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Would United Allow Chelsea Captain’s Behaviour?

Believe it or not, John Terry was a player I was once an admirer of. I knew that he’d turned us down in favour of Chelsea when he was lad, despite his dad bringing him up a United fan, but kids do stupid things, eh?

Lots of people seemed to see Terry like I did though, which probably contributed to his downfall. He was never the best defender but he was always one of the most dedicated. But people talked him up, myself included, this ‘British Bulldog’, and it went to his head. I can only imagine how much Jose Mourinho pumped his ego, given all the Chelsea players still walk around like Billy Big Balls, thinking it’s totally acceptable for them to behave however they like.

April 16th 2007
Terry: “I am Chelsea, through and through – I want to stay for life, I love the club, love the players, love the manager, Roman – and I want everyone around me when I do stay.”

May 1st 2007
Terry: “I’d certainly like to manage one day. When we were speaking about my contract with Chelsea we were talking about a nine-year contract maybe with an option to manage at the end of it. That is certainly the way I want to go.”

February 29th 2008
Terry: “I really can’t see myself leaving and I signed a new contract earlier in the season. I love the club, and I’m so passionate about Chelsea. I just want Chelsea to succeed. I like to think I know what the fans go through on a weekly basis. I don’t just come in, train and go home and forget about things, I take it home with me. I am fortunate to be in the position I am at an amazing club like Chelsea, and to enjoy the things that come with being a professional footballer. I have been here on £45 per week and worked my way through to being where I am today. I appreciate everything and work hard every day.”

May 24th 2008
Terry: “I am so sorry for missing the penalty and denying you the fans, my team-mates, family and friends the chance to become European champions. Many people have told me I don’t need to say that but I feel I need to, that’s just me. I have relived that moment every minute since it happened. I have only slept a few hours and wake up every time hoping it’s all been a bad dream. I have had some amazing support from fans, current and ex-players, family and friends and I need to thank everyone for that. But I am a big man and I take responsibility for us not winning. I am and always will be Chelsea through and through. I will give my all on and off the pitch to win this trophy as a player and one day as a manager. And I am sure we will win it. That night in Moscow will haunt me forever and I feel I have let everybody down and this hurts me more than anything. I am not ashamed about crying. This is a trophy I have tried so hard year after year to win and it was just an uncontrollable reaction, I wear my heart on my sleeve, everybody knows that.”

December 13th 2008
Wilkins: “If I was to pick one at the club to surpass Zola in the future, I’d say John Terry because he epitomises what we’re about. He’s professional and he’s a one-club player. I would imagine in 10 years’ time when they have their next poll, John will probably be the one that will sit at the top of the pile.”

February 15th 2009
Terry: “Chelsea told me what had happened with the enquiry as a courtesy. I was very happy with their reaction as mine would have been the same. I have always said that I want to end my career at the club which I love and we all see no reason why that cannot happen. Given recent events I am more determined than ever to make Chelsea successful again.”

Kenyon: “We made it very clear that John was not for sale. We did not entertain any further conversation on the subject and nor will we in the future. John is our captain and the captain of England. He is part of the heart and soul of Chelsea.”

Wilkins: “There must be some very wealthy clubs out there if you think John Terry is leaving. I would not think John will be going anywhere. He adores Chelsea, his family live in the area and he has everything he desires at Chelsea. I would expect him to start with us next season. That is an absolute certainty.”

July 4th 2009.
Terry: “Next season we need to make sure we start a lot better than we did last year and really push for the Premier League because I would love to win that trophy again, as well as being back in the mix for the Champions League.”

Silence. Two bids came in for Terry and he said nothing. There were plenty of opportunities, like press conference for the release of their new kit or the press conference before they went to the States on pre-season, but Terry didn’t say a word. The fans kept telling themselves that he wasn’t going but as every week went by they had to wonder why he wasn’t just putting the rumours straight.

When he was accused of spitting at Carlos Tevez in the European Cup final, he spoke to the press immediately. When Didier Drogba shouted that it was a “fucking disgrace!” in to camera which was beaming pictures all around the world, Terry immediately spoke to the press in defence. “I am fully behind Didier Drogba for the way he reacted,” Terry bizarrely said. What kind of captain is fully behind a player abusing the referee and swearing in to a Sky Sports camera? No wonder the Chelsea players behave as they do with a captain backing all their apalling behaviour!

So, it’s not as if Terry is camera shy or doesn’t like the sound of his own voice. Every time Chelsea get a new manager, Terry goes on and on about how brilliant they will be and what a positive impact they’ve had on the club, and when they get sacked, he insists they had his full support. So if he can defend his good name when came to Tevez, back his players, wax lyrical about every new manager, why did take so long for him to reasure the fans he supposedly loves so much? Could it possibly be because he was giving a move to City a second thought? Course not! This is Mr. Chelsea we’re talking about here!

“I said I wanted reassurances about people like Ashley – who was brilliant last year – him and Frank were our best players last year. He has two years left on his current deal and I want players like that around me, I want these players staying at Chelsea Football Club and I am sure the fans feel exactly the same.”

Hold on, so Terry couldn’t tell the press and fans he wanted to stay until he knew that Lampard and Cole were staying? This attitude doesn’t quite fit with the “I am Chelsea, through and through – I want to stay for life, I love the club”, does it? He wants to stay for life… as long as Frank Lampard and Ashley Cole stay too?

“I have been at the club 14 years and it is strange because it is the first time in my career that someone has come in for me, and the speculation surrounding it is a bit strange as everyone expects you to come out and respond to things instantly, which I had done a couple of times last year when City came in for me. I just felt I would do this in my time, in Chelsea’s time and do things when it was right for us but I am very pleased with how things have gone.”

Terry states what we all know. He has been silent for a month. He has ‘done this is his own time’. But he doesn’t explain why. Why did he have to do this in his own time and keep quiet? Because his head was turned by City? No, of course not!

“I just wanted reassurances that key players around me like Ashley and Didier, who are in contract talks at the moment, are going to be staying and that was a key factor for me, so I am pleased about these players and the ambition at the club is in the right direction and where I want to be,” Terry repeated.

Now whilst I think City are pretty delusional, they’re not complete idiots. There have been dropping bids for players all over Europe since last September and haven’t had too much luck with the bigger names. Robinho is the only player who stands out and he thought he had signed for Chelsea. But they’re not mugs. They don’t keep bidding for the same players over and over once they’ve been told no. So someone at some point has given City hope in signing Terry. The fact that Terry kept his gob shut for a whole months all but confirms it was a possibility. If Terry can’t explain why he needed to stay quiet for so long and cites the future’s of Lampard and Cole as reason why he was unsure of his own future, the picture paints itself.

We can look at Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes and Gary Neville, with a total of 50 years in the first team, and even longer a part of our club, it is clear none of them would behave like this.

“I have been offered a one-year extension to my current deal but I turned it down,” said Giggs as a 30-year-old. “I was hoping for a longer deal. I want to end my career at Manchester United and asked them to reconsider.” So the club came back with a two year offer on a decreased salary and he accepted.

Chelsea clearly have a more appealing wage structure for players over 30 than we do, with Lampard putting pen to paper on a 5-year-deal last summer, so there should be no financial worries for Terry, surely? Well, whilst Chelsea offer much more lucrative contracts than United, City now dwarf Chelsea in what they’re prepared to offer.

Rio Ferdinand stalled on a contract a few years back and was booed by our fans. Those at FC United still sing about it. Whilst I’d argue most United fans have forgiven (if not forgotten) after the years have gone by, but there are still some who don’t have time for him. He’s a cockney ex-Leedscum captain and even with our lower expectations of him, we still expected better behaviour from him.

Some Chelsea fans have expected better from Terry but they are in the minority. The general consensus is that as long as he’s staying, it doesn’t matter that he’s flirted with City over the past few months. It’s a sad reflection on what football fans find acceptable.

But United fans aren’t perfect where this issue is concerned, believe it or not, thanks to our feelings towards Cristiano Ronaldo and David Beckham, the lifelong United fan.

Ronaldo’s mention only needs to be brief because he was no “United through and through” type player, but his disgraceful behaviour in the press last summer and his poor attitude on the field was tolerated by so many, simply because he was so good. I wasn’t one of these fans and whenever I criticised him there were plenty of fans telling me I was in the wrong. He had loads of support despite making it clear he wanted to leave the club, far more forcefully than Terry, who chose just to stay quiet whilst he considered an offer, instead of repeatedly talking to the press about his desire to leave.

As for Beckham, and I’ve covered this issue at length before so won’t go in to that much detail here, but it shows no group of fans are immune to following their hearts rather than their heads where their favourite players are concerned.

Before signing for Real Madrid but when clearly the talks had begun, Becks started making excuses for himself, which are long forgotten now by most.

“I’ve never said that I’d never move away from Manchester, and I’ve never said that I’d end my career there,” Beckham said less than a month before his move was finalised. Had Beckham stayed at United, would this comment have been forgiven? We can only speculate.

As it is, Beckham did leave, and since leaving has spoken of his love for United and our fans repeatedly. It’s easy to forget the cloud under which he left and it’s easier to pass the buck to Ferguson. We love him regardless of any faults so we’ll blame him for Beckham leaving to allow us to love Beckham still. Truth is, I wouldn’t blame Ferguson for losing patience with Beckham, following his substandard performances, controlling wife, obsession with his ‘brand’ off the field and refusal to sign the contract we offered him. “It’s not the salary that’s a problem, it’s just the image rights that needed a little perking,” Beckham said five months before leaving.

So Terry will be greeted like the Prodigal Son, with a new contract on the way no doubt, regardless of what he claims, just as David Beckham is by United fans. There are a few rare players, like Paul Scholes’ whose wage isn’t the be all and end all, but it seems as though most others will always have a price, particularly if the wages are being paid by a top team in Europe. Whatever players claim about being “fans”, sadly most of them don’t see the game the same way we do, and whilst money remains as football’s god, we’ll see more “through and through” players messing their clubs and fans about.

About Scott

Scott is the editor of Red Matters - 50 Years of Supporting Manchester United and an author of Play Like Fergie's Boys and Not Nineteen Forever. He writes for ESPN, The Metro and Bleacher Report. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter.

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  1. RJ says:


    I was thinking the exact same thing a couple of days ago, the same goes for Ronaldo really.

  2. gotta hate tiny tears says:

    manutdchampions2008 or micheal or whatever
    cantona kicked a holigan went to court and was found guilty had to pay a large fine which went to charity and did community service because the judge found that it served cantona better to teach youths in manchester football that to do anytime. which when you think about it it does.



    WTF ? I aint got no beef – Perhaps it means exactly what it says not what you think it says – Got a bit of a crush on someone have ya?

    I dont know what you think you read but perhaps you could let me know what your problem with me is?


    @ghtt – I hope you didnt find any offense in me having laugh about stevie G?
    I aint got any problem with anyone on this forum and only ever come here to be amongst fellow Reds and enjoy the craic.
    @Isaidso seems to be creating battles with people on your behalf that really arent there in the first place mate. You certainly sound like the sort of geezer who can fight his own battles when in fact there is one to be fought in the first place.

    Yours is one of the first rants I always look for on here and especially when it is about JT.

    PS – I think your Emily is a star aswell fella !

  5. manutdchampions2008 says:

    gotta hate tiny tears maybe but if that was a normal person who attacked that palace fan he would be in jail for a month or 2. coaching I think was one of cantonas strengths most judges send ppl down for their misery not their enjoyment.

  6. gotta hate tiny tears says:

    run that little rat into the grond as much as i care buddy

  7. gotta hate tiny tears says:

    it wasnt for his enjoyment
    its because the guy is eric fuckin cantona and whats better for a judge of manchester to do with him. put the guy behind bars to wash clothes or train kids to keep them off the streets get them into an activity and maybe a path on life
    if stevie gbh was found guilty he should of been suspended by his club and made do the same thing

  8. gotta hate tiny tears says:

    and nice one aswell for your words about emily
    i have no problem with you brother and the only thing i have grips about is your user name is funnier and smarter than mine:)

  9. King Eric says:

    Isaidso – How is READ WHAT I SAID having a go at tiny tears mate? Have I missed summat?

  10. King Eric says:

    gotta hate etc – Talking of MUTV has anyone heard that “Edna” phone in? Quality.


    @GHTT – Cheers mate

    Fuck knows what he was on about – I think he likes to find drama where there is none. Glad to know I had not inadvertently caused any offense, and certainly not to one of the better commentators on this brilliant forum.



    @GHTT – My old user name was Red Rojo Rot rouge but had to get rid of anything with the spanish in it cos of Tevez and his incessant whingeing.
    New season new name. Same old Champions !!

  13. gotta hate tiny tears says:

    not really the same champions
    no more “miserable players “

  14. King Eric says:

    READ CAREFULLY WHAT I SAID – i thought you were probably RED ROJO etc!. same style of writing and the only poster whose name is in capitals.

  15. John Ferry says:

    John Terry is the most despicable and over rated player in world, as stated by ghtt. My username is dedicated to his cuntyness.


    @King Eric

    The psychoanalysts in the secure unit diagnosed an inflated ego and disproportionate sense of self importance hence the capital letters mate !

    I am the way God made me and who am I to criticise his work.We all know Alex doesnt take criticism afterall.

    @ghtt – Yeah, no more moaners this year – a bit like Daz washing powder – every year we are new and improved and getting rid of the toughest shit stains like Liverpool and Shitty. Haha.
    He did after all create your namesake and for that


    and for that…… we are all eternally in his debt.

  18. rdhanson says:

    Thanks for another great article Scott.
    I was called “a moron” on a recent post for saying that Beckham went for the money. I was told that I was a victim of the media.
    How wrong people can be. It’s the media that kept everyone on Beckham’s side and I’m frankly disgusted that Man U fans can support this guy after he turned his back on MAN UNITED for money. Where are these fans at?

    As I said in my previous post – loved him when he played for us, but fuck him!

  19. Marley says:

    Good article Scott, completely spot on

  20. TonyBee says:

    Anyone heard from Suhayl…or has he changed his name an’ all ??

  21. TonyBee says:

    Oh by the way….John Terry is a cunt… end of…..!!

  22. Isaidso says:

    @readcarefullywhatIsaid, and @King Eric – whoops embarrased muchly – I did think you were saying something other than you were saying, so apologies from me. Did Tinytears change his name to I hate Tiny tears, because I thought people you were saying you hated Tiny tears LOL. I am new to the blog, and it is so often frequented by alien visitors from Man Pity, Liverpoo, etc etc, so I don’t know whose who – sorry guys No Offence meant – OK? I know who you are though King Eric from RedRants!

  23. King Eric says:

    Isaidso – No problems mate. His user name is “gotta hate tiny tears” so I can see what you mean. I don’t go on RedRants very often and have never posted under this name, must be a different one.

  24. theboogeyman says:

    And for whoever asked about R.E.S.T.E.C.P.,that’s how Ali G,Sacha Baron Cohen’s earliest character,spells respect.

  25. blur says:

    It is amazing how much this blog goes on caring about other clubs buisness.
    I like this blog, i don´t even support United, but sometimes it is just over the top with all this spitting at other clubs respectivly players.

    Questions like “Would´ve United done this and that” don´t have to turn up to that moment until United is an a situation like that.

    Take care about the behaviour of your own players, like Rio, Ronney and your so loved explayers like C-ron and Tevez.

    You don´t have to like Terry because he´s Chelsea and all but really, for the sake of your United-biased journalism – step a bit back.

  26. Scott the Red says:

    Blur – clearly you didn’t read the article otherwise you would know I mentioned and criticised our own players… Rio, Ronaldo, Beckham.

  27. Ste68 says:

    An interesting piece. However loyalty and respect works 2 ways and clubs often show little to players. Having worked your way through the ranks and seen friends disgarded or injured and dumped it must surely focus your mind that your time in the game is short and you have to make the most of it both from a financial and professional point of view.Utd have been in a position to benefit from this for a long period of time being able to satisfy both demands but despite any badge kissing or declarations of effection for your club or any club for most players its cash and silverware in that order and when either dry up they would not look back twice. This is the price of a global premier league. Local players with real allegiances destined to face the fans they play for post retirement are rare and perhaps the Scholes,Giggs and Nevilles are the last of the old breed of player. Terry has let Chelsea fans down inall of this but probably regards it as a result if its increased his wage by £20k a week.


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