Wright-Phillips
9 FW Emmanuel Adebayor
12 GK Stuart Taylor
14 FW Roque Santa Cruz
19 DF Joleon Lescott
28 DF Kolo Touré
32 FW Carlos Tévez (captain)
37 GK Gunnar Nielsen
38 DF Dedryck Boyata
39 FW Craig Bellamy
40 MF Vladimír Weiss
43 FW Alex Nimely
45 FW Mario Balotelli
50 MF Abdisalam Ibrahim
62 MF Abdul Razak
–– DF Greg Cunningham
–– DF Nedum Onuoha
What time will this game be on at ??? English O’clock ?
Afternoon Cedars – How are you on this fine sunshining day?
“I hope Aguero fuckin flops. Looks like a right little prick. He’s unproven in the prem as well. Let’s hope some of our league’s less ‘cultured’ defenders make sure he gets a warm welcome.”
Dunno, I think he’ll manage as he’s south American. Argentine and Uruguayan defenders for starters are a lot tougher and nastier than our defenders who are weak and sluggish by comparison.
Probably will be a good signing for them as he’s probably going to replace Tevez. Balotelli is clearly unreliable and Dzeko is one who is unrpoven in the Prem – Aguero hasn’t yet had the chance. He certainly looked all right against Chelsea. But I’m not too bothered – City can now attract players of that quality, a level or two below the elite. Sanchez would have been different but they missed out on him because a proper club (or two) was in for him.
LOL, Aguero to City. This is going to make a certain Lebanese Devil happy.
@BobbyCharlie, Fucking awesome rant. You could’ve been me in disguise. I hate City even though I don’t live in Manchester. In the olden days, Manchester Derby was almost like any other game for me. I understood its significance and, as usual, wanted United to win. Obviously, the hate you people have for City was never there for me before. However, nowadays, the hate and rage is as much as you guys. I don’t even think I hated Chelsea as much as City. For all their problems, Chelsea still maintained some semblance of class in the way they went about their purchases. City are the absolute gutter in football right now. If there is one club that highlights everything wrong with football – it is Manchester City.
@Passe, LOL! I am in the Middle East (Dubai) mate. Fridays and Saturdays are off here. Just re-read my first post, “I’m going to have to split up my night’s sleep to catch this movie.” I said movie, what the fuck, I obviously meant the match. And I need to watch less films I think.
Manc sam – It says 9.00pm local time, which I think is 2am uk?
Cheers all who appreciated my rant, I think I was speaking for quite a few of us who are fucked off at city.
@mikekelly12 I know the type well, fantastic analogy for City
Speaking of Sanchez, how the FUCK did Barca get him for £20m? It’s a fucking joke! Same with the fee Inter paid for Sneijder – about £13m was it?
Can you ever imagine these clubs selling to an English side for those sums of money?
Howdy Cedars, hope you are doing well.
@mikekelly, Given what he’s been posting about the heat and the babes in two-piece, I think he is in the best position among all of us. I don’t think I could hate him anymore than I do right now.
We are going to batter this team!!!
My Team to play would be;
Lindeguard,
Fabio,Rio, Jones, Evans
Park ,Cleverley, Giggs, Obertan
Owen, Welbeck
Subs: De Gea, Smallings,Rafa, Ando, Young, Macheda, Berb
For Barca, It would be:
De Gea
Rafa, Smallings, Vida, Evra
Nani, Carrick, Anderson, Young
Rooney,Berba
Subs: Amos, Jones, Fabio, Cleverley,Giggs, Chico, Welbeck
What? Sanchez was 20 mln? How FFS!!! Therefore WS 15 mln.
3 DF Wayne Bridge
Fat Boy
6 MF Michael Johnson
7 MF James Milner – Squad player bought for God Knows how much
8 MF Shaun Wright-Phillips – 29 and has played like 10 games in 5 years
9 FW Emmanuel Adebayor –
12 GK Stuart Taylor – Who?
14 FW Roque Santa Cruz – Remember when “fans” wanted this shite head
19 DF Joleon Lescott – First team player ! shouldn’t be here !
28 DF Kolo Touré – Fatty Took Drugs to be Boney white girl….FAIL….Busted
32 FW Carlos Tévez (captain) – Went into clinic for Circumcision, doctor went to his neck, the rest is History.
37 GK Gunnar Nielsen – Youth Player
38 DF Dedryck Boyata – Their Jonny Evans, Decent player
39 FW Craig Bellamy – That bottle to his head knocked out his remaining 39 brain cells
40 MF Vladimír Weiss – Decent but wasted
43 FW Alex Nimely – Youth player
45 FW Mario Balotelli –
50 MF Abdisalam Ibrahim – Youth player
62 MF Abdul Razak – Youth Player
–– DF Greg Cunningham – Crap
–– DF Nedum Onuoha – Awesome, Everton,sunderland, arsenal,tottenham quality player !
@The Fly: Weren’t we supposed to have signed WS today? Any news?
Papii went and lost his mind.
Settle Papii.
mikekelly12 & Balaji
I am doing well thanks for asking my friends. Aguero to City is pure music to my ears. Him and Dzeko upfront is gonna strike fear, fear in their own fans’ minds as they realize what a crap combo of strikers they have.
I thought the MLS All Stars was Mothers I’d Like to Shag, wearing only stars.
Very disappointing!
Oh well … Good afternoon Red radicals!
willie –
BooM
We are soon playing Barca –
Now aren’t they the founders of Manchester United FC and also the reason for our existance?
Always thought Augero was slightly over rated. I wouldn’t say he’s crap though. And, in time, he’ll become a better player than Tevez. He’s quicker. Can beat players and can bang them in, with either foot. Surprised, he’s chosen city. I heard Madrid were in for him. How he copes in England, will be interesting.
Papii – Coffee, or tea?
I wouldn’t be surprised if no one at Manchester Citeh even knew who Aguero was! They clearly have no clue about anyone and rely on whoever is being hyped up at the moment, then go in with their cheque books open and think they are doing great business. Then they realise they’ve bought an identical player to one they’ve already got and end up with a disjointed squad with no balance, no team spirit, but plenty of ego’s and a massive wage bill. I REALLY hope they do an Everton and crash out of the Champions League before it even starts. That would make my year!
He must be crap, he chose the bitters!
Papii, I agree Barca are the reason for our existence…..
morning reds were’s The Fly its supposed to be big announcement day.Out of all the rumors coming from twatter any been right?,twatter what a bunch of bollocks,online gossip center,bunch of old women peeping through the curtain
Becks and a bunch of nobodies then…
Willie -
I’ll take a crapachino, with erm some scones and yh do you have any any butter free, sugar free, fairtrade Flapjacks, I’ll take those.
Gotta get the Appletini’s out of my system
Fuck Me, never seen so many bitters listed in one thread. Almost threw up at the first post, the 2nd saw my cheerios barely miss the keyboard. Keep it Red lads, I’ve not the stomach for the discussion of Citeh’s finest scrubs.
BobbyCharlie, top rant.
5 games in 10 years…hahahahah, that’s a laugh.
so fucking a bucket with a hole in it is unusual?
Of course all players city sign are crap.
A unknown fact about United is that Barcelona is its sister club and we regular exchange players since Barca erected Old Trafford in England after the war between Gondor and Sauron’s army but just 5 years before Rohan went Helms Deep for Battle against Sarumans army, Matt Busby was Johan Cryuff’s assistant manager which happened in the same year as Pep Guardiola stepping down as Club president of Manchester United which was later filled by Hristo Stoickov, who left 11 months later on maternity leave to give Birth to Manchester United’s 2011 top scorer Dimitar Berbatov, who by coincidence also happens to be part of the Corleone Family through his fathers side. Michael Corleone was delighted that Berbatov is misunderstood by fans because he struggled to understand how serbian Stoickov had a baby fathered by himself that speaks bulgarian during the great depression of 2008.
How do you like your eggs in the morning
I like mine with a kiss
Boiled or fried?
I’m satisfied as long as I get my kiss
How do you like your toast in the morning?
I like mine with a hug
Dark or light ?
the world’s all right as long as I get my hug
Hope Gill concludes the deal for Sneijderman asap.
My team for the upcoming Barca game (and infact should have been the lineup on 28th in my humble opinion(barring the goalkeeper))
De Gea
Rafael Ferdinand Vidic Smalling
Nani Anderson Park Fabio
Rooney
Chicharito
De gea was still a Madrid player.
Even Fergie couldn’t pull that one off!
Didn’t see that RedHound lol.
@REDHOUND
Smalling at LB?…
No better time for a 21-year-old to put in his first shift in a completely new position than in the CL final against one of the best club sides ever, I suppose.
*Face. Palm*
Seriously when i saw Smalling playing the rightback position in the last game of the season i was too impressed and guessed and hoped that Ferguson was experimenting for the final. And the thing about playing Fabio on the left wing is that you basically have a defensive winger if you will, who will attack given any opportunity. I remember when fergie did something like that in the FA cup victory over Arsenal and people were saying he was a genius for improvising in the face of injuries and all that but i was thinking we may actually have struck Gold that day- especially if you reanalyse the buildup to Fabio’s goal(it reminded me of the years of Ronaldo at his peak when any mistake by the opposition would be latched upon and a quick counterattack would be launched)
I swear I’m gonna get a fucking ulcer if we don’t sign a midfielder in this transfer window.
Call me a sissy but after the woeful away performances last season and now with 2 key players less I can’t help but feel last year will feel like soft serve icecream compared to the prison rape we’ve got coming if we don’t seriously bulk up midfield for away fixtures.
“Has a dog named fifa” lol
REDHOUND – first of all there is no defensive midfielder, and we have enough quality out wide with young valencia and nani, why put one of the da silva twins there
I don’t know the context, and therefore I don’t understand the answer. Anyone know more?
“I’ve never thought about leaving,” Rooney told Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport. “My family and I are happy in Manchester and England.
“I have no reason to leave. Even when I played for Everton, I’d look forward to making the trip [to Old Trafford].”
http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2011/07/wayne-rooney-i-never-thought-about-leaving-england/
He has a cat called Pro Evolution.
So finally the truth is out isn’t it Mr Rooney…!
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/870566-wayne-rooney-hints-he-did-want-transfer-to-manchester-city
You did want to fuck off to deluded bitters..
God….I’m glad that he’s stayed, but I still seethe with anger at the way he betrayed and disrespected this great club and Sir Alex accusing him of lack of Ambition
Sorry Rooney, you may be a great player, but never a legend in my eyes ever.
There’s supposed to be a comma after Sir Alex in the post above…
@smartalex: this is the context – http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/870566-wayne-rooney-hints-he-did-want-transfer-to-manchester-city
Notice how the writer forces in whatever conclusion suited his purpose of stirring up trouble…
@fergie is the boss Fletcher is out right now with that mysterious virus, as he was during the final,unless the claims of signing Yann M’villa or Diarra are true, we dont really have a defensive midfielder for that game.
@Red Devil – I think you’re reading too much into this, and have bought the exact story the journalist is trying to peddle…He might have been okay to go to city, he might not have – this story really doesn’t prove anything to me at least…
From the tour blog:
“After a bit of stretching and some shooting drills, the players are now playing a 12 v 12 game with goals set up on each 18-yard line. Tom Cleverley is acting as a floating player – basically, Tom’s team is whoever has the ball. That means it’s always 13 v 12 for whoever is in possession. The relatively small playing area promotes close control and quick thinking”.
“It was another intense session ending with a closely-fought game, while Rooney, Giggs and Chicharito stayed on after to do some shooting practice”.
@xol – A whole training game revolving around Tom Cleverley? sounds like our coaching staff is looking really hard at Tom filling up the Scholes role!
@Mahesh: Thanks for that link. I agree, the writer is deliberately leading the reader, which therefore implies that Rooney’s statement is being twisted to suit the journalist’s selfish story.
@mahesh
Could be. If anything it’ll sharpen him up, playing that type of game with all those players clogging up the space. Don’t often get to hear what they’re up to in training. I’ve no idea if this type of compact game is normal. The conspiracy theorist in me says they’re addressing the Barca protocol.
at work right now…headed to this game tonight. To see United here in the states in a PACKED small stadium….atmosphere will be great.
@Mahesh
I am not buying anything…..
The writer has just re-iterated what I personally believed all along, that Rooney had been tapped up by City and Mancini..
There are enough indications to that effect, even before this article was written.
I think Scott himslf has put up articles where basically the truth has been deduced by logic and analysis.
I know writers can sometimes be ABU’s…but the truth has a way of coming out of people’s mouths…you can lie for a while, but somewhere you will give yourself away and that is exactly what is happening….
Earlier Rooney has been quoted as saying that if had to move it would have been Abroad to Real or Barca or Milan etc, but the above interview quotes him otherwise…so I dont need anyone else to draw conclusions for me.
Besides, as i already said above, I thank God for him not leaving as he is a fantastic player when on song, but my loyalty and allegiance is to the club, to Sir Alex NOT to Rooney. I can’t and won’t forgive him…its a pathetic way to haggle for a raise, but as long as he is a United player I will support him.
Can you imagine putting in public that your boss is ambitionless, saying that the company is shit, the co-workers are fucking no-good idiots, etc etc and walking out with a doubled pay packet??
As for the future…God only knows
@RedDevil: Fair enough mate – Rooney lost a lot of my respect as well. Just saying the quotes now could just as well be read to say that he’s happy at united and doesn’t think of moving abroad. He might be answering the question without last years context in mind…And really, to a question as it was posed what else could he have said? He could either say no, I’m happy in Manchester/England, or he could have said “oh yeah I’ve been working on my Spanish quite a bit!” Imagine the shit storm that would kick up!
75 posts and hardly a mention of wee Wes….. Another day another victory.
Haha now you’ve done it Cedars
It must be happening
^
Oh wee Wes clique come out where ever you are, I promise to be gentle.
Ive heard anti Berba this and anti Berba that for what seems like an eternity. He doesnt fit into our system and the like. Given the oppertunity this is what Id do.
Keep Berba on and extend contract for another 2 years, so 3 years in all.
He will fit as the No 9 in the 4-4-2 and one of the 3 in the 4-3-3. either centrally or to the left, Id also drop him as an advanced playmaking midfielder (like we did briefly with Yorke) in a 4-5-1.
Id sign Schneider for agreed fee and pay him te 200 000 hes asking for. He will work wonders with Berba in the center of the park.
Id sell Rooney to fund the above and the bringing in of another youngster who would be looking to take some of the burden from Berbatov in the last year of his contract should we decide not to extend.
In my eyes
Carrick, Anderson, Giggs (Park), Berbatov, Scneider, Chico in the 4-3-3
Carrick, Schneider, Young, Valencia (Nani), Berbatov, Chico in the 4-4-2
Carrick, Scneider, Berbatov, Valencia, Nani, Chico in the 4-5-1
Rooney to me crossed the line during all the new contract shit. He also shamed himself which is his business but when combined with the contract saga it just made him look shite. The worst was during the cup final, I saw Sir Alex mouthing that he is the boss at Manchester United as Rooney obviously thought he was much better in dealing with Barca than Fergie was. I still believe that Rooney and his pig headedness was the problem against Barca. I believe he become one too many cooks in a cluttered midfield and when we regained possession Rooney was too deep to pass safely to and offered no outlet causing counter attack after counter attack againsy us. I know hes a good player but like Michael Owen at Liverpool and Gerrard at Liverpool and England he is a work horse style jack of all trades and is extremely difficult to peice into a team if he is not to be the center of attention. I honestly believe we would be better without him and that Scneider and a youngster would be infinately better for the team now and in the long term.
The only problem is this wont happen as billions of pounds of Rooney marked merchandise for the up and coming season has left the warehouse.
There you go Cedars, be gentle now lovey.
Goat
Whilst I tip my hat for you for the obvious effort you put into your post I would have to strongly disagree with your main suggestion, i.e. selling Rooney to fund the purchase of wee Wes. That would be devastating and one of the biggest mistakes the club has ever done. Berba and Rooney are completely different players and we NEED them both. Little Pea is now our goal poacher and him and Rooney seem to have struck a frightening partnership, so what do we do break it and take a risk?
I have made my views on why I do not wee Wes at United and now to even contemplate having him at the expense is just insane.
Anderson on Sky, English coming along, seems happy, hungry, confident. Really good to see.
“This is my first preseason”. THis after 5 years at club! Amazing how the national teams suck our strength. Just like Chicharito this year, missing most of preseason. Come on United.
Has we signed anyone yet??????
at the expense of Rooney that is…………. Not one goes by with out a fucking typo.
That got old long ago^
The wee Wes clique is on the verge of victory.
Bow, or die!
That first bit was for coomy.
Goat
Unless you were taking the piss I would have to use a commonly heard line in moves ‘Are you out of your fucking mind’
of course its aily fail..
but we have a new player to debate on and its Mirko Vucinic..::P
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2019127/Gill-United-sign-player.html
Don’t butt the goat. He is serious.
Sell Rooney to help integrate berba into the squad and buy sneijder? tell me you really must be joking, because i’m totally baffled. Rooney is currently united’s best player, it’s like barcelona selling messi, it would be a massive catastrophe seeing as we don’t have any young similar outstanding player emerging at the club and what, you wanna bring sneijder who isn’t guaranteed to adapt to the premier league or even stay injury free for a long enough time, please
Sell Rooney to help integrate berba into the squad and buy sneijder? tell me you really must be joking, because i’m totally baffled. Rooney is currently united’s best player, it’s like barcelona selling messi, it would be a massive catastrophe seeing as we don’t have any young similar outstanding player emerging at the club and what, you wanna bring sneijder who isn’t guaranteed to adapt to the premier league or even stay injury free for a long enough time, please
Hey guys this is my first blog post.
Here is the squad i think should play vs Barca
De Gea
Rafael Rio Vida Evra
Carrick Ando
Nani Rooney Young
Berbatov
cant wait for tonight’s game, especially to see a true legend coming up against us again.
Any go to the milan game when becks returned? The atmosphere and emotions were incredible.
There’s that blood echo again.
Time people stop clutching unto straws, sneijder is not joining united.
Willie
Have to admire your efforts, you seem to be all alone now.
Not alone. Sleeper cells at the ready.
Yes to sign midfielders.
No to sign Sneijder. No to Nasri for that matter.
I’m sure I’m a rarity in these parts.
Willie
Your lot have gone completely bonkers. What next? Sack Sir Alex immediately and hire Mourinho, he may be able to sign the wee man
100?
You’re just out of rehab.
Bonkers!
Zibbie star dust in the house!
Off with my mum, hair, lunch and a follow up Dr. apt. after my back surgery. Make many post so I can read.
GOAT!!!! love you but I love Rooney more he hurt me to, But he is Man Utd best player IMO… keep them coming…
Cedars
Thanks for going easy on me mate. When Ronaldo was at OT he was great to have and had he not wanted to leave Im sure we wouldnt have sold him, even for 80million (no Glazer crap please). But we have seen the benefits without him as we have more outlets of play and everything isnt just centered around him. Unfortunately I see play becoming more and more centralised around Rooney and I feel it actually stiffles free flowing play. Part fo the reason we lost against Barca was because they had to snuff out one man, they did it effectively and we looked lousy. Not beaten in a good match but just plain lousy.
In regards to the Rooney Chico partnership Id say that this happened because they played together. If Berba was given the oppertunity with Chico then Im sure he could strike up a partnership as could young Macheda or the bringing in of Scneider. I feel that even though the partnership looked good I felt there was still a problem with linking midfield with strike force. I feel he is a hard worker but with very little finess.
Its just an opinion of course but I would. It sorts out the midfield issue. It sorts out the too many strikers issue. It brings in yet another youngster who will not be depended upon but will also have a team space now and then to get the game.
With Rooney I feel we have been drawn into a situation where the team has to fit in with Rooney rather than Rooney fit into the team, the same way Gerrard is for Liverpool. Look how they finnished the season. You could say it was down to King Spenny (lol) but its more likely that jack of all trades Gerrard was out. Ive been saying that for years.
There WILL be another signing!!
I am going to the game tonight….sideline section. anybody else here going?
@Goat
Expect a mundane response from Samuel. It’s coming now, wait for it…
mikekelly12 – Of course there will be mate. I want it now, just to piss off kooky Cedars!
Goat
Firstly lol at the start of your post…….
I agree with Ronaldo the team was centered around him, every ball was played to him at every opportunity and the rewards did not turn out to badly for us trophy wise whilst he was here. Its always in a way been the thing with United (And most teams of course) Best, Robson, Cantona and Ronaldo.. Successful teams will always have a stand out player. I do agree however that comparison between Ronaldo and Rooney in terms of play being centralized around them is an accurate one. Rooney now brings a lot to our play and with Young, Nani & Valencia to supply balls from the flanks then he would be ideal to get on the end of things or alternatively picking up the ball from midfield and threading a killer pass to Hernandez…….. Rooney is also vital when we play on the counter.
I respect your argument and your opinion that you think we need wee Wes but would have to disagree that we do NOT need Rooney…
We need to be patient, it’s coming! Hell, why not throw two signings into the mix?!
Oh for crying out loud………. I do NOT agree with the comparison…..
Fucking idiot
100+ posts and no one mentioned this. – Looks like Scott tried searching for MLS all stars, got bored in somewhere between end of defender list, and just left it with list of MF and forwards…
You all are so busy speculating about Wee Wes that didnt see the obvious. D’oh..
mikekelly12 & Willie
Nice to see you both getting all chummy and cuddly!
@Willie, Poor Cedars does not know what “stealth” is.
Good for you CGL_Red.
Your blue Peter’s badge is in the post.
Don’t get jealous Cedars, will you not join us for cheese and wine later??
Agree with Cedars here, dislike rooney but dislike more the idea of playing without him, he pulls strings at the moment for united on the field…. Also sells most no. of shirts so makes glazers happy.
Balaji – He’s squirming mate. We got him on the run. Fucking his posts up now ha ha.
Cedars
Hell in a perfect world where we thought it was sensible to pay both Scneijders and Rooneys wages and Rooney would keep his gob shut should Fergie bench him for more than one game in a row then Id say yeah sure keep Rooney. But Im realistic on this one. I dont think its wise paying too much in players wages because otherwise you get the City effect.
Hot day all round. I’m off for a cold shower, with Cedars nurse scrubbing my back! Lol.
Laters!
Goat
To conclude your argument, if Rooney stays than we will not sign wee Wes….. Suits me fine!
mikekelly12 – Will have to pass on that one, just make sure the both of you have large wee Wes posters to look at!
@ Goat
Get the logic but don’t like the idea. We’re poised for 20 as we speak, Sneijder or not. Who says Wes pans out? Terrific player but fit for the prem? You’re going all in with a pair of 3s there mate, I’m not risking my stack on those odds.
Willie – if you have something to say, say it mate.. put aside the indirects, i’m here to give my opinion just like anyone, you don’t agree then that’s your problem but hey that won’t stop me giving an opinion.
GoatinaUnitedShirt – it is not rooney’s fault the midfield has not been strengthened, and if this and that, the fact remains rooney and hernandez took their chances when they were partnered and berbatov did not. Like I say, rooney gives united a plan B, if united decided to play one upfront, players like berbatov and even hernandez could not play the one upfront.
Willi – Yaayeeee :p
either way, whether fans agree with each other or not, at the end of the day we all want and hope for the good of united.
Those who dont know me, (I mean, all of you)
CGL – Not better, just an arrogant Red, born in india, living in US, currently following united on their US tour, will be behind the left goal post(from the camera angle) on 5th row.
All you keyboard warriors (this is just to show how arrogant I am), Anyone coming to DC game agains FC Unicef?
ididnotzeeit
Maybe thats where I go wrong mate. Ive bet on a pair of threes many a time. I have a terrible poker face and an even harder time keeping quite. Ive played poker and audible squils can be heard eminating from me. So I concocted a new plane, where I would bet on double 3′s etc as if I had a pair of aces and if I would receive a pair of aces Id chuck them away. Now that confuses the opposition as I squel in delight and then through them away. problem with my method is even though my lack of poker face then becomes the greatest ammount of confusement for the experienced player playing against me, I do usually not win many hand and hence Im brasic. lend us a few bob mate.
fergie is the boss
I get were your argument leads but could you please make your midfield and strike lineups for United with Rooney and a new midfielder in (please name as well) for the line ups involving the “fictionary” 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 4-3-3. Youll see its actually much harder when Rooneys there.
definition: man city
a shitty team wit
1.half of its players not wantin to be there
2.fans who want to be us
3.a stadium wit our name
4.a player named baloteli
@CGL_Red
Coming to DC for the game.
Also going for the All-Star game today.
Giggsy will tear them apart!
AnomanderRake – Currently in Memphis, not sure I will make it to NY in time today…. but see ya in DC!!!
Yes, mate – Giggsy will tear them apart…
Anyway, on the off-note, does united direct sucks always?? I first time orders united shirts from official store puting my LUHG stance aside after seeing we spending approx 50 mn in the summer. I ordered home/away kits on 19th, still not delivered and no chance of it coming before unicef game… United official online store sucks…
GoatinaUnitedShirt – you are contradicting yourself especially when you defend berbatov, who would be the worst player to player to play in a 433 451 etc. Berbatov drops deeper into a midfield than rooney does. I do not think a WS and a berbatov could play in the same team, because of their position, now rooney is better at adopting into different ways of playing, has you have seen when rooney was used on the left to accommodating ronaldo
Rooney + Sneijder is definitely something of a conundrum, given Rooney’s tendency to drop deep. In fact, probably the most effective formation at extracting the best from both of them would be a very unlikely 3-5-2, as follows:
De Gea (GK)
Vidic (CB)
Smalling (SWP)
Ferdinand (CB)
Fabio (LWB)
Carrick (CM)
Anderson (CM)
Sneijder (CM)
Rafael (RWB)
Rooney (FWD)
Hernandez (FWD)
The glaring problem with that being that Fergie’s beloved wingers, and some of our best players (Nani, Valencia, Young[?]) don’t get a look in. Plus Fergie’s never gonna have such a drastic tactical rethink at this stage of his career.
But the point about Sneijder is that top-class players bring with them the trump card of adaptability, and I think Sneijder is good enough to mould his game to a deeper-lying, Modric-eque creative midfielder, which would still allow Rooney to drop back and do his stuff between the lines. I think, with the entirely hyopthetical and admittedly unlikely arrival of Sneijder factored into the equation, our strongest line up would look something like this:
De Gea
Evra
Vidic
Ferdinand
Fabio
Young
Anderson
Sneijder
Nani/Valencia
Rooney
Hernandez
kanchelskis – it will always be 4 at the back, has reason why we have players such has young nani and valencia, now last season when TonyV was injured, a 352 was not a bad system to play, especially has united had bearly no wingers fit
So Bobby Manc saying that Nasri and Sneijder will both stay at their clubs.
@fergie is the boss
Yeh you’re right – 4 at the back it always has been and always will be. Though it’s worth noting that we do have very good wingback options when we need a fallback: Fabio, Rafael, Evra and even Valencia. Reckon Hargreaves could’ve played WB too if his knees hadn’t given up on him
When Rooney was perfecting his shinball techniques, Berbatov was playing the lone striker’s role. Sorry, can’t convince me any other way.
fergie is the boss
Totally disagree with you there mate about Berba and Rooney dropping back. Berbatove will come deep to get the ball or hold the line near the halfway line ready to receive a ball and hold it up untill support comes, granted. But Rooney will come all the way to left back to pick up the ball from Evras toes. Im glad obviously to see Rooney help out defending but I do feel with him that he comes too deep and too often. In one way its good to see another way its infuriating to see no outlet for a midfielder desperate to clear. Berbatov is more diciplined and will listen to Sir Alex. I realise Rooneys going no where Im just saying what I would do. Its too late in the summer anyway to move Rooney. Barba I feel has abilities to come deep and cover Scneijders runs into the box, something I feel Rooney maybe wouldnt ba as diciplined with and will ultimately stiffle Scneijders game.
I dont think I contradict myself as I have a differing opinion of Berbatov than you do.
4-1
GoatinaUnitedShirt – but if berbatov cannot play any other formation other than 442, then it makes united very one dimensional, because the strikers have got to adopt to different formations, hernandez can in the future, but he needs to develop physically, berbatov likes to play off the striker and nothing else, and WS is rather suited to 433, so it makes having both WS and berbatov in the same squad very strange. Rooney tracking back is a quality you cannot buy, and with united’s midfield problems, guys like rooney are even more crucial
United sign Hope Solo…
pLEASE..
I find it quite frankly unbelievable that we have somehow found a way to involve wayne rooney in the midfield issue. Has rooney ever expressed his distaste at someone else coming into the club and earning more than he does? The only people who have suggested this are the useless ABU press desperate to cause ANY discord among personnel in the club. And quite frankly that logic is absolutely stupid and flawed. Was ronaldo not earning more than Wayne when he was here? fine he used a horrible tactic to get more money but do not now judge every single thing he does on that one instance. DAMN.
@Manchuchu ha ha I see good keeper De Gea
fergie is the boss
If you have a 4-3-3 then realistically 2 players play off the central striker. As Villa does on the left for Barca. If you play a 4-5-1 really all you are doing is playing a loan striker with the normal defensive midfielder (Carrick) and two players who are both Attacking midfielders when defending and two center forwards (old No9) when going forward. Another job Berba can do very well I reckon. Look at my formations above at 14:59 and see how they could fit in.
Maybe you could do the same formations but with Rooney in the squad and the improved midfield so I can see where youre coming from a little better.
Hertha Berlin just scored against madrid..Shambolic defending from Mou’s men..
I did say it Samuel! I referenced your name ffs. Agree, disagree, or gives a fuck. You’re right on one thing. We’re all Reds. That’s why this blog is the best. You get a diversity of opinions.
Hey Does anyone know about a certain united reserve player :
Daniel Drinkwater……………has scored in every game for reserves this yr……
http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/united-talks-confirmed-over-15m-spurs-striker-targ?
No way! Let him go to the spuds.
Willie – fair enough, looks like we agree on one thing.Willie – fair enough, looks like we agree on one thing.
CGL_Red – Hello mate, you enjoy yourself buddy. I have just received a text from my mate confirming a ticket for the community shield game against the bitters next month.
Scott, News worthy . . . . just!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/26/europe-top-clubs-fifa-revolt
Goat ius being provocative … but why not? I do think there’s some merit to his argument that the team is increasingly being built around Rooney. I think that became obvious last season, during the fiasco about him wanting to leave. I can’t imagine any other player getting away with that — if it were anyone else, SAF would have simply said, “Right then — so fuck off. Now.” And if any other player had exhibited the dreadful (yes, dreadful) run of performances that Rooney displayed through large parts of the early season, he’d have been banished to the reserves. So it’s obvious to me that the team is built around Rooney. He’s as close to a “sacred cow” as I have ever seen at United.
Berbatov can play center and forward, and did so extremely effectively during the first half of last season. His combinations with Nani (in particular) and Scholes were terrific. I also recall that he played well with Hernandez too, though I didn’t see a lot of them together. It’s long been my opinion that the “problem with Berbatov” isn’t anything to do specifically with him or his style, but simply that the combination of him and Rooney does not gel. I don’t think that’s Berbatov’s fault. Or Rooney’s. I just think it’s fact of life.
For what it’s worth, I think the source of their “disconnect” stems from the fact that they are both unpredictable — but in different ways. Berbatov is unpredictable in how he uses the ball. He always seems to have multiple options, and he has the intelligence/creativity, time, vision and skill to use them. It allows him to sow doubt into the minds of the defenders, and that’s what makes him unpredictable.
Rooney, in contrast, is unpredictable in terms of his movement. He’s “here, there and everywhere”, and that makes him hard for defenders to track. If I was a defender, I would find Berbatov easier to track than Rooney — but I would find Rooney easier to tackle than Berbatov. Unfortunately, the constant, unpredictable movement that makes Rooney difficult for defenders to track, also makes him hard for Berbatov to track. And the unpredictability that makes Berbatov hard to read for defenders, also makes him hard to read for Rooney.
I don’t think it’s a disaster between them, but I do it’s less than ideal.
Dog named ‘Fifa’ = pretty cool lol
StatesideAussie
Loved your post mate and agreed with all of it.
StatesideAussie
But again having to make the choice Id rather a player that makes it hard for defenders but that you can trust will find you with the ball rather than the player that will run at defenders without neccesarily the ability to get past them or hold it up.
I just feel when we look at the squad. Rooney Berba partnership isnt all that. Rooney and Nani seem to get on each others tits and Im wondering if there isnt a common denominator there.
If Fergie sanctions Rooney’s sale now, I’ll be astounded. After going out on a limb and giving Rooney the big pay day, It doesn’t seem a goer. Furthermore, It would make Fergie and the club look indecisive, and very foolish. As to the signing of Sneijder and the impact it would have on Rooney, I think the manger would of thought this through countless times. We can play a formation, that suits both players.
It’s not like, when we signed Veron. We had Keane, Scholes and Butt in those days. IMO, we don’t have the same quality options in CM. We’ve got very good midfielders. Guys, who have played in champions league finals and won countless premiership titles. With the potential arrival of Sneijder, the boss wants that extra bit of quality in there, to supplement the other lads.
Goat … cheers. Of course, the counter-argument will be, “If it’s the combination of them that doesn’t work, one should go — and the one to leave should be Berbatov (if only because of his age)”. Seen that before — because unlike Berbatov himself, or Rooney, the Berbaphobes are thoroughly predictable. And therefore, thoroughly boring.
I don’t think Rooney should go. But I also don’t want to see him become the be-all and end-all of our team. I don’t like being held to ransom — and I don’t like being in a position where we can be held to ransom.
I wouldn’t mind seeing us a try a Christmas Tree formation occasionally — not necessarily as a starting formation, but as something to try during certain matches. With Berbatov at the point, Hernadez and Rooney in behind him and running off him, and three behind them to dominate the midfield area. That would put the Berbatov in a position where we can maximum use of his abilities — he can be a threat himself, or he can bring either of the two into play. But it would also be good use of Hernandez’s strengths (running and ghosting into space) — and Rooney’s too. In this set-up, I’d see Rooney used more as a decoy runner. The defense couldn’t afford to ignore him, so he’d be a massive distraction to them. It would allow him to do his Energizer Bunny routine all day. As a decoy, the chemistry between him and The Berb wouldn’t matter. And it would open up space for The Berb and Hernandez to exploit. It would also put Rooney’s “team-commitment” to the test.
Goat … good point about Rooney and Nani.
@Stateside, Brilliant argument. That brings something to my mind that I’ve been talking about for all summer – Moving Rooney to a mid-field role. NOTE: I am not saying we should play like this next season or that we will – Just hypothesizing here.
I have always thought Berbatov’s best position is where Rooney plays right now – off the striker. He doesn’t quite have the passing range of Rooney to bang balls to either wing but his ability to bring people into play with one-twos and close touches makes him very effective. With Berbatov in that role, we could have a partnership of Berba/Hernandez like the one he had at Spurs with Keane.
Rooney has already shown he has nearly all the qualities that made Scholes’ transformation from striker to central mid-fielder so effective. His passing vision is second to none, he can tackle obviously. He can run like a little terrier and put in tackles better than Scholesy did. Apart from the obvious reason that Rooney’s best position is the one he occupies right now, there is no other explanation to suggest Rooney will not make a good mid-fielder. In essence, he will the Sneijder we all want.
I dream of seeing a United side line up like this:
De Gea
Rafael – Rio – Vidic – Evra
Carrick/Fletcher
Rooney/Anderson (thrown in for good measure)
Valencia – Berbatov – Nani/Young
Hernandez
That way everyone remains happy. The mid-field problem is sorted out. Berbatov remains at the club and gets to play in his favorite position. And we’ve got a very fluid and dynamic formation which is completely unpredictable, where almost the entire top 5 can interchange at will. It will be a nightmare for defenses everywhere and we’ve got a system that is also very hard to crack.
Obviously, this is never going to happen, but it would be awesome if it did.
Hernandez hospitalized with concussion in training
@gerkeo, Damn, you beat me to it. Nothing serious, just seems a mild concussion but the club are not taking any chances.
http://www.manutd.com/en/Tour-2011/Tour-2011-News/2011/Jul/hernandez-in-hospital.aspx?newsid=FC1BBAF2-B4F0-4163-9CAC-C0F708445CB3
Gerkeo … that’s a total bummer. Hope he gets well soon.
Guess this means we better hang on to that useless cunt Berbatov a little bit longer then.
Breaking News!
Little pea knocked out by Berba’s brilliance!
That’s for you Denton.
Balaji … g’day mate. Several on here are in favor of Rooney playing in the middle. I’m in two minds about it. Can see pros and cons. He’d be a very different midfielder to Sneijder, though. I would like to see Berbatov and Hernandez get some more time together. And i reckon those two in front of Sneijder would give any defense nightmares.
So he’s gone into a New Jersey hospital? Guess the club isn’t that broke after all lol
@balaji: first time I beat anyone. Sitting watching skysports constantly drone on about aguero and fabregas
Don’t know if he was going to play tonight anyway but better safe than sorry.
willierednut
I agree with you in regards Rooneys going nowhere now. The signing of Sneijder may way pave the way for Rooney to be offloaded next year. Best to have him in incase it doesnt work out. Id still want to extend Berbas contract though.
Even though Cedars doesnt believe that Sneijder will come Im 100% convinced its a done deal. Fergies very vague denials of interest and very vague response to be interested “NOW”. The accidental fuck up by Nike to show sneijder as a United player just shows its a done deal but everyone is just going though the deal with a fine toothcomb. If the player has decided on United and everyones comfortable with waiting to announce then I dont see a problem. Very interesting mind that Nike has Sneijder down as Netherlands now and NOT Inter Milan as it was a few weeks back before they changed it to United. Wouldnt it have been easier for them to say ooops jumped the boat here return it to how it was before. Most if not all the other players on Nikes site have their CLUB football team logo telling you where they play. Only Sneijders different – Very strange.
anyone have full highlights for the Milk Cup 7-0 win over County Tyrone. I found the goals, but I’d like to see how players like Mats Daehli and playing.
Take that back Ronaldo is put down as Portugal and not Facists so it doesnt have that much to do with things.
Shit news about Chica, he certainly wont be playing tonight and will sit out the remaining US matches. Shame for the US fans as he is a favourite there.
Yeah, it’s a bummer. Wonder if he will be ready for Saturday but concussion is a strange and dangerous thing. Difficult to assess, and the consequences of incorrectly assessing it can be very dangerous. I wouldn’t want to fuck around with him — or any any of our guys. US fans will be disappointed.
@Goat maybe Ronaldo’s coming as well.
See Beckham scoring an own goal in this game, deliberately.
Just reading through the comments and whilst I am a big fan of Little Wes, because he’s a wonderul player and unlike our central midfield he has creativity oozing out of him. However to suggest selling Rooney, who let’s not forget is still by far our best player, to fund the Sneijder deal would be insane in my opinion. We can (and have) funded the money for Wesley so that is not an issue anyway, and Rooney is going to be unplayable this year. He acted like a twat last year yes, and I no longer see him as ‘God’. He could and would have been United’s best ever player, but he’s ruined that all by himself and most fans will never love him like they did. But we can’t sell Rooney, it’s plain mental even thinking about it.
Get well soon Javier.
When are United playing today UK Time ?
Chico probably scored to many backward headers, anyone remember that bullet ronaldo header against Roma that Ko’d him from celebrating.
xol – You just give Joel Glazer a hernia with that suggestion.
Hope he gets well soon. Vamos Chicharo!!
@Stateside, Amen to that mate. I too would love to see more of Berbatov and Hernandez. As you’ve said often, their play styles suit each other a lot. Of course, with Rooney being deemed indispensable, that might not happen as often as it should. We’ll see in due course.
@Goat, That Nike website is not much to go on mate, or so I’ve been told. Apparently, they displayed incorrect information for another player who was nowhere close to a move. However, I still think the Sneijder deal is on for obvious reasons, all of which have to do with the murky statements from both the Manager and Chief Executive. The more and more they delay without making definitive statements, the more and more optimistic I get.
@Papii, The match is at 19:00 EDT which would make it 12:00 midnight UK time I guess.
@willierednut – not if you factor Rooney into the deal lol
@ Clint
2 bells pal
I understand how the people employed to put together Nike’s website might make the occasional botch up, but isn’t saying Sneijder plays for United false advertising?
The game’s 1:30 am UK time.
Get well soon Chicha.
Ah my bad, I was looking at the timing of the Barca fixture for some reason.
This game is at 21:00 EDT which would make it 2:00 AM if I’m not mistaken.
The Fly … do you really see Rooney as indispensable to the club? Because if that’s true, then he can hold us to ransom all day long. Personally, I’ve forgiven him for his burst of swine-fever, mostly because to be honest, I don’t think he’s the sharpest tool in the shed and devious cunts like Paul Stretford are very good at manipulating people who trust them. But there’s also a principle at stake — which is that the club, and the manager, must come first — before any of the players. And I don’t care who they are.
Let me illustrate my concerns through a hypothetical that isn’t that far removed from possibility.
None of us want to see the day SAF retires, but one day he will. Rooney now is 25 — he’ll be 26 later this year. It’s completely possibe that when SAF calls it a day, Rooney will still be at United. While SAF is around, I don’t have any doubt who’s running the club and who’s in charge. But once he goes, I ask myself what it means to the incoming manager, to have a player like Rooney with that much clout in the dressing room? We’ve seen this happen elsewhere — for mine, it’s that cunt Terry has been undermining and destabilizing his managers for years (except for Maureen). Stevie Me is another one with way too much fucking power and influence within his club.
I would hate to see that happen here. But that was my biggest issue with what happened last year — that the minute you cave in to a player like that, then that’s the first step down a very slippery path.
So for that reason alone, I would have told him to go — after extorting the maximum possible cash out of Shitty, of course.
Sir Alex, much to my surprise, decided otherwise. That’s his right, his job, his responsibility. Glad I don’t have to deal with it.
Here’s a tip for anyone who ever needs to convert one timezone to another, or know basically anything about times at any location on the planet, including sun-up/down, daylight saving, moon phases, whatever. Go to http://www.timeanddate.com. Go directly to http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock to see various current times around the globe, or use their conversion tools, meeting planners, or whatever. It’s all free. Only reason I mention it is because I often see people asking about these things.
@Stateside, While your argument is completely true, Sir Alex also has to look at the club’s immediate future and secure it. If Sir Alex had told Rooney to fuck off – which would’ve been the right thing to do – then we would been on a knife edge. We probably would not have won the 19th last season and we would be desperately looking for a replacement right now who is not readily available.
For a long time, I thought Sir Alex was playing it like he did with the Ronaldo situation. Of course, in Ronaldo’s case, he wanted a move and it was granted and we got a shitload of money. In Rooney’s case, it is clear that he wants to stay here now that his wish of a huge paycheck has been granted. Whether Sir Alex will be inclined to sell Rooney right now is anyone’s guess. I don’t think he does and I don’t think Rooney will go also.
However, that is how I assumed it would be at the time. Rooney gets to stay until we find a suitable replacement (Sneijder?????) and then he can fuck off all he likes to a club who is going to pay him what he wants. Obviously, if that is not going to happen, then unless the incoming manager is someone with authority like Mourinho, or someone who is already a United legend like Ole/Scholes/Neville/Giggs/Keane or anybody like that, then player power may just prevail at United.
Balaji … that’s fair enough. Personally, I would prefer to suffer because I did the right thing and it cost me a good player, than let some cunt walk all over me. Imagine SAF had said, “Wayne Rooney is leaving because another club has offered much more money. We have decided on principle to let him go, because we refuse to be held to ransom.” I honestly would have backed him 100% — even if that decision had cost us Number 19 last year.
2am
I prefered the 10pm match then I could go to bed happy and not tired like the one at 2.
Papii – Coffee, is it?
Cold shower, maybe? 
@Stateside, Of course, I said exactly the same thing at the time when people were saying Rooney’e request had nothing to do with money and everything to do with the lack of signings. I said that Sir Alex will ask Rooney to fuck off and will rebuild his team brick for brick. Although immediate success may not be guaranteed, long term success even without Rooney will be under Sir Alex.
And when Sir Alex came out with the interview, I thought that spelled the end of Rooney. But it was just Sir Alex wresting control of the situation from Rooney/Stretford in order to make a deal that satisfies Rooney but doesn’t stretch our principles as a club. That is why I still maintain that the deal Rooney signed is not what he originally wanted but one that was enough to make him and his agent happy.
Yes, in allowing Rooney to stay after he acted like a total dick, Sir Alex may have let go of some of his principles that made him so great. However, as I always say, making decisions like that is exactly why they are managers. Some people (obviously not talking about you) think management is very easy but, in reality, very few of us can even begin to understand the pressures of the job that Sir Alex has. That is why I’m consistently amazed that how well his health is holding up given his age and what he has been through.
I,m so sure Wee Wes is joining us …. I am going to get a tattoo done…….
under a picture of WES, I am gonna put :TOLD YOU SO: ……..
Not really !!
Sunderland are playing at the moment, Wes Brown’s doing a fine job. O’Shea didn’t start the game.
@TonyBee
If Wes Joins mate I will pay for it for you
I got a tattoo of the Titanic on my back. And an iceberg, just below it.
@Stateside @ 19:19, That is exactly what I used to give the time to Papii.
Balaji … it’s a good site, that one. It’s been around for years.
Utd u’17′s dishing out a hiding on tour in Ireland
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14306707.stm
huh Willie …..that’s nothing…I’ve got MAN UTD tattooed on my cock…..
when i get a full hard-on it says….
MANCHESTER UNITED FOOTBALL CLUB CHAMPIONS 2011
TonyBee – Your other half must be over the Roon with that!
@heinnlinn Heard that JOS has an injury. Still miserable he is gone TBH. “Always forward”… that is a motto to live by.
Bobbycharlie. Absolutely belting rant about City this morning mate. Bang on. I detest the cunts. Who the fuck is sanctioning these signings? It sure as hell aint Richard Madely. Fucking fat Gough said tonight Aguero could be the signing that gets City the title. Fuck off you no nowt ignorant bastard. It takes more than oil money and over paid mercenaries to win titles. Ie a top manager. Balance. Young hungry players who love the shirt. Foundations that are solid and not built on fucking sand. Two years from now it will end in tears. Seriously smalltime club who are getting ideas well above their station. I have much more respect for the dippers than these cunts. Rotten from the top to bottom.
Seriously some need to get over the Rooney thing. Yes he fucked up but he stayed and helped us to nineteen. He is happy now it seems to stay at United. I always said if he stays this summer then I will get behind him. Fuck me he aint the first to want more money and won’t be the last. Anyway put simple he is our talisman and best player. On his day he is unplayable. Just watch him this season. He will be on fire. Besides selling him would make us look extremely smalltime. Balance of power and all that bollocks would be the order of the day.
Willie –
Take out please and can I have one of those cup holder things please. 2 spoons of sugar aswell. Ah throw in a sprinkled donut while your at it.
New thread up lads. Chicharito concussion in training yesterday.
Papii – I’ll get that for ya pronto!
No Tip from me
How fucking toothless do Barca look without Messi?