When John Terry rugby tackled Jo, the referee sent him off for serious foul play. It didn’t matter than Terry wasn’t the last man, the fact was rugby tackles weren’t a part of the game and Jo was denied a chance at a goalscoring opportunity.
Today, Nemanja Vidic rugby tackled Steven Gerrard. Rio Ferdinand was the last man but rugby tackles aren’t allowed in football and Gerrard was denied a goalscoring opportunity.
Both offences were red cards. Whilst you could argue that Rio Ferdinand should have stopped Vidic from being sent off, given his positioning, I would expect one of our opponents to be sent off for doing the same thing. I have no complaints.
However, England captain Terry had his card rescinded, meaning not even a yellow card was awarded for him dragging down Jo, whilst making no attempt to win the ball. Will Vidic?
I won’t hold my breath.
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I think we all know the answer, Scott.
We also know that Terry is a pussy, whereas Vidic is rock hard. Apparently, Vidic’s tears are a cure for cancer…however, this is of no use, as it is impossible for him to cry…
I’m afraid its one rule for The Lion of English Football and one rule for everyone else.
After the performance he gave today I think Vida deserves a “break”…all the adulations seem to be getting to his head
yeah, Vidic was utterly, utteryly atrocious this afternoon to be fair, Torres absolutely murdered him. maybe he needs a break.
Rescinded?Man United have never had a card rescinded.I don’t think we have ever chased such a cause.If we do we might have a case.I agree that Nemanja needs a break but at the moment,the game at Fulham is a must must must win.
Nah, let’s just leave it in right next to Evra’s ban for the next time rafa decides to throw some facts at us.
Both Evra and Vidic need a break lets give evans and Fabio a run in the team to refresh oyea we also need Brown and Rafael back pronto and lastley a good holding mid 1 that doesnt have my Grans knees hopefully
oh do please hold your breath
Surely if the FA hates you that much they’d do something about the fact Carlos Tevez is in violation of transfer rules because he isn’t on loan from another club?
What Maik said.
Hate to say it we were absolute rubbish today. It was men against boys and unfortunately we were boys. In every department we were second best. Our defense poor against a half fit Torres. Ronaldo without his shooting boots and not being able to beat a man. Carrick is not the same without Fletcher beside him. Meat and drink balls for a cente back sent up to that giant Tevez.
Come on United put this behind you and prepare for the next game and get back into winning ways. If not then we might struggle to win anything else this season
Oh and Ive just seen a flying pig if we tink the FA will recind the sending off
I think that FA rescinding an unjust red card for United is loooong overdue.Although Terry was at the middle of the pitch and it was harsh.However i doubt United will appeal(we never do for a strange reason) and i think Nemanja needs a breather.
Vidic is a great defender but he can be a bit of a pillock sometimes. you can’t take away what he has done for us this season but I am furious with him today.
in the club world cup final, he did something stupid and got himself sent off and that could have cost us the match but luckily it did not. furthermore, it meant we had to give evans pain killing injections because vidic’s stupidity meant he couldn’t play against inter.
It was the same at Anfield earlier this season
and now today. as if his awful error against torres wasn’t enough, he then got himself sent off and killed of any chances of us getting an equaliser
really disappointed in him.
You are right Spencer but the media have played their role.Constant references for him being the new Bruce,named Player of the year,wanted by Milan etc.I don’t know what to think about him at the moment.Thank God that we have SAF.He will use this result to straighten some players out.And maybe he will not appeal the red card for that reason.To give Vida some time to think about this game.
costas, I could understand if Vidic was being provoked by opposition players and kicked to death every match but he isn’t being. he isn’t the only united player to be under the media spotlight but is the only one to not only get himself sent off constantly in very important matches as well. what next, the champions league final? (should we get there)
I do agree to an extent about the media am starting to worry about vidic’s form as well. ever since the media started banging on about him being player of the year, he hasn’t been the same player
mehhh, We’ve got Evans to come in for him, and dont get me wrong Vidic is world class and i think he’s great but he deserved the card and he needs some time out to think about what a twat he was today.
We’ll Never Die! Top of the league and thats a FACT.
Don’t forget that he was this close to getting sent off in Moscow.
RE: Red-Manc. well said
RE: Costas. great player but sometimes like i said, a compelte and utter twat.
can’t wait to see stevie me’s face when all our players are parading the premiership trophy
Does anyone know how many games Vidic is banned for?
It seems no-one in the world realised what a strong wind there was at OT today and it was because of that wind Vidic misjudged the ball and you should never try and head a ball as a defender with a strong wind and he could have used his chest to get it down and then play it back to the keeper or just kept running down to the corner of the field and then turned around and kicked it upfield.
6 goals against Liverpool and all have been mistakes which is sometimes how football is. I can sometimes mourn the fact that these so-called big games means fook all to me cause what matters is every single game. We used to be a pumped up big game side in the 80′s and before that but we’ve gone a long way since those days and it is now sides like Liverpool who needs these big games to get going.
Ronaldo is finished at United and I am certain that after this game Fergie realises that and will cash in on a player that has lost the spark and will and who put himself in an impossible situation by that magic spell last season.
Like some caller to MUTV said this defeat could turn out to be a blessing in disguise as all the players needed a good kick up the backside to make that final push during the end of the season.
well, Terry rugby tackled Jo, but Vidic hung after Gerrard`s balls, so it`s really clear that it isn`t the same thing…
Looks like Ronaldo have trained the squad to follow in his footsteps (not good news for all men out there…)
more likely he’ll be ‘made an example of’ and we’ll be out our best defender for a month or two.
mate, seriously, as a man utd. fan you are in no position to complain about special treatment for certain clubs!
What a load of bollocks this is. First up it’s a clear red card, Rio was never getting across so no, it won’t be rescinded and rightfully so. Terry’s was rescinded because there was a covering defender who WOULD have got back. No FA conspiracy, there is just no case for Vida’s red card to be rescinded.
Secondly, what’s with calling our players twats? Vida had a shit game, one of incredibly few this season, get off the guy’s back.
Nick, nobody is calling Vidic a twat because he didn’t play well. they are calling him a twat because he acted like one by doing something ridiculously stupid to get himself sent off. and its not the first time. its the third fucking time this season and all in big games!
Needed that laugh. Thanks.
Managed to calm down after such a pathetic display by the ‘lads’. Remember we are still 4 points ahead with a game in hand and the title is for us to lose not for the others to win. Can’t see us playing as bad for the rest of the season. Hold your heads up high and beleive in your ability and we will win everything
Vidic acted dumb
Terry got away with it
F.A. bunch of cunts
He’s always at it,if he didnt play for manure he would get an early bath alot more.Granted being English buys you lots of leway.
only fickle disrespectul fans will call one of their best players and one of the best defenders in the world a twat because he’s been sent of 3 times in a season, i’d be happy to have vidic sent of 2 or 3 times a season if in the rest of the matches he gives brilliant performances like he’s been doing for the past 2 seasons or so, he’s a central defender afterall, it’s not uncommon for central defenders to get red cards every now and then,
big matches? they are only big matches because the media say so, we were 7 points ahead with a game in hand, we could have decided to play this match with team b, and rested some players, it wasn’t that big a match for us, it was for liverpool.
we just had a bad day, bcos maybe we were subconciously complacent, but we’ve got the wake up call now, so we are going for the quintuple with full force from now
Swede – I ain’t Ronaldo’s biggest fan but to say he is finished at United after today is a joke mate. He is United’s leading scorer again this season so far by quite a distance.
plz leave Vida alone.remember Rio’s mistake at Ever which led to their goal.
Vida must have been in CL mode thinking it was Zlatan & not Torres who wud close him down that quickly.but cant blame him for d season he has had afterall.that red card might be a blessing in disguise, bcause he needed a rest
seriolsy this week vidic has been not playin well this week
he was makin mistakes against Inter nd now today against liverpool
he can keep his head in a big game
Liverpool also played much better 2day nd now they have hope
Leave Vidic alone.
At 2-1, if he hadn’t bring Gerrard down, Gerrard would have been one-on-one with VDS. Vidic had to do what he was supposed to do. Stop opposition from scoring. It’s not like he handballed intentionally or what..
Also about Ronaldo.
He all know he’s not gng to score another 42 this season. Every defender in the world would have studied his dribbles, etc much more closely. And remember, he is not an out-and-out striker and for him to get 17 goals at this pt of the season is still a good return. In fact, I think he is our topscorer at the moment, isnt it?
It’s just a defeat, albeit against a squad of average players bar a couple plus an irritating manager. No knee-jerk reactions please. Remember every thing the boys have down to get us to where we are today – in the running for the remaining 3 titles.
Go United!
Totally agree with red manc on this . Hope Vida uses the rest to reflect on
his game and comes back stronger.
Guys is that a 3 match ban?It was a straight red.If that’s the case,United should finally appeal.They have never done so after a red card.
Doubt it, everyone hates us poor downtrodden mancs…boo hoo.
costas its a 3 match ban & United may have to think twice before appealing. those FA cunts may extend it to a 4 match ban if they find no proper reasoning.
Amidst all of this i forgot it was a straight red Wazza.The problem with the appeal is that Fergie himself said that he had no complaints.That’s my problem with us.Everyone else tries to weasel out of situations like this and we are always trying to be nice and magnamonous.Chelsea have had a red card rescinded twice this year because they were upfront about it from the start.Anyway.So he misses Fulham away,Villa home and Sunderland away.Fingers crossed that Rio doesn’t get injured.Squeaky bum time once again…
There is absolutely no way Vidic will get his red card rescinded.
Scott when I see that incident it immediately reminded me of John Terry. I was thinking of asking you to show both pictures side by side, but the dreadful result just made me forgot that incident.
I think this is the best and the most obvious chance to see who the FA is in favour of. Well, FIFA already showed that they have double standard with the Vidic case. So lets see now how FA gonna handle this.
Are we going to appeal Cantona7?Look at Fergie’s comments.The FA might use those against us.We have to gey used to the fact that he will be missing for the next 3 games and hope that Rio doesn’t go down with anything again.
Always there is a different rule for United by FA, no point of appeal, we know the answer.
It’s not a different rule at all for crying out loud.
Terry was sent off for denying a goalscoring opportunity. Carvalho was back and covering so it was rescinded.
Vidic was sent off for denying a goalscoring opportunity. Rio would never in a million years have got across to Gerrard, so it won’t be rescinded.
No bias, no FA conspiracy. The FA have screwed us over in the past and will do again but there’s nothing amiss here and to complain about it makes people look bitter, horrendously biased and invokes ‘when Peter cried wolf’ syndrome. Get a grip.
I have to believe that it’s a blessing in disguise. The lads looked extremely tired and basically never ‘showed up’ for the game. I can’t believe i found myself wanting Fletcher to come on as our midfield was nowhere. We had an off day and unfortunately it happened against the Dippers.
“We were the better team” Shame red nose is not man enough to face the cameras after a defeat – matt busby was a bigger man than ferguson will ever be
Nothing to do with your team freddie.He has talked after worst defeats.It was a protest against Sky.He did talk at other media outlets.
Lets be honest here, Terry’s red card should have stood. But the fact that it didn’t doesn’t make Vidic’s challenge any less of a sending off offence. If what Scott says about Terry’s being for Serious Foul Play is true, then that may offer some insight into why it was rescinded. Terry’s foul was punishable for Denying an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity, so if that wasn’t the reason cited by the referee then it’s his mistake.
Having said all this, Vidic has given us numerous performances this year, scored some match winning goals and made some match winning tackles. The sickening thing is that he made a bad situation worse, and instead of banishing that game to history at the final whistle, his moment of madness will cost us for three more games.
No doubt he will be back as strong as ever, and that’s the measure of Vidic. You will not see his head drop like Terry’s did at OT, nor do I expect Vidic to have the same sense of superiority that led JT to go into the referee’s dressing room at full time to ask for justification for his sending off. The referee asked him in response, “John, you’re 3-1 up and going into the last few minutes. Why would you do it?” The goon just stood there, just like at OT with nothing to say for himself. He knew he was wrong but his arrogance is what makes him Vida’s inferior.
Vidic deserved red. So did John Terry.
Gerrard held Vidic’s arm as Vidic was also holding his body. Jo was running at full speed.
I am sick of the FA. That’s all.
2 match ban it is.No appeal apparently.
Firstly, enough of this “we have never appealed a red card” shat, you appealed Ronaldo’s red after being sent of against city for a foul on Andy Cole (2006). You lost the appeal, becuase you should have, and enough crying.
The reason SAF won’t appeal this card is because there is no grounds to do so, it was a blatant card. Furthermore, it’s hard to appeal red cards when you are never given them, how many did you receive in the league last year? I assure you if you do the research you will find many more red cards are shown to your opponents then have ever been shown to you….
However you get your fair share in Europe where they aren’t intimidated by SAF and his BS.
Terry’s card was rescinded because the ref recorded it wrong in the match report. It was recorded as a SFP in stead of a DOGSO. Had it been recorded as a DOGSO he would have served a 1 match ban. If you want to blame someone, blame the ref who wrote it up wrong but I doubt you lot will get much sympthy with this “The FA is out to get us” vile you are spitting.
Vidic deserved the red now shut up and take it.
Near as I can tell, in the two seasons previous to this one Manchester United received 3 red cards, 1 to Scholes in 06/07 for trying to punch a Liverpool player (Alonso), 1 each to Ronaldo and Nani in 07/08 for headbutts. Tell me how any of those could be appealed?
Stop trying to act as if you are above appealing, the simple fact is you have to basically headbutt someone or throw a punch at someone to get red carded at United (short of ripping down an open run on goal of course lol).
In a matter of fairness though, Chelsea appeal red cards as much as all other teams combined appeal red cards, and have been somewhat successful with Terry having one and Lampard having two overturned in the last couple years