Last week, Sir Alex Ferguson complained about the timing of our Premiership game against Boro, playing the early kick-off following a Wednesday night Champions League semi-final.
Ferguson ended his complaint by recognising if you sell your soul to the devil then there isn’t much room to complain. It’s true. We’ve seen millions of quid go through our hands thanks to TV revenue and so there’s no point getting bent out of shape when they want to us to play on Saturday lunch-time or Monday evening.
Wigan’s chairman, Dave Whelan, has complained about the unfair share of money the top four teams get for these games though, claiming it should be shared out.
“It is not a Premier League at the moment,” said Whelan. “There are the top four, some in between and the rest at the bottom struggling to stay in the division. We need an equal distribution of finance for the health of the league. We have to be fair because we are all in the same league and we all appear on television. Manchester United or Chelsea need somebody to play on the television, so we are as entitled as they are to the money that comes in from broadcasters. That is fair and would help bring some equality to the league.”
Now, it’s interesting that he would think that, with his club not proving to be the most desirable team for Sky Sports or Setanta. However, if he was owner of Manchester United, would he be prepared to split his money with the smaller clubs?
See, Whelan had the opportunity to buy United for just £1 million twenty years or so ago. He backed out though for fear that being associated with United would damage his JJB brand.
If Whelan was making £50 million profit every year from United, would he be sharing it around the smaller teams? I very much doubt it. Business men aren’t in to charity. It’s all fine and well for Whelan to ask for the money to be shared around when he isn’t getting a large cut, but if he was, I struggle to believe he would be all for giving it to the likes of Wigan and Hull!
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What a fucking plank……. !!
Wonder how much he would pay now to see his brand on our shirtfronts….?
Tony Pulis, Stoke manager, had an excellent rant about this yesterday as was shown on Sky Sports News. He defended clubs like United and dismissed as nonsense the notion that there should be a fairer division of finance. After all, we’re not just competing against the best (and richest) clubs in England but the best in Europe. If we were to have a fairer division of finances in this country, it’s extremely unlikely that other countries like Italy and Spain should follow suit.
If you can find the Tony Pulis clip, post it up. Well said, Tony.
Colbert – Yeah fair play to Pulis, hate his team but don;’t mind him.
After 20 years i think it’s fair to say that Dave Whelan is more bitter then a room full of dippers.
Re the last paragraph – how wrong could HE of been!
well we can take up Mr Whelan’s suggestion..
since he suggests that its fair because clubs like ours “need someone to play against” and i agree.
For an equitable solution you can divide the total sum paid by broadcasters by the matches being telecast (weighted by audience if needed), and then pay each team in that match half that amount.
After all, United’s matches are on tv everyweek, whereas Wigan’s are only on tv when they play us or the big 4.
United Vs Arsenal pulls in a global audience of 1 BILLION.
Wigan Vs Bolton gets a fraction of that amount.
That’s why the top sides get more money. Simple really Mr. Whelan.
After 20 years I think it’s fair to say Dave Whelan made a mistake!
The JJB brand has made many small independent sports retailers close over the year. Did he distribute his profits then?
I think not.
If it wasn’t for the top 4 clubs I can’t see the Premier League being half as popular meaning Wigan would get even less money from TV rights.
Numpty Bollocks.
the finances are shared out equally. the tv money is negotiated as a league then shared out equally, the only difference being a half million extra per place you finish in prize money (fair enough). the only money which doesn’t is champions league and why would you share out money for a competition when they’re not in it. In spain and italy its different, the clubs negotiate seperately, for instance Barca will negotiate a deal for themselves only. so as a result, they’ll get 50 million a year and Racig will get 10 mill, whereas in England everybody gets 30 mill.
Bottom line, shut the fuck up Whelan
have you seen a suggestion by the sports minister that the 4 CL team place all the TV money they get from the CL into fund that is ten distributed equally thru out the ‘whole football family’!!!
these kind of suggestions are crazy, whilst I want to see a more league PL and a better distribution of money thru the game, there has to be some motivation to win these competions and finish as high as possible in the league. I see Whelan hasn’t suggested that the TV money is split thru the whole of the league structure?
I think old Dave is losing his marbles. He’s had one to many pies.
What the hell – Liverpool score so early against West Ham – don’t see them losing now – just ruined my day so early…
I knew it Mahesh….i told costas the same thing in another thread not long ago. Bastards will get the 9 out of 9. Hence we have to do it the hard way….every week i pray and hope the twats drop points…but it never ever happens. Seriously they ruin my day week month and life.
Means we have to and have to win tmrw and wednesday.
oh hell – penalty to liverpool – i’m just going to stop following liverpool games because they depress me. Might as well focus on our game – will be tough watching them, but I guess if we do the business we deserved to win it, and if don’t we didn’t. The table does not lie at the end of the season, so all we can do is wait and watch…
fuck the dippers lads… we just concentrate on ourselves… if we keep doing the business the murderors can do what they like it wont matter a jot
keanesmagichat – wonder what the ABUs will make off the penalty awarded to liverpool today, or the fact that the hammers are getting done over by the ref…
Im off…..Fuck those dippers, sick to the back teeth with them and their bloody luck. That fuckin pen came from a blatant foul on a west ham player. Why doesnt wiley just give em the game. Fucking dipper lover….oh he was the ref we had in our game v the dips. Makes bloody sense now.
Saturday Ruined. Bastards.
Lads…please just let us do our business tmrw
Well Well, any I would say if the ref were bought by anyone, it would be Liverpool. Stonewall foul by Mascherano just before the penalty. A little tug on Torres and a penalty is given, although valid, but when you compare to Ronaldo, who gets chopped in half and still won’t get a freekick, let alone a penalty, its a joke
We have to everything ourselves these days.West Brom’s last chance is against the dippers next week but i would prefer it if the title was wrapped up by the Arsenal game because i want the trophy presentation at OT.The real question is how will Fergie utilise his squad in the next 3 games.They are all within 6 days and we need 7 points out of them.
Tell me about it marq…fuckin cunts.
Ovrebo told by uefa to keep it an all english final
Wiley + Atkinson told by the prem lge and FA to keep it an exciting open title race.
West Ham done over like a kipper….exactly like hull were.
Costas…if some miracle had happened today and those dipping scumbags hadnt had got their customary lucky usual win. Then i would have said slick team tmrw and then the hard physical grafters on wednesday.
But now its all or nothing. It has to be full strength arsenal 1st half and spurs 2nd half tmrw and wednesday. Absolutely we have to go for the kill.
As you can see todays with wileys performance…its going to be 9 out 9 for the dippers.
Makes me so nervy…that the vermin are like a bad rash that just wont go away.
Hope our lads aint watching those scummies. Lads rest up and concentrate on tmrw. C’mon lads. NAD C’MON FANS. IT WONT BE EASY BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT
On the way Hull is playing it shouldn’t be a problem to win there. But everything can happen that’s why we should decide it with the game against Arsenal but it could be a classic with Arshavin and desire to revenge the 2 defeats in the CL.
But we should thank gunners for taking 2 points from the dippers. it is something at least.
It is something Corea.That Arsenal draw is what made the game next week not a must win.All we have to do is win the next 2 and a draw against the Gunners will be enough.SAF has to shuffle his pack carefully though.
Hull 1-2 Stoke
West Bromwich 3-1 Wigan
it looks like liverpool will have not an easy game at West Brom. Who would have thought but they now have a chance to stay up.
Hull, i’m afraid, didn’t do themselves any good.
You know what sucks about the West Brom-Pool game?It’s after we play Arsenal.So if something happens there that gifts us the title we will still have missed the chance to have the trophy presentation at home.May i ask why they have made these ridiculous schedules?The dippers won’t play again for 8 days and we play 3 in 6!
yes, costas. it is really interesting how Fergie will handle his players form. we have another 2,5 weeks till the CL final and we should keep the momentum going and keep the shape of the team.
3-0 to the dippers. there is no way we will win the GD contest.
i am talking about Fergie’s team management because i can’t see us losing points in the games against City, Wigan, Arsenal and Hull in that kind of form. Maybe Arsenal because no one knows what the ref will invent and because it’s Arsenal.
I had told you corea.The GD was gone a long time ago.Now there is nothing they can do anymore.We are at a match point situation.7 or 9 in the next 3 and the next time they play it could be for nothing.
@ costas
it’s a shame because we are always better in that department.
At the moment i will just take the title.It is a bit disappointing to lose out to Liverpool on that department,but then again we haven’t got the red cards or the penalties that they had.
Why do the dippers have to ruin my day.
Making me even more jittery on our BIG week.
We have to go all out tmrw…no drab misatkes and placid first half shows ala spurs. Cos City do have some really tasty firepower…..and that Given is a damn good keeper. We have to try put the game to bed….Fans ARE NEEDED BIGTIME.
Feels sick now…seeing i predicted a dipper 0-3 win….even though i was praying to the contrary. Feels sick that the FSW is at it again…were gonna do it…utd feeling the pressure…blah blah blah. Table tonight doesnt look good.
But c’mon lads…no silly beggars…no discipline problems. Lets get the win tmrw. And hopefully tmrw night… the table will show…back 3 points clear with a game i hand…needing just 1 win and a draw.
STEP BY STEP LADS…..WE VE GOT TO EKE THESE 7 POINTS OUT
True guys…..in every other season..our GD is superior bar NONE. Buts its the 6 point swing and the 4 goal defeat to the dips that cost us our GD. If not….6 points from the next 2 would have been enough.
Anyway….its points that matter now.
I really didnt want us to need anything in the Arsenal game…as theyve got top players and will be after revenge and will NEVER want us to win the title v them + arhsavin and his cronies fully fit and fresh. But now we might need all 3. Hoping its just a point though.
Thats by the by at moment. Lets just say i wouldnt be too upset if come wednesday 10pm we were 6 clear.
No doubt MOTD abus drooling over the scum today….title race this and that and this and that. And how the scousers ar eso brillaint and could do it.
Anway guys Sky pundits have already predicted a draw for us tmrw.
Whats the predicted team line up…a line up + bench to get us those 3 points and get them without any nerves?
Costas?
Suhayl i think that the Skysport.com preview predicts us winning 3-0.My prediction on the team?
VDS-O’Shea,Rio,Vida,Evra-Ronaldo,Carrick,Fletcher,Park-Rooney,Tevez.
Bench:Foster,Rafael,Evans,Giggs,Scholes,Ando,Berba.
Bit quiet on here today….
Yep costas on the sky preview of the game it is 3-0. But those melonheads on gillette soccer saturday bar merson all predicted a draw.
Merson has gobe for a very hard fought tricky close 3-1.
Anyway im off now.
Tmrw will bring what tmrw will bring
Take care pal
Ah fuck tevez is defo going but he wants to stay in england i wud hate to see him in another jersy
Take care as well
Apprently he doesnt feel loved, i would hate to see play for the dippers
This isnt a wind up by the way, it will all over the papers tomoro, direct quotes from the player aswell
We will see john.If he has come out with comments like these,it will make SAF selecting him even more difficult.The season ends in 3 weeks.Why can’t he keep quiet until then?
yeah from what i gathered he would rather stay in england even do real madrid want him, The only clubs that can afford him are City Chlesea and liverpool, I would hate to see him at any of those
Should he play tomoro after this i dont know
To be honest, i don’t see how he will fit at Liverpool.Rafa might have to change his foramtion to 4-4-2,play him on the wing like Kuyt or keep him on the bench as Torres’ backup.If he goes to City or Chelsea,that will be an illustration of Joorabchian’s poor vision.This looks to me like an attempt at hardball by Tevez:”Pay up or you might see me with the shirt of one of your rivals”.
My liverpool supporters mates seem to think he is a rafa kind of player and they are in the market for one, it could be tevez trying to get a deal out if united but we will see
I wolud hate him if he went to the dippers theres no excuse for that its like your bird cheating on with your mate or worst enemy or something like tat
Any one who watched soccer saturday tonight on RTE they showed tomoros papers which they never do to show the storys bout tevez if your looking for a source
Tevez’s committment starts and ends in the 90 minutes he plays.He was never one of us off the pitch.In that sense,we can’t fault him for going to another club.It will sting though.At the moment he should just keep quiet.He is not doing the club that he has signed for until June any favors.
Rafa has said that he will be cheering City tomorrow.And he actually wondered if the club with the less defeats ever finished without the title.I was just looking into it and i saw that it has happened the last two years with Chelsea having less defeats.In total,it has happened 3 times.Nothing strang there.We attack more often,so we are more exposed at the back.
And they will prob finish top scorers in the league too, Ah yeah u will always get 100% out tevez and thats afact, He should have kept quite because i think he is a mile better that berba and ya know fergie has the ruthless streak where if ya speak out of line your gone so he mite not play him tomorrow
I think Nani has yet to play after walking out at halftime of the United-Spurs game.And he rarely sits on the bench.So SAF could take some action tomorrow.Liverpool will end up with less defeats and more goals.The less defeats is easily counter balanced by the fact that we have more wins.And wins give you championships.Not avoiding defeats.They do have more goals than us for the first time in the Premier League era but how many more penalties and red cards have they had?
Tomorrow’s going to be tough. Citeh will be at 100% commitment. We’ll have to match them right from the off and get the all important first goal.
Should Rafael start tomorrow? He owned Robinho at the wastelands. And I dont know, JOS has been playing well lately, but I worry about him going up against Robinho’s quickness. It’ll be interesting to see.
As I have been saying for some time fuck the dipper cunts. They NEED to WIN every game to keep them in the race, as long as we keep winning there is fuck all they can do. A win tomorrow and Wed will put us 6 clear with 2 games left each to play. We could even afford to draw against Arsenal and Hull which is very unlikely, we are in the “groove”. The ball is in our court, if we fuck it now we don’t deserve to win the league, simple as that. Atmos will be electric tomorrow and I cannot wait. We will do the bitter bastards 2-0.
If we do get 2 wins against City and Wigan,a point against Arsenal is all we are going to need.Hopefully this time next week we will be celebrating the title.As far as the right back is concerned,tomorrow i would go with O’Shea.
In other news today:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/299358/BARCELONA-BACK-DARREN-FLETCHER-Red-carded-United-ace-should-play-in-Final-says-Pep-Guardiola.html
Guardiola is right and i hope it’s not too late for both clubs to come to an understanding.Lets be honest here.Barca and United put food on UEFA’s plate.The least they can do is rectify these joke decisions.But i am afraid the credibility of all of this is hampered by the appeal for Alves.Alves deserves not to play in the final.He deserved his yellow.
-I am not bothered about what Liverpool do, it is well within our control. Even if it would seem they have been getting all the luck all season, it would make beating them to the title sweeter knowing all the luck in the world can’t win them anything. One interesting stats I heard. Many of the red cards in Liverpool games came against tackles on Alonso, at least 4 of them. He must feel hated! Haha
-Tevez us making it worst, he should just keep quiet now. Hell, even Dirk Kuyt has scored more goals than him!
-Barca trying to be funny attempting to get Alves to play. Abidal, yes, he has a string case as with Fletcher. Truely hope they over turn both the red cards to ease the sense of injustice
how can Alves get his yellow card rescinded.its just making a mockery of the rules by UEFA.Guardiola has realized that they are in big trouble with their defence for the final.i personally don’t see any of the cards being rescinded.
btw, Abidal is a shite defender.he is very much over-rated.