The FA charge for Rafael da Silva because of his reaction to the unjust red card at the weekend was a result of Mike Dean specifically referring to it in his post-match report.
The referee who awarded a penalty against Rafael for a foul on Craig Bellamy outside of the area last season in the League Cup semi-final, made specific mention of Rafael’s response to the decision, which could result in the player missing a total of two games for a red card decision that even opposition manager Harry Redknapp disagreed with.
Players getting punished when they’re in the wrong is fair enough. The fact Dean was wrong to produce a second yellow doesn’t change that Rafael should be punished for exploding like that afterwards, but there needs to be consistency.
Andre Marriner gave no second yellow card to Steven Gerrard for telling him to “fuck off” after sticking his fingers up at him last season. There was no mention of it in his match report either, meaning no charge was brought against Gerrard.
So, we can clearly see there’s an inconsistency between different referees over what they see as “improper conduct”. But is there also inconsistency with the same refs over how they deal with incidents from match to match?
It makes you wonder, why didn’t Dean mention John Terry trying to rip the red card out of his hand after John Obi Mikel was sent off at Old Trafford a few seasons ago? He didn’t book him for it either. This “improper conduct” wasn’t punished in any way.
Dean will set Rafael up for a two match ban but when it comes to a British Bulldog, a courageous captain, a fearless leader, the referee doesn’t believe a punishment is in order.
FA, sort it out!
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Referee fans flames after Rafael red card
Man Utd News 24/7
There is plenty of cosistency they all comply with the unwritten rule to target United.
@Parryheid..
Spot on mate…lol
CLLC terry is untouchable while a young lad from the brazillian countryside is just an expendable piece of meat.. fucking cunts the FA are…wankers..
Scott, don’t you think you ought to get over your John Terry obsession? I appreciate that he has been, and remains, one of the best defenders in the country but I have lost count of the number of articles you’ve written ranting about John Terry did this, John Terry did that.. Anyone would think you had a bit of an obsession thing going on…..
Chelseagirl – One of the best defenders in the country? PMSL. Terry isn’t fit to lace Vidic’s boots.
This is an article looking for consistency in the treatment of the players by the referee. As you can see, Dean treated Terry differently to how he treated Rafael.
Don’t be so precious about it. I notice how you don’t disagree with the point being made.
FA: Fuckin Arseholes
Chelseagirl, fuck off to a Chelski website or even better, go and put the tea on whilst us men speak football. Well said Scott, quiet right. Terry ain’t fit to lace Vidic’s boots.
Simple, The F.A, Ref’s are out to get us.
Mike Dean and Simon Beck are the only people responsible for fact, we didn’t win the league last year. Dean denied us 3 clear cuts pen’s in april then Beck had a wee lil laugh after not flagging Drogba 2 yards offside, costing us the game and the league.
They spent the season before last, trying get Liverpool the title and this year, they doing everything they can, to give it to stockport (man) city.
On another note, i think we should of applaud Scott the Red, a man of great dignity, a man who wouldn’t hide away from the facts.
A real football lad.
Another top class article.
I assume it’s down to the FA to choose whatever punishment they like for ‘improper conduct’. Given that Babel got a £10,000 fine for his improper conduct charge after his twitter rant, I’m expecting that Rafael will get similar treatment? Or not…
The FA can go fuck themselves. We’ll get number 19 despite all the shite referees, biased linesmen, and spurious charges they can throw at us.
We’d rather walk alone.
Chelsea girl is angy ur obsessed with her obsession,she wud probaly love to marry him or be his side dish.
No need to be nasty, petemanc. I didn’t come on here to get into pissing match with you. However, if you really want to get into it, I’ve been going to football for over 40 years and I think I probably know more abuse to throw at you than you do at me.
Scott: I agree that Vidic is a good defender, no question. He was immense against Tottenham (thankfully) but despite your (and others) immense hatred for JT, he is actually a bloody good defender – he’s never been the fastest (no donkey comments please) but his reading of the game is fantastic and by virtue of that, he does defend brilliantly. He’s still one of the best in the country, whether you want to admit it or not.
Re the FA – yes, they are completely inconsistent. Look at the red card Essien got. There’s been far worse tackles since then which have only got a yellow.
There is no bias against MU, not in the media or the FA. I have no idea why you lot always think there is. Rafael deserved to get sent off. Any idiot could see at half time you’d end up with 10 men. He’s a hothead. I would have subbed him at half time and it certainly won’t be the last time he gets sent off unless Fergie cools him down a bit. He hasn’t managed to with Rooney though. He was lucky to stay in the pitch too.
I still think you’re obsessed with JT, Scott. Maybe you could write an article about how St. Steven of Liverpool gets away with it most of the time, or Steven Hunt, or James Milner….
CLLC.. I challenge anyone to hate that complete cunt any more than i do.
There is clearly no consistency and the FA’s match officials should be called into question, particularly when the likes of Gerrard and Terry (just saying the name makes me feel sick inside) walk away scot free without so much as a slap on the wrist. But, it’s arrogant to assume they’ll do anything about it, they never do, particularly in United’s favour.
And the fact that everyone, Harry himself, and all the pundits disagree with Mike Mean’s decision speaks volumes. When the FA ask us to RESPECT the game and show the same to referees, they don’t ‘alf make it difficult on themselves when they allow idiots like that to officiate the games.
Interestingly, just reading Mike’s wiki, the page is dogged in controversy. Strange that eh.
Jose Mourinho is more my style, Dave!!
Nothing new here. The FA are so envious that United are bigger than the FA, bigger than the PL and the greatest, richest and most successful club in all of sports. All the while the FA can’t hire a good national team coach, only qualify about 50% of the time to WC/EC and never ever make any impact in major tournaments.
It will stay this way.
All one can do is win.
There’s inconstency in the same match.. Rooney could and prob should have gone. “F**k of fyou f**king w*nker” i think it was… so it can go both ways.
Mind you.. Saying JT can “read the game” is hilarious. He’s been found out time and time again at international level.. The world cup for instance. Why do you think Jose took Carvalho. Prob cos he’s twice the defender Terry will ever be.
Anyway, back to us…. We get away with stuff we shouldn’t, other teams do too. The only thing i can’t stand is those that are quick to point out all the decisions that go for us then provide deafening silence when it’s obvious some have gone against… Typical ABU’s
Email this link to the FA and see if they have the balls to respond
Am shocked at you Scott that you are asking this. Dont tell me you dont know up till now that Mr Mike Dean is a Chelsea fan. Go and check his statistics
Chelseagirl – i cant believe you just claimed John Terry is one of the best defenders in the country, i could name a dozen ahead of him, have you noticed that carvalho was a much better defender than him? hence why you are leaking so many goals this year..so before you come on to our webiste and try and talk up one of the most pathetic pricks to ever grace the premier league…the only thing good about him is his penalty taking!
You already have Sky. What more of a helping hand do you lot need?
@chelseagal at 11.00 and 11.02 : Can understand Morinho as yr choice,maybe better in bed and loyal.
As for terry ,no obsession from most of us including Scott. Most of us despise him.
Football wise he gets away with a lot thats why when ur competing with a troll like him we get pissed.
U have been into football for 40 years? good.
By the way why r u in here ?
Do u secretly like us Manutd or ur obsessed too?
ChelseaGirl – do want a Blue Peter badge for being a football fan for 40 years?! We are all football fans on here who support our club so it doesn’t make you special thaty you have done the same for your’s. If you read the article correctly, Scott never mentioned questioned JT’s ability, he said he was not fit to lace Vidic’s boots, and rightly so. JT is not in Vidic’s league. Scott pointed out how it’s one rule for English players and a different rule for foreign players until you got your knickers in a twist.
So you have more abuse to throw at me just because you been a football fan for 40 years? Bring it on, let’s start then shall we with the end of all debates and banter – Compare these for me – United’s silverware v Chelsea’s silverware… I look forward to hearing your research results. P.S I have been a United season ticket holder since 1985 – present day and i’m now 31. Yet until today I didn’t feel the need to broadcast it on a Blog like yourself, the difference being I didn’t feel the need to broadcast it on a Chelsea blog like the way you have on a United one. We are all avid supporters on here love so will EVERYBODY GIVE CHELSEAGIRL A MASSIVE ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR BEING A CHELSEA FAN FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS PLEASE, THAT GIRL DESERVES RECOGNITION!!!
@chelseagirl: this blog does peices on lots of guys including the ones u mentioned,if u like us here just spend some time reading up .
Over Forty years?Your a bit hairy arsed to be having the girl in your moniker are you not.
Do you not think that if the self-important pikey twat didn’t get away with murder week in week out he wouldn’t have been mentioned at all?
Chelseagirl Stevie Me has had his fair share of articles written about him. Sadly that kind of simple consistency is not displayed by the FA
She’s United obsessed like 95% of of the rest of the UK Dave Malaysia….
CLAPPING,CLAPPING ,TOES TOO,CLAP,CLAP,CLAP.
Dean is a cunt and xenophobic. There you go.
CLAP CLAP CLAP FOR Chelsea girl. Give that girl a round of applause….
So, basically, Chelsea girl wants credit for being older than some of use – well done, love! Congratulations on being born before the rest of us – what a amazing achievement!
Maybe Rafael should have just posted a picture of Mike Dean in Tottenham shirt on his twitter page – we all know how lightly the FA treat that kind of thing.
@parryheid
Roflmao…thats a second top top comment from you on this thread mate…keep it coming!
Chelsea Girl, JT is just as bad as any miscreant for abusing referees and any ex England captain and captain of his club is worthy of highlighting for his indiscretions.
I quite agree that if Rapael was reported than Rooney should have been too, but that doesn’t take away from how pathetic JT has acted in the past as for him being a quality defender I would agree he is capable but to deny that he cant operate without a more able ball defender is just blindly denying the truth.
Most of us accept that Rio isnt as confident in his game with out Vidic and vice versa, most of you Chelsea balloons think JT is the best defender in the PL (Captain, Leader, Legend how cringing is that) Just have a look how short he came up in the WC against Germany and how is performances have been no where his percieved best since Carvahlo left, he’s suspect to pace on the turn and cant deal with small mobile players, you’d think if you’d been a fan of 40 years you would have worked that out for yourself.
Well said Red Beard. (I’m stood on my seat at Old Trafford as we speak giving her a massive round of applause for 1 – being older than me and 2 – being a Chelsea fan for 40 years!) Hat off to that woman.
Just a thought, but if Rafael does get a two match ban – couldn’t we just put him in Fabio’s shirt and play him anyway?
Does Fabio do a good impression or a right back
Christ, petemanc, why don’t you go and make the tea, love? Old ladies like me should be putting our feet up and doing the knitting nowadays not running supporters groups and campaigning for better conditions for fans. Oh, and waxing our hairy arses (thanks for the idea, Mr. Parry (any relation to Mike?)
Thanks for the applause boys: didn’t want you thinking I was a JCL who only appeared after my club was successful. Clearly, you don’t suffer from that at United, having supporters from…err…Malaysia. Seen lots of matches at Old Trafford, Dave? Bet I’ve been there more times than you. I have no interest in comparing trophies – too much success breeds arrogance, an inability realise that what goes around comes around and you become totally paranoid about victimisation apparently….
Nice chatting with you lovely, friendly, manc boys – I’ll leave you to wallow in your paranoia now.
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if City won the league?
terry one of the best defenders? ha, my toes are laughing. disgrace to football. I’d think vermaalen( can’t spell it damn) is a million times better. And i’m not even bring our ROCK into the scenario, cos if he shouldn’t be insulted by doing so.
It’s obvious Dean hates United. Even last year Fergie commentated after a match ‘Well I was worried when I saw we had Mike Dean’.
I love the way that United are made out to be the only side that harasses Ref’s but it’s the same up and down the country no matter what league you are in.
On the ‘Improper Conduct’ charge – What annoys me more is that it’s dished out without any form of consistency. Remember Gerrard flicking the V’s last year and nothing happened!
It would be even more Hilarious if Chelsea won the League…. Good luck in The Europa Cup next season. Looks like ChelseaGirl can’t stand the heat…
Dean is a Chelsea Supporter if you already didn’t know. The FA was also wrong to give him title deciding matches as he will always favour Chelsea in any situation. I am suprised many people are unaware of this. Disgusting!!!!!!!!
@Chelseagirl at 12.13: Aww girl,i bet u have been to old trafford more times than me too. So does that make me what, supporting Manutd most of my life , spoilt or what?
Talking about arrogance, I wrote about that long time ago. Manutd do not do arrogance,we have had our share of downfalls.U shud know if its true its been 40 years of football for u.
Chelsea are an a classic example of arrogance,a different culture to ours.
The way yr players surround the referees ,angry that the ref did not get the memo on who they are and what the fuck does he think hes doing,ur suppose to kiss our butts.
U dont see it and if u do i bet u ignore it,next time tell your chelsea club not to bribe asian football
officials to get prefered treatment over here in asia. Cos me thinks 99% of chelsea supporters have never been to stamford bridge. I bet .
U poor london lady,put yr feet up,enjoy yr delusions, and bet with malaysian chelsea supporters,”i bet ive been to stamford bridge more than u.
Take care,dun let terry the bed bug bite yr hairy ass.
well Mike Dean has taken it to a whole new level this time. after costing us the title last year and consistently targeting united players since he became a proffessional referee he does this? now i’m happy rafael told him off. he’s a bloody knobhead. and i would like to have a one on one talk with Mike Dean and give him a peace of my mind. fucking idiot.
Mike Dean eat shit.
its a biased, broken,out of date system,from the way the game is offciated to the punishments dished out by the fa.the ref is a incompetent fuck at best or something more sinister and rafael and rooney will now have to pay.just gets me mad its all a fucking joke.
Chelsea girl. You talk about our fans from Malaysia that’s fine. That’s what happen when your club is successful and has world wide appeal due to our history and continued success. Chelsea would love a Malaysian fan or two. You’re just riddled with jealousy. Has that twat Kenyon turned you into one of the worlds greatest clubs yet? Are you up there with the madrids and barcas of the world yet? Bayern Munich are a bigger club and their leagues shite. You are a club on the decline! You squad is knackered and Romans piggy bank is getting raided while he’s being shafted by Putin for 2018. He could care less about you scum now. Now let’s get back to our ‘malaysian’ fans because I can you they won’t be cheering on a rival when the chips are down. How many Chelsea fans will turn a few shades of lighter blue in the next month. You’re scum, you’re shit, classless, done. Chelsea FC 2005 – 2011.
P.S your captain marvel is a skip rat who stabs his best friend in the back, he’s born of a coke dealer and a thief. His brothers actions forced a man to take his own life. Fine that’s not football related but that’s your hero, your goldenboy, your captain marvel. I bet if that city opportunity came again he’d not let the sleepless nights stop him from going. It’s ok though chelseagirl because it won’t. He’s not good enough.
Chelseagirl – Have to agree with you that CLLC JT is one of the best at taking penalties:) Worthless at everything else unless you need help finding a coke dealer
@Chelseagirl, who said: Wouldn’t it be hilarious if City won the league?
You’ve given up on your team eh? You go girl….. ;>)
Sorry, but I don’t buy this. You’re asking for consistency, and referring to something Terry did years ago. Talk about consistency – fine (I’m sick of the awful refereeing in this league too). But why does this have to be about Terry?
What’s more, you’re conveniently ignoring your own players’ indiscretions: for example Wayne Rooney very clearly calling the referee a ‘fuc*ing wa*ker’ at the weekend. No mention.
I’m a Chelsea fan, but not the biggest fan of John Terry. Most of the criticism levelled at him is absolutely fair and deserved. But regardless of what the average Utd fan might think (‘not fit to lace Vidic’s boots’, above), he is, and has been, a very fine defender indeed. Suggest you find a better reason to have a dig at him next time.
Also love the comments about Chelsea being arrogant, surrounding refs etc. What Utd games are you watching?! Yours are still the players with the biggest chip on their shoulder at the merest sign of a decision against them. Chelsea however have cleared up their act on this front under Ancelotti. I haven’t witnessed one single surrounding of the referee in the way described under Carlo – anyone watching any of Chelsea at all this season or last would recognise this.
What do they say about people in glass houses? Well, they’re Utd fans…
Anyway. Good luck for the rest of the season – think the title is yours. And I’d back you over City or Arsenal any day.
Terry was wrong, no doubt. But bringing up Terry to deflect criticism from your own players seems a little childish. Especially as the FA Respect campaign started in 2008, a year after Terry did that. Both players should have been warned of course, but Rafael (and Rooney) were foolish doing it even after the media is going crazy about it.
Another good letter printed in the mailbox on http://www.football365.com from Scott
Fair play lad, keep up the good work
“i cant believe you just claimed John Terry is one of the best defenders in the country, i could name a dozen ahead of him, have you noticed that carvalho was a much better defender than him? hence why you are leaking so many goals this year”
Eh? Carvalho was a liability for us last year if you’d watched us. Our first choice was Alex and Terry. But of course it’s always Desailly/Gallas/Ivanovic/Carvalho/Steven Watt/My Pet Cat who makes Terry look good. No he’s completely shit and part of the joint best defence in the league (notice that, we still have the best defence along with you and Shitty despite playing shit), so Terry must be doing something right. Like Chelseagirl, I probably wouldn’t ever comment here if you didn’t come back to Terry every 2 days. Either there’s an obsession or your ignoring other idiots like Stephen Hunt, Gerrard etc
Personally I would not replace Vidic with any defender in the world at the moment. Terry? good defender no doubt but like most people I simply hate him as a human being
Well said; I’ve noticed that English referees are afraid to book big-name players with big-name reputations but they can’t wait to book players who are less well – known; it’s a lack of personality on their part and it’s up to the FA to sort out the entire referee/ discipline issue before it destroys the game.
@Cedars,
He is not a human being, mate.
Jed – considering the F.A Respect Campaign did began in 2008 should’t the F.A also be “Kicking Racism Out oF Football”? What bloggers on this website discuss is the corruption in English Football because the media turn a blind eye to what these referees really are. Look at the facts, blue eyed English boys Rooney, Gerrard and Terry get away with the same rant Rafa did yet get no punishment. We do wish The F.A would practice what they preach and “Kick Racism Out Of Football”
mike dean is just 2 biased against Manutd
Lol @ Redbeard
“Just a thought, but if Rafael does get a two match ban – couldn’t we just put him in Fabio’s shirt and play him anyway?”
Loved that. And distinctly cunning!
Champions League Loser CUNT. The FA are English football’s biggest joke. Why haven’t England won the world cup? Because the FA are inept, incapable and a complete mess, when you let an all consuming, sexually diseased, morally corrupt massive CUNT become England captain…well, don’t need to say more do I? And the FA try to make an example out of United because they are full of cockney fucks who can’t get over the fact that Arsenal never win.
UNITED>england
UNITED>the shitty FA
GIGGS SCHOLES AND NEV>the massive cunt that is terry
We’ll never die
@ Jed,
Let’s, for one moment, assume that you’re correct and that Terry is not shit. Let’s assume that he is, in fact, more mobile than a pet-food factory and that his parents are not sub-human criminal scum. Let’s also assume, for the sake of argument, that we are obsessed with him.
Does that, in turn, mean that he is entitled to take the red card out of a referees hand without any fear of recrimination?
Does the fact that the best years of Rafael’s career are ahead of him, rather than a quickly fading memory, mean that he should be booked for doing something that JT does so often, it appears to come to him more naturally than fucking his best mate’s missus or parking in handicapped spaces.
Stop deflecting and address the issue at hand. If you’re not going to do that, I suggest you leave us alone start brushing up on your Man City trivia, I assume that’s who you’ll be supporting once Roman decides he’d rather own the Chicago Cubs.
@ Redbeard
I stand corrected mate! lol
@ ScholesforGoals,
Cheers mate
@Redbeard Now now, if I was going to support another team it’d be Man Utd, certainly they appear to be the most supported team where I am in Kent…Anyway, having started supporting them during the Porterfield days finishing 4th is still amazing for me!
I know Terry is scum. That’s not hard to see, but he’s still a damn good defender- or are Mourinho, Scolari, Ranieri, Hiddink, Ancelotti all wrong? Of course he wasn’t entitled to take the red card away (and should have been punished)- but I’m just saying that in the post “Respect” era it’s even more foolish to show open dissent to a decision. I’m certain that if this had been a Chelsea player you’d be praising the ref for having balls. And what on earth has Rafael’s age got to do with anything
Chelsea fans getting it on this thread, the Spuds getting it on another thread. We just need the bitters and the dippers to turn up and we’ll have a full house.
Are United appealing the sending off since it wasn’t a straight red card?
@ Jed – The age thing? Well, i would have thought that was obvious.
Rafa is still young at the game, inexperienced and doesn’t know better. Terry – with his expertise and age shouldn’t be displaying such immature and pitiful behaviour. The Chelsea and former England captain, is surely better disciplined than that?!
Hope that clears things up for you.
@ScholesForGoals
Ah fair enough, I read it in the wrong way :S !
Scott the Red – To comment on the incident you accused “Chelseagirl” of avoiding; John Terrys action regarding the Red card cannot be condoned but it also cannot be compared with Rafael da Silvas reaction at the weekend. The respect campaign has since been introduced and the referee’s focus and priorities have always been subject to change each season. You can’t, therefore, claim inconsistency on that basis.
Before your fellow supporters subject me to the sort of abuse aimed at “Chelseagirl” can I just say that I picked up this blog from “Newsnow Chelsea” and I’m not visiting this site due to any obsession with United. On the topic of abuse, is your site monitored in any way? The language used by a number of posters (too many to list) does nothing other than highlight how inarticulate they are.
@ Jed
I wouldn’t say Mourinho, Scolari, Ranieri, Hiddink and Ancelotti were all wrong. I would, however, say that they were all acutely aware, and wary, of the influence Terry seems to have, both with the ownership and with other players. He clearly has an over-inflated view of his own importance (World Cup press conference ?) and is not above causing problems when he doesn’t get his own way.
The reason I mentioned age is because it seems clear to me that Terry is, at this point, relying on a reputation built up 5-6 years ago. I also feel that Rafael’s reaction can, in part, be attributed to the impetuousness of youth, something that will disappear over time.
You say, “I’m certain that if this had been a Chelsea player you’d be praising the ref for having balls” – not if the sending off was as ridiculous as Rafael’s, I wouldn’t.
Fair enough, you admit that Terry was wrong and should have been punished, but that was the very point of Scott’s article – the fact that these rules are enforced inconsistently. It appears then, that you agree but still accuse us of being obsessed with Terry. As I said earlier, if Terry didn’t get away with blue murder every bloody week, he probably wouldn’t have been the subject of an article to act with impunity while the media pursues its constant witch hunt of highlighting every indiscretion committed by United and every contentious decision that goes in our favor while ignoring the wrongs of others and decisions that go against us articles like this will continue to appear on this website.
Ferguson was criticized in the media for not mentioning the referee post-match, and you think we’re obsessed? Another Chelsea fan was on here saying she wanted City to win the league, and you think we’re childish? Come on, mate!
“The language used by a number of posters (too many to list) does nothing other than highlight how inarticulate they are.”
I thought Mary Whitehouse was dead!
ur a fuckin prick mike dean. BALD ASSHOLE!!
bridgeviews – It’s not about Terry, it’s about Mike Dean. Isn’t that obvious? The same referee reported one incident of “improper conduct” and didn’t report another. Come on, it’s a very simple concept.
As for ignoring Rooney, he was cautioned for his reaction. No punishment was given to Terry for his reaction, which is why he wasn’t mentioned in this. He wasn’t reported but he was punished.
Regardless, I’ve addressed the Rooney issue here: http://therepublikofmancunia.com/picture-rafael-vs-terry-gerrard-rooney-carragher-and-wenger
@ Norman.
It is laughable and inaccurate to suggest this site and it’s participators are wholly abusive. I have visited many Chelsea blog sites in the past and find them to be on-par with the execution of insults and character assaults. Let’s not take the higher ground by discussing ROM visitor prejudice.
We are assessing a particular and alleged role model and how his (countless) misdemeanours have gone unnoticed, it is right to expect some harsh criticism. Don’t like it? Then feel free to commit your opinions to a post card and post it somewhere where it’ll be appreciated.
Clearly, such reviews within the FA (by season) now cruelly penalise individuals for innocuous and innocent moments, yet bizarrely overlook some of the most poignant, controversial and outrageous examples of professional behaviour, vis a vis, Gerrard and Terry. It is my sentiment therefore that the right review process isn’t being undertaken.
@ ScholesforGoals
Well said!
Norman – So, according to your logic, If your well spoken and not cussing, you make a more valid point? That’s bollox mate. I’m sure all the Chelsea fans you sit around at the Bridge, never cuss. In fact, I’m quite sure there all well spoken mate. Freedom of speech is not a bitch, It’s your right Norm!
Hello, I am a Chelsea fan and love my club by heart.We’re obviously going through a dip in form but i am loyal to my club no matter what and I guess thats the same with any supporter from any club, you stick to your club otherwise its just gloryhunting.Terry can piss me off sometimes, gets too aggresive, but i think its the passion he has for Chelsea and grew up with the club much like players and fans of all clubs sometimes always take ref decisions to personal
ScolesForGoals – I wasn’t suggesting that this site and it’s participaters are wholly abusive just that a large number seem incapable of constructing an arguement or debate without resorting to unecessary personal abuse.
I thought the blog was aimed at discussing the suggested inconsistency of refereeing and the FA which is what I commented on. The fact that it somehow digressed into all things bad about John Terry, in the manner that it did, says more about those participating than it does the man himself.
Whilst we may disagree on the subject matter, I do thank you for your well constructed and articulate response,
Redbeard – You are correct, Mary Whitehouse is indeed dead.
Chelsea Girl – Tell me. How did your PR tour of the states go? It didn’t did it! No cunt was fucking interested in the rentboys.
Willierednut – Not quite the point I was trying to make but there is an element of truth in it. If an arguement is well constructed and you’re not being abused it tends to hold more value as you have respect for the person voicing the opinion.
On that note it’s time for me to leave you gentlemen.
King Eric – I rest my case.
@King Eric
Do you mean the 65,289 who watched us in Seattle, the 81,224 who watched us at the Pasadena Rosebowl or the 70,000 sell out crowd in Baltimore? No, “no cunt was interested in the rentboys”, but plenty of Americans were interested in Chelsea.
Norman
What you seem not to understand is that the internet (maybe you still call it the information superhighway?) actually constitutes a significant democratization of mass communication. What that means is that rather than restricting the ability to express their opinion to a broad audience to pretentious middle-class snobs (a group which your posts suggest may well include you), everyone is now free to participate in two-way interaction on a global scale. This, in turn, means that nasty, dirty working-class northerners are able to resist the unrelenting torrent of sycophantic adoration heaped on social miscreants by traditional London-based media outlets by calling John Terry a pikey cunt if that is how they feel.
Of course, some condescending parvenus will try to stifle this resistance by referring to the articulation and grammar of the peasants, but the fact remains the internet affords them the right to opine and affords their opinions equal validity to those of the braggarts trying to silence them. If, as it appears, you are uncomfortable with this, then I suggest you restrict yourself to more tightly controlled media vehicles (broadsheet newspapers for example) and leave the rest of us alone to insult your clubs captain in peace.
ChelseaGirl still on here chatting shit. EVERYBODY – CAN WE ALL HAVE A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO CHELSEA GIRL FOR STATING SHE HAS SUPPORTED CHELSEA FOR 40 YEARS! Hat off to you love. (Claps, cheers and wooping)
@ Chelseagirl
Haven’t you got cats to feed or something?
Redbeard, i fucking i, We salute you Sir. Now that is a statement to conquer all statements. RED ARMY!
Norman I hope you don’t try talking down to Mr.Grimsdale about his articulation,most of the poster’s on here are red top readers and therefore inclined to be earthy but grounded and don’t take kindly to some Twat pontificating about their manners so Bugger of.
Lol (again) @ Redbeard. You have made me laugh the hardest today with your responses on this particular post. Stellar stuff good Sir!
Chelseagirl – Go away.
@petemanc, Scholes…
Cheers
Scott – of course I understand your argument. And it stands. But my point there was more that there are any number of (probably more serious and recent) inconsistencies that you could have pointed to, but you chose to root back through the archives to have a go at Terry.
Now you’re a Utd fan and it’s a Utd blog – I’m not expecting a JT love in. I get it. But anyway.
Also just wanted to respond to some of the extraordinary myopia (and unnecessary aggression) in some of the other comments.
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Bridgeviews
Do you not think that one reason the Terry incident was referred to was because, rather than the fairly standard shouty-sweary thing, this was a player displaying such arrogance as to think he can decide to whether or not a player gets sent off and that he is of such status that he can take a card out of a referees hand? It was certainly a unique incident, if only in terms of the shocking level of conceit on show, and it was the same referee so I think the reference is more than valid.
You say that you want to respond to the aggression of some of the other posts – I’d like to respond to your fans singing “You should have dies in the tunnel” at Ronaldo – aggressive, no?
@bridgeviews
As is already abundantly clear here, this is not solely limited to Terry’s previous indiscretions, it just so happens that previously, dissent is a popular pastime of your Captain, Leader, Legend… And for us, in comparison, to challenge a fairly innocuous incident does not warrant the kind of treatment Rafa received. Rooney’s involvement and knee jerk reaction was also not exemplary but one borne out of an incredibly frustrating situation that – (according to Jamie Redknapp’s punditry) “had Dean taken a moment or two to reflect and consult with his officials”, then the stupid debacle could have been needlessly avoided.
Irrespective of the sands of time that have elapsed since previous yet similar reactions that have ensued, the Reds were dealt the short straw on Sunday, and we see neither the FA or refs themselves take accountability for such mistakes, particularly when there are other key player figureheads, i.e. Captains behaving shamelessly and not being penalised accordingly.
Anyway, the point has been banged home to death. JT is an ‘instantly recognisable’ example of situations where justice hasn’t been served previously – above and beyond most others. If someone talks to me about locking family members in the basement for example (albeit a weird conversation to ever have), immediately you think of Fritzl. A shit analogy, granted. But it’s appropriateness in terms of association is still relevant. THAT explains the berating of arguably your best defender in years…
We get plenty of firsts, such as our opposition getting fined for fielding a “weakened” side, frivolous appeal of a red card, and now, a second charge for being agitated over a second yellow card which was truly contestable.
We’ll never see those charges happen to any other side!
The FA, like most FAs in the world, are never truly fair.
I just hope we win it amidst all this biasness. And all these blind linesmen and ABU referees get replaced sooner than later.
Chelsea Girl by saying how funny would it be if City won the league you display all the self awareness of a Stoke fan, we fully understand the impact of the bitters winning the title but get this it means as much to you as it does. While city maybe our cross town rivals I for one could not really give a fuck who wins the league if its not us and that includes Liverpool or Arsenal or even your lot and why is that, simply because it means we are not top of the tree.
I’ll put it even more simply for you if Arsenal or Spurs (or Fulham as I think they are you nearest geographical rivals) won the league at your expense who where in with a chance I wouldn’t use that as a means to try and wind you up, why beacuse if its not us beating you I couldnt give a toss.
And you should also know its ok to be a fan of a club wherever you live where there is a distinction is being a supporter who attends games why you feel the need to belittle Malaysia Dave is so small minded and I have to wonder if you’ve been to our ground OMG what a waste of a ticket.
I’m having a good laugh on here today reading all these comments from the spuds and rentboys/girls (thats for you Chelseagirl, so you can tell I’m not sexist lol) Its great entertainment reading the banter!! Oh and Utd fans aren’t arrogant, we’re just better!!
I think all the Chelsea fans have gone off now to mope about the fact that their pathetic club can no longer attract players of the calibre of Stephen Pienaar!
And apperantly he’s on 5k a week less at the Spuds
simple…Rafa’s a brown boy…England for the English!
I’m not worried Rafael is probably gonna miss 2 matches for us. I’m actually worried that Gaz is gonna play 2 matches for us.
hahaha Scott, you have to accept it.. We are just too good that the FA has to apply different treatment to us. We are on another level.
Just take it as a compliment hahahahahahahhaa
Not Arrogant, Just The Best.
Chelsea Girl – That is a lie those figures you give and you know it. United’s tour of the US saw the biggest EVER attendance for a game of Football and it was seventy odd thousand. 80 odd thou in the rosebowl my arse.
A nice article Scott the red. Its something that everyone can see, if you aint english (british) you are thrown to the dogs.
And for all the chelskis coming on this blog, claiming this and that about our need to talk shit about CLL; why the hell you on here? its realy that simple, if you cant stand our anger towards terr… blah, his name makes me get sick, dont bother reading! And dont missunderstand that, i dont think to many of us realy care if CLL is a “good” player or not, its him, the cunt we just cant stand!
Personaly i can understand Rafs frustration about the sending off, and he had every rigth to be pissed when shown the second yellow, which i think was wrong.
Also this article is about the “ref” Dean, not CLL or Stevie V, or any other shit cunt. its about the love that dean has to use his authoroty to piss on foregin, dare i say it, united players.
@ Redbeard
lol about Rafael, I was planning for this since he and Fabio first came to OT. I think the curls should be adjusted to rafa’s style a bit more though
I feel I will be crucified for this but here it is. Rafael deserved his second yellow and his sticking his mug in Mike Deans face after the incident was an embarrassment to the club. It is clear from the photos that Rafael was discussing the timing of Mr Deans next visit to an optical specialist. Not as some on here seem to imply a discussion of his choice of eye liners.
Intentional or not, their man was at speed and penalties have been awarded for less. Complain all you want, there was contact and it could have led to an injury. Once awarded, no way in this world would the card have been rescinded. United were correct to accept the charge and move on. That said. I love the lad Rafael and think Mike Dean is a disgrace to football. Wish he would not be assigned to United games as the man just can’t seem to grow up. Hope Rafael enjoys his day off and comes back strong for Southhampton or Villa
@at 16:12 Redbeard:
You sir are a class apart. Thanks for lifting my day.
@ Chelsea girl
since when do Americans watch football? They don’t even call it football
or maybe, your owner tipped them with his cash to wear chelsea shirts and act like real fans, possible!
FletchTHEMAN
I will join you on Calvery Hill.
Your post at 20:11 is exactly right.
From the moment he launched into the tackle of the first yellow this path was written. I felt it in my bones. The second yellow wasn’t deserved, so Raphael asked for it by jogging into the back of Assou-Ekotto with his palms facing the sky. Gary Neville wouldn’t have done that on a yellow.
OK, last post on this thread to clear up some things:
1. I said it would be hilarious of your noisy neighbours won the league – I didn’t say I wanted them to. I understand the small town, two club mentality – Liverpool has the same problem.
2. US tour attendance figures: http://www.epltalk.com/chelseas-us-tour-is-a-preview-of-39th-game-9535. Highest ever attendance for a US tour by a PL club. Sorry to disappoint you.
3. I’ve fed my cats, thank you.
Love, Chelsea “not as young as I used to be” Girl.
Good manners Chelseagirl. That’s what I like to see, a woman with a bit of pluck.
Ok Chelsea fans, just a couple of points.
It’s our opinion as United fans that John Terry is not half the player he is hyped up to be by the massively biased London based press. He always looks good alongside a World Class defender (a young Dessaily, Gallas, Carvalho, Ferdinand) but looks as lost as my alzheimer’s ridden grandmother when alongside a “lesser” defender (an old Desailly, Ben Haim, Alex, Upson, Lescott), any coincidence Terry’s form has so dramatically vanished in the last two years, when he has been without Carvalho or Ferdinand because of their injuries?
It’s your opinion that he’s been a World Class defender in this time, one of the very best in the world.
Great, you have you opinion, and we have ours, thats football. In the last 15 years we’ve had to continually hear other fans tell us Beckham, G.Neville, Cole, Ferdinand, and Rooney are all over-rated, so be it, we disagree but everyone’s entitiled to their opinion.
Point 2:
Scott’s last couple of articles are not about Terry, they are about refereeing and in particular Mike Dean, Terry just happens to feature.
Lets say that in Sundays game Vidic had led with an elbow into someone’s head, leaving them comatose on the ground, and Dean had booked him. In next weeks game Dean is ref for Chelsea, and Terry leads with an albow leaving someone comatose on the ground, and Dean sends him off.
I’m sure you would all be asking “why didn’t he send Vidic off?” I’m equally sure that a Chelsea blog would have a story asking why Dean found Vidic’s elbow different to Terry’s.
That wouldn’t be you lot being obsessed with Vidic, it would be you using an example involving him to make a bigger point about how much of a cunt Mike Dean is, as Scott has here.
And as he has mentioned, it’s not just Terry. Gerrard, Rooney and Shearer all get away with pretty much anything they want, as they are English, but Johnny foreigner gets brough up on charges for lesser events, then the FA talk about anti-racism!
@ ChelseaOldLady
I’d rather live in a ‘small town’ like Manchester than get stabbed outside a kebab shop in London.
@Chelseagirl…
Yes it would be hillarious if shitty won the league…the premier leagues value would go down…
But that wont happen…so we are not really bothered with it…
Now if you have been at football matches for 40 years…and still think Terry is a world class defender, then I am sorry you were blowing someone and not watching the game.
There was a mention earlier of Carvalloh…very good example…Ancelloti was a fool to sell, him and Jose was right in taking him…He was a much better defender that Terry…now w/o him your team is leaking like you used once…
Luckily for us there is a special rule for brittish players. Otherwise Rooney would see far more games from the stands. The same goes for Fletch and Rio.
Captain-superfantastic-plastic-KeepingTeammatesWifesWarm-SonOfAShoppliftingMotherAndADrugdealingFather thug Terry has seen his best days and it is great news every game he starts for Chelsea. He and his ego is their biggest liability and their biggest threat to a top 4 position.
I wonder what he does to boost himself up with confidence week in and week out. Maybe his dad nicked his telly to get some drugs so he can´t see his recorded perfomances.
wow this is so funny… even after being statistically proved last year that ManUtd benefit the most from referees in time added (remember Owen vs ManCity?) and knowing yourself the extent of pressure Sir Alex puts on referees every time he speaks, you still have the decency to ask questions of referees’ consistency. Remember the penalty given last season at OT vs. Liverpool when Valencia was clearly fouled outside the box and the match vs. Chelsea referred to in this article was clearly a case of referee leaning toward ManUtd (an unjust red card for Mikel and then the first goal going more than a minute after first half added time – after the injury time went out, ManUtd took a corner, which was cleared to the half-way line, but the referee let the ball come back and Tevez scored)…
These Chelsea fans are incredibly delusional. That said, Mike Dean and John Terry are half brothers.
You comparing John Terry with Rafael? Obviously the chelsea and then england captain will hold more sway than an upcoming player like Rafael.
Some are more equal than others!
@ triggerhappy
Captain-superfantastic-plastic-KeepingTeammatesWifesWarm-SonOfAShoppliftingMotherAndADrugdealingFather thug Terry
one way to say his name, and probably the most correct one!
there’s chelsea girl who is jealous cos they dont have fanatic supporters from Malaysia…
lol enjoying the comment…laughing…terry best defender,,,lol…calvaro..do the dirty job whilr terry just stay at the back hanging ball down……like united vidic di the dirty job whilr rio cover up ….vidic still the best as far am concern i choose vidic number 1,,,,cant you see how chicharito wanted to break his backbone in the community shield….he is not use to it…..one united cant u see our logo
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