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	<title>Comments on: Why Spurs Point Is More Important Than We Can Measure</title>
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		<title>By: Raptor</title>
		<link>http://therepublikofmancunia.com/why-spurs-point-is-more-important-than-we-can-measure/#comment-2538</link>
		<dc:creator>Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the Setanta TV commentaors thought that Hargreaves take down was a blatant pentalty kick so UTd were still fairly punished.  You are right about Utd getting calls too and that&#039;s the nature of football.  However, the call that should have been made , over any other call in the game, was a red card for Nani for his dirty &quot;over the top, studs up&quot; tackle on Cimbondra that could have broken his ankle!  - if Clatterhead had had the &quot;b*lls&quot; to make that one it&#039;s game over yet Clatterhead, every Utd fan, and Lord Fergie, somehow didn&#039;t see that one!!!!!  I guess as they say &quot;Love is blind!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the Setanta TV commentaors thought that Hargreaves take down was a blatant pentalty kick so UTd were still fairly punished.  You are right about Utd getting calls too and that&#8217;s the nature of football.  However, the call that should have been made , over any other call in the game, was a red card for Nani for his dirty &#8220;over the top, studs up&#8221; tackle on Cimbondra that could have broken his ankle!  &#8211; if Clatterhead had had the &#8220;b*lls&#8221; to make that one it&#8217;s game over yet Clatterhead, every Utd fan, and Lord Fergie, somehow didn&#8217;t see that one!!!!!  I guess as they say &#8220;Love is blind!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kramer</title>
		<link>http://therepublikofmancunia.com/why-spurs-point-is-more-important-than-we-can-measure/#comment-2522</link>
		<dc:creator>kramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raptor, whether the handball was accidental or not, you can not deny that it made the difference. FFS, Hargreaves&#039; position got fucked because of it. Not complaining, a point was probably more than we deserved, but all this &#039;unintentional handballs should not be called&#039; thing is bollocks. No caution for Jenas, for sure, but we should&#039;ve had a free kick there. To be fair, we&#039;ve had our fair share of fortunate calls as well, so we have to take the bad with the good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raptor, whether the handball was accidental or not, you can not deny that it made the difference. FFS, Hargreaves&#8217; position got fucked because of it. Not complaining, a point was probably more than we deserved, but all this &#8216;unintentional handballs should not be called&#8217; thing is bollocks. No caution for Jenas, for sure, but we should&#8217;ve had a free kick there. To be fair, we&#8217;ve had our fair share of fortunate calls as well, so we have to take the bad with the good.</p>
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		<title>By: Raptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scoot The Red - re: celebrations - you are correct, and not only that , but at least, in this game,  the two managers and other coaches actually spent a few minutes talking to each other over what was an excellenet game.  I don&#039;t think there are too many managres in the Premier League who take more than a second with Wenger!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scoot The Red &#8211; re: celebrations &#8211; you are correct, and not only that , but at least, in this game,  the two managers and other coaches actually spent a few minutes talking to each other over what was an excellenet game.  I don&#8217;t think there are too many managres in the Premier League who take more than a second with Wenger!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott the Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott the Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PG - you can&#039;t see the difference between celebrating a draw at home and a draw away? Regardless, United after Spurs did not celebrate like Arsenal after United. We celebrated the goal madly, but at the final whistle, there were no laps of honour and tearful hugs ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PG &#8211; you can&#8217;t see the difference between celebrating a draw at home and a draw away? Regardless, United after Spurs did not celebrate like Arsenal after United. We celebrated the goal madly, but at the final whistle, there were no laps of honour and tearful hugs <img src='http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Raptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>United Ray - actually I was born in Norn Iron and played for Glentoran in the Irish League - in addition, I was also scouted by Bob Bishop for Man United (in case you don&#039;t know, he&#039;s the guy who discovered Utd&#039;s greatest ever player - Georgie Best) - I had a number of trials for United in NI but decided to stay at home as my Mum had terminal cancer!   I also have a bit of affinity for Utd despite being a Spurs fan!  By the way a buddy of mine, Chris Mc Grath, who I  played BB football with, also played for Sputs and Utd! So I have a little idea of what I speak! 
The point that you guys on here miss is that Utd were outplayed and all the moans about the yellow cards are a smokescreen for that!  Unlike you UnitedRay, I have an appreciation for a number of sports not just one!  You were close as I live in Canada now but catch the games each week on Setanta sports TV.  I don&#039;t expect football to cahnge to other sports but it also could learn from them too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>United Ray &#8211; actually I was born in Norn Iron and played for Glentoran in the Irish League &#8211; in addition, I was also scouted by Bob Bishop for Man United (in case you don&#8217;t know, he&#8217;s the guy who discovered Utd&#8217;s greatest ever player &#8211; Georgie Best) &#8211; I had a number of trials for United in NI but decided to stay at home as my Mum had terminal cancer!   I also have a bit of affinity for Utd despite being a Spurs fan!  By the way a buddy of mine, Chris Mc Grath, who I  played BB football with, also played for Sputs and Utd! So I have a little idea of what I speak!<br />
The point that you guys on here miss is that Utd were outplayed and all the moans about the yellow cards are a smokescreen for that!  Unlike you UnitedRay, I have an appreciation for a number of sports not just one!  You were close as I live in Canada now but catch the games each week on Setanta sports TV.  I don&#8217;t expect football to cahnge to other sports but it also could learn from them too!</p>
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		<title>By: PG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when Arsenal snatched a late draw against Man U earlier in the season and celebrated, this blog was critical of them claiming that it showed lack of ambition amongst many other things.  Now when Man U snatches a draw and celebrates,  the reverse argument is used ..that it leaves morale high etc.  I suggest you relook at your blog where you denounced Arsenal for doing so. Hypocritical of you methinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when Arsenal snatched a late draw against Man U earlier in the season and celebrated, this blog was critical of them claiming that it showed lack of ambition amongst many other things.  Now when Man U snatches a draw and celebrates,  the reverse argument is used ..that it leaves morale high etc.  I suggest you relook at your blog where you denounced Arsenal for doing so. Hypocritical of you methinks.</p>
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		<title>By: UnitedRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>UnitedRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raptor, you must be a yank! Talking about nba and nhl. Those games are completely different and thats what makes football (or maybe you would call it soccer) so much more attractive to us fans. Nba allows unlimited substitutions and many time outs. Do you want football to have all these as well? Stop being a sore drawer and stop whining like gooner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raptor, you must be a yank! Talking about nba and nhl. Those games are completely different and thats what makes football (or maybe you would call it soccer) so much more attractive to us fans. Nba allows unlimited substitutions and many time outs. Do you want football to have all these as well? Stop being a sore drawer and stop whining like gooner</p>
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		<title>By: Scott the Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott the Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raptor - have you ever heard the phrase &quot;minimum amount of stoppage time&quot;? When the boards get held up, the MINIMUM amount of injury time the referee has to play is held up. Within that MINIMUM amount of time, United won a corner. It&#039;s a bit soft to then blame the referee. If your players had been defending properly, which they should have done if their manager outthought, outplayed outmanaged the opposition, then you&#039;d be celebrating a win, not complaining about a referee. 

For all your criticism of moaning, you&#039;ve done an awful lot of it on my blog. Come on, you don&#039;t want to be like an Arsenal fan do you? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raptor &#8211; have you ever heard the phrase &#8220;minimum amount of stoppage time&#8221;? When the boards get held up, the MINIMUM amount of injury time the referee has to play is held up. Within that MINIMUM amount of time, United won a corner. It&#8217;s a bit soft to then blame the referee. If your players had been defending properly, which they should have done if their manager outthought, outplayed outmanaged the opposition, then you&#8217;d be celebrating a win, not complaining about a referee. </p>
<p>For all your criticism of moaning, you&#8217;ve done an awful lot of it on my blog. Come on, you don&#8217;t want to be like an Arsenal fan do you? <img src='http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Raptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott the Red - nice try, but as i noted, it was Clatterhead playing the extra minute that cost the goal - even Ramos cannot account for an idiot ref who can&#039;t keep time - too many football Refs let play go on, after time has run out,  just because a team is attacking - they should blow the whistle when time is up, not extend the time to see what happens.  The only exception would be a penalty kick! The NHL and NBA have independant timekeepers who sound a bloody big horn at the end of time, irrespective of what the Ref is doing - that is also good as the Ref can concentrate SOLELY ON THE GAME!  Even you have to admit that Spurs, under Ramos and with the new additions and training, are a much better organized and tougher team than at the start of the season.  They gave Utd notice in the FA cup last week and followed it up with one of their best performances of the season.  With a few good additions in the summer they will be a top 4 threat next season!  despite my annoyance at Fergie&#039;s &quot;blind eye&quot; comments I still would rather see UTd overhaul the Gooners for the title.  They are too good a team to keep moaning when they are outplayed - they should be better than that - surely you don&#039;t want them to be like the gooners?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott the Red &#8211; nice try, but as i noted, it was Clatterhead playing the extra minute that cost the goal &#8211; even Ramos cannot account for an idiot ref who can&#8217;t keep time &#8211; too many football Refs let play go on, after time has run out,  just because a team is attacking &#8211; they should blow the whistle when time is up, not extend the time to see what happens.  The only exception would be a penalty kick! The NHL and NBA have independant timekeepers who sound a bloody big horn at the end of time, irrespective of what the Ref is doing &#8211; that is also good as the Ref can concentrate SOLELY ON THE GAME!  Even you have to admit that Spurs, under Ramos and with the new additions and training, are a much better organized and tougher team than at the start of the season.  They gave Utd notice in the FA cup last week and followed it up with one of their best performances of the season.  With a few good additions in the summer they will be a top 4 threat next season!  despite my annoyance at Fergie&#8217;s &#8220;blind eye&#8221; comments I still would rather see UTd overhaul the Gooners for the title.  They are too good a team to keep moaning when they are outplayed &#8211; they should be better than that &#8211; surely you don&#8217;t want them to be like the gooners?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott the Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott the Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raptor, if Ramos outmanaged, outplayed and outthought Fergie...but still only ended up with a draw at home, the future can&#039;t be as bright as you&#039;d like it to be, surely? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raptor, if Ramos outmanaged, outplayed and outthought Fergie&#8230;but still only ended up with a draw at home, the future can&#8217;t be as bright as you&#8217;d like it to be, surely? <img src='http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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