Joe Cole grew up supporting Chelsea and got his dream move when just 22-years-old, with Claudio Ranieri signing him for £6.6m.
He has time and again stated that he wants to see out his career with the club, despite being looked over every manager he has played for at one point or another, and after coming back from a lengthy injury at the start of this season, reiterated his desire to sign a contract with the club.
However, as time has gone by, no deal has been struck, with Cole now just a few months away from being able to leave the club on a free.
After John Terry and Frank Lampard have taken the piss out of Chelsea over the past two summers, Cole admirably claimed he wanted to keep away from a tabloid fuss.
“I want nothing more than to stay at Chelsea, I love it here,” he claimed. “It’s not a problem. I don’t want a drama in the papers, either. You won’t hear my agent running around saying I’m going to this club or that club. I want to be at Chelsea and they know that.”
He is well loved by the Chelsea fans and clearly wants to stay, but only if the price is right. He is currently earning £80,000 a week and the press claim he has been offered a deal worth £100,000 a week. With the likes of of Michael Essien and Nicolas Anelka earning £120,000 a week, Frank Lampard on £140,000 a week and John Terry on £150,000, it makes sense that Cole and his agent would want a comparable salary.
The situation reminds me of that of Wes Brown a couple of years ago, with a player who wants to stay, but also doesn’t want their commitment to the club to leave them looking a mug. Wes was being offered less than John O’Shea, which made no sense at all given that JoS was used as part of the squad rotation, whilst Wes was our starting right back (and went on to play more games for us that season than any other player).
Cole’s contract discussions started several months ago, although less formal talks began in the summer of 2008, which suggests the club have yet to meet the price the player is looking for if nothing has been signed. You would imagine that with their transfer ban, Chelsea will be keen to keep a hold of all the players they can, but Roman Abramovich has tightened the purse strings in recent seasons may not be prepared to meet Cole’s evaluation of himself.
Now, they might be able to kiss and make up, if Cole issues an ultimatum. Or the player might simply have enough, with his agent listening out for other offers (of which there will be plenty) and keen to get his cut elsewhere, meaning we could make a move for him.
Even without our financial problems, signing someone of Cole’s quality would be a great bit of business. He’s no mercenary, from what I can gather, rather a player who wants to be paid what he feels he deserves in relation to his team mates. At United, we wouldn’t be offering him the supposed £120,000 he’s looking for, but as long as he could get at least a four year deal with a competitive salary, surely he would be interested. He conceded just last month that Chelsea haven’t been good value for money in terms of the trophies they’ve won, so maybe a move to United would be appealing in that respect. He would also be playing under a manager who has a great deal of time for him and alongside players he loves.
All we have to do is surgically remove that ridiculous sweat band he wears and jobs a good’en.
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Joe Cole can do a job for us…
For free, why not?
120k a week is a bit much tbh.
Yes
Quality player who has been hampered by injuries. Cant help liking him. I think he has been okay since coming back from injury although he dosent get many starts. It will take time coz he was out for a really long time
Lets tie a pre-contract deal now so that we can get him for free in the summer
in a heartbeat
Without a doubt but won’t happen.
Scott,
For once you’ve missed some key information, Sir Alex showed Joe and his father George around Old Trafford when he was 15, Scouts had raved about a ‘small lad who had the skill of Gazza’. Cole loved it and Fergie tried to get him when he was 18, Harry gave him the captain’s armband and his love for WEST HAM (Bitter rivals of Chelsea) was there for all to see. Fergie has commented on Joe Cole in the past, I remember him praising his ability when he left 3 of our defenders falling over at their place when they won 3-0 to take the title. We would take him now!!
for free…I’ll bite their hands off!!
I think he’s a good little player, also works hard for the team, has a bit of skill and scores some crucial goals…remember his time with mourinho where he scored some crucial winners for them.
I think he’s a much better version of Park-ji-sung. Almost as hard working but with a bit more quality and skill and a significantly more goal threat.
I was always sorry Fergie couldn’t persuade Joe Cole to sign as a kid, despite taking him on the team coach to Wembley for the 1996 FA Cup Final and generally making a fuss of him with the first teamers. Evidently he thought he’d be facing competition from too many other ‘kids’ coming through. I’d sign him up now like a Joe Cole shot. In the meantime I hope a little of his discontent rubs off in the Chelsea dressing room.
120k x four years = 480k + zero transfer fee. No-brainer really; quality player and a good honest lad. Can’t imagine him moving in the end to be honest.
Damn right.
sure..why nt..
he is a gud player…
n free…
netime..
Love to c him play for us n score agnst chelsea..
Joe Cole is a very talented player who knows how to win. My only question would be where to play him – he’s done his best work for Chelsea and England on the wing but Utd are not exactly short in that department. One thing is for sure, his style does not suit Carlo Ancellotti’s Diamond system – he looks isolated when he plays for Chelsea and he is struggling to get into the game.
I think Utd’s style would suit him a lot better, although I wonder if it might be worth taking a chance playing him as an attacking player through the centre of midfield since this is the area where Utd seem to be most lacking this year.
Yep, fits the bill perfectly for our new transfer policy – buy cheap youngsters who might make the grade, or old former greats for free…
A free transfer? That’s about all we can afford…
And, just think. the Glazers could quickly sell him on, keeping the cash as a reward for their own astute financial management, and they could borrow even more from the club to pay off their debts.
Was only discussing this same subject with a friend last night.
Joe cole is united material, always thought so.. He’s been stiffled at Chelsea over the years playing into a rigid system. Play him on the wing or in the hole and allow him to express himself and he will really show his quality. Mourihno beat that side of his game out of him. With a manager like SAF or Wenger he would have flourished.
Joe Cole had his best spell for club and country from 2005 until 2007. I don’t know if he could make an impact at this stage of his career. I wouldn’t rule out signing him though. After the Michael Owen transfer, anything’s possible.
I would take him. For a free transfer the lack of a transfer fee would cover a chunk of his wages effectively, but 120k a week may still be a bit much for a player who hasnt played a great deal of football over the last 2 years.
but i think hes the kind of player we need, creative, can play out wide of through the middle. With more of a creative influence in midfield aswell, rooney wouldnt have to spend so much time back in midfield picking up the ball
Lol Jig3000;
£120k x 52 (weeks) x 4 (years) = £25m (rounded up)
Still, he wouldn’t be on that much at United and with top players nowadays you have to expect to be paying at least £60k / £70k a week at least.
Pretty pointless talk anyway, I see no chance at all of this happening.
Costas
he was a good player and is still just 28. Anyways we have nani, Obertan and giggs there. So he wont have much competition and can easily get a regular price. Would be great to see him and valencia on the wings. I think he is still good enough.Wont happen though.
Jig3000.
It’s £120k per week. So it’s (52*120k) * 4, which is just short of £25m.
If we were happy to pay £80k per week, (52*80k) * 4 is about £16.5m.
So there would be £8.5 for either a transfer fee or to pay his wages if he’s on a free.
These ‘free’ transfers make me laugh – nothing is for free (except maybe Michael Owno).
I don’t think so. Long record of injuries, never quite fulfilled his potential. But he’s got to be better than Nani, and the club has no money to spend since the Glazers have just taken all the cash and put it in their own bank account.
@ jig3000
Good lord boy!!
120,000 is his weekly wage they are talking about!!
120,000 X 52 X 4 = 24960000
Almost 25 million pounds!!
but at least we dont have to pay anything upfront as he is a free purchase!
Considering we dont have much money we may have to sign players like cole, van nistelrooy and some of the freebies and try and hope to get the best out of them. That seems to be our only option now that the Glazers have taken us for a good ride.Also we must try for Chamakh. Is decent striker and a free agent in the summer
AIG
I think Sir Alex could get the best out of him for a season or two. He is a good solution since he is free. In the summer we could see Nani get sold and Cole come in his place. Unfortunately, doesn’t look like Di Maria will joim us anytime soon.
The only rentboy I can stomach. Yeah I would take the lad in a heartbeat and play him on the left.
Hahahaha funny how quite a few of us picked up on the calculation part at almost the same time….. reading all this financial hoo doo is really helping us do our sums right innit??
@eddiethered
“he’s done his best work on the wing but United aren’t exactly short in that department”
???
I personally think that the wings are the weakest area for us. We have Valencia who has turned out much better than expected, he’s made that right-wing spot his own now. Giggs… brilliant, old, inconsistent, yadda yadda. Park always does a job but he’ll always be a squad player. Nani, Obertan, Welbeck… none of them are close to being good enough. And Tosic probably went wandering and got lost.
I also think Cole would be more adept at the 4-3-3 system we play away in Europe (and now in away games vs Birmingham City) as he’s more comfortable cutting inside than our other wingers to support the lone striker.
Besides our central midfield is very strong, underrated by the media, but I won’t go into that.
i think hes the most naturally gifted english player about today (apart from one, have a guess), he reminds me of a continental winger, not scared to run at defenders, try a few stepovers etc and have a crack from outside the box. hed be a refreshing change from nani who has to skin his full back 3 times before he puts a cross in or park who for me is a good squad player but doesnt really add a lot. fergie, sign him up!
Costas
Di maria’s price is ridiculous.Too much for a 21 year old who has done well in the portugesge league. I think we should stick with nani and give him another chance. He can definitely do a better job than Obertan, Park and Giggs as giggsy cant play all the games and has gone missing in recent games.
Would love to have Krasic. Has more experience and would be available for 10-12 million pounds, plus is just 25 years old
Why not?
Even though his wages might be high, but I look at it like an installment deal. It’s not necessary that we will keep him for more than 3-4 years so it isn’t that bad in my opinion. And the good thing is we need not pay anything up front.
If we are reaching the point where we are going to be doing what some might put as the ‘Arsenal model’, I will grab a chance for Joe. We still do need experience.
I think you lot are getting carried away with yourselves. Joey’s probably the most honest player we’ve got and he’s made it clear he wants to play for us. We’re hardly in a position to let him go either and whether the club are trying to restrict their outgoings or not, they’ll have to bite the bullet on this one and give him parity with the players around him. The club have said negotiations are ongoing, so anything the rags throw up is pure sensationalism.
Fair enough he hasn’t signed a deal YET but that’s all the press have to go on, there’s been no quotes from Cole or his agent to suggest there’s a problem with the deal or that he’s unhappy. Dream on.
ChelseaD
Its just an opinion whether we would take him incase it happens that he dosent renew his contract of which there is hardly any chance. All United and Chelsea fans know that it wont happen
Why would I want Joe Cole on a free when Sergio Canales (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjN7JcX712E) is going to be available for free at the same time?
Do we really need him? If we cant play him in the wings, then playing him in the hole doesnt make any sense – thats not where the problem is. He is not an out and out goal scorer, and if we need an attacking central mf, why not let Ando bomb forward instead of shackling him? Good player, but I would suppose a old-style center fwd is more in line with our requirements.
Besides we may even sell him on after a couple of years for a good profit as he would be a free acquisition.
But I dont think any of this is gonna happen untless Chelsea really bottle it in their negotiations
yes.
Would be a great signing if he was free, just hope Fergie would use him more than he has Micky Owen
HussBooster
Sergio Canales!! Saw his goals at the weekend against Sevilla and everyone has been going ga ga over him. Must be seen how he develops over the course of the season. No doubt he looks a talent but there will be lot of clubs wanting to sign him. Some clubs will be ready to offer him ridiculous weekly wages so i cant see the deal happening.
I would love him at United.
AIG – good call re Krasic. He does look good and, if stories are to be believed and Nani is on his way, then the net difference in transfer fees should be negligible.
On topic, I really like Joe Cole. Excellent player, great attitude and bags of skill. Will we get him – nah !! He’s chelsea through and through….
NO.
It makes no sense to me to play hard-ball with Nemanja Vidic who wants to be paid like Rio but then to turn around and pay over-the-odds for a guy who is not young, not really proven (despite the hullaballoo) and not a left-sided player.
With our current financial situation I dont think we could afford to overlook someone who is proven in the premier league. On the subject of free transfers, Im surprised that we havent made a move for Chamakh. Especially as we are very short up front
out of al the chelsea players id take joe cole at united
he doesnt seem to be effected by what ever brainwashing attitude change that came with the special one
id buy him , If United are selling Park or Nani then Id use one of there monies
AIG – right about Krasic, would definitely make it United, also his style is similar to Valencia in his directness and pace..
Red Devil
Exactly. Very direct, great dribbler, can use both feet and is good at long distance shooting. Things we are lacking at the moment
Good player but a diver and sometimes don’t like his attitude and the way he expresses himself on the pitch. But very talented.
The answer is no.
Hussbooster
cole has so much more value on Sergio Canales because is premiership experience is gold dust his played in high pressure matches won the premiership and was part of a european champions league match with barca and other high pressure games and was there in moscow
Joe Coles proven
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Hi.Hope you and Emily are fine
It depends the way you see it. Joe Cole is proven but very injury prone and 28 years old. Plus if we have to pay him 120k would be ridiculous as he would miss some months due to injury for sure.
Canales on the other hand is a definite talent. Just 18 years old but is showing maturity beyond his age. However it is not certain by any means that he will succeed at United. Has happened to so many youngsters before.Highly talented but havent made the mark at United. However since he is available for free, it is worth a try.
we need both cole and canales. also chamahk on a free would be nice, can’t believe we aint gone for him
people people people.. to get someone like canales to OT we would have to beat a lot of other clubs, so i don’t think the amounts required (whether its transfer fees or signing on fees etc) would represent good ‘value’…
Sure would, Quality player, shame about the injuries tough
Tony Starks
agree. Exactly what i said in my first post when his name cropped up
I dont think we should move in for Joe cole. Not unless we’ve decided to ditch nani . I think valencia is settling in well, and thats only coz he has got to play so many games week in week out. Now if JC were to come, then again the whole nani fiasco might repeat for valencia’s case. I don’t want that. Anyone who comes free cannot have a place at OT! Even keeping him like owen, at a meagre salary, and to be used whenever we wanted(ofc more than owen, Cole is just 28), wouldn’t work. Unnecessary problem of plenty. Giggsy has another year. Till then obertan, tosic, nani and valencia can learn enough, and step up in giggsy’s absence.
Im unsure about Joe Cole. The thing he would be good for is having a winger that is confident of shooting from range because Park and Valencia rarely cut inside and do this but i would rather just give Nani some games because he does this a lot (perhaps too much, but hey!). I like Joe Cole but clearly it is never going to come to this.
He has to want to come, but I don’t Chelsea will want to lose him to us.
All said, it will be fantastic to have him!
Yes. Definitely! I had dream where Cole was playing for us a couple of seasons back he wore the number 11. In the same dream we had Nick Barmby as well.
FFS.
We wont be signing anyone anytime soon for a fee, so Joe Cole on a free would be a really good piece of business!!
Fucking Glazers have really screwed us big time, there’s talk now they are planning to sell carrington to a holdings company and lease it back to us (a holding company linked to them i might add!!) a training facility Utd paid for themselves is to be sold off coz of the fucking Glazers debt!! Fucking OT will be next unless we get these fuckers out!! they are taking the piss, why take fucking money out of the club for themselves instead of using it to pay the fucking debt!! well I know why coz they are fucking rat bastards!! I truly hope the whole of the fucking Glazer family get wiped off the face of the earth!!!!
free yea.., do you think Glazers would pay 120,00 a week? :S if you do, this is reality it wont happen but yea would love him!
Not getting bogged down with the debt talk as I know nish about it but surely Glazers will need to find the money for players. Their future is dependant on United’s success.
King Eric
Spot on mate… its not as if we have nothing to spend at all. Decent players for decent money can always be looked at. As Sir Alex put it, “Value for Money” is the order for the day..
@ King Eric
You would hope so mate but who knows what these fuckers have in store for us now!! The way I see it they will start to asset strip and keep us going as long as poss until they have filled their pockets and we are well and truly fucked!! they dont care about the future of Utd, they are just out to bleed the club dry!! I know they said being a PLC held us back but fucking hell I would prefer that to whats happening now!!
OMG….The glazers are planning to transfer the carrington training complex to their holding company and leasing it back to the club!!
This is not on….we are Manchester United not an asset stripping project.
GLAZERS OUT RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!
BEFORE THEY RIP THE HEART AND SOUL OUT OF THIS CLUB!!
There isn’t a club out there who wouldn’t take Joe Cole on free.Can’t see us meeting his wage demands,far more likely City will end up getting him.
There isn’t a club out there who wouldn’t take Joe Cole on free.Can’t see us meeting his wage demands,far more likely City will end up getting him.
@Rewind They’ve been peeling the layers to get to the heart and soul and now they are making their move. Its ridiculous and I wonder how long before a demonstration.
Why isn’t any protesting organized against the Glazers before games? Send them a message. It sickens me what they’re doing to the club.
Regarding Joe Cole on a free transfer, then I would say yes, it wouldn’t be a bad piece of business. But I doubt he wants to join us. The minute Chelsea would find out we’re interested in him wouldn’t they tie him up?
I just hope we see some action on the transfer market next summer, I think we need it. In my opinion we should be looking for a keeper (since Edwin is retiring soon), a left winger and a striker. We’ll be getting a “new” midfielder in Owen Hargreaves when he returns.
if you look at it like this micheal owen and joe cole both cost nothing and would cost in wages 160 grand a week
they are 2 fantastic players to have in a squad for little money
also i know 80k a week isnt little money but at united its low
off topic but 50 cent playing for united??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZBWwKMd1zA
in a shot, he’d be a great player for us!
100% YES from me.
Always liked the lad, gets his head down and plays football – never in the papers, very talented!
Joey Cole would be amazing. He would be able to express himself more at United unlike he does at machine like Chelsea. Can’t see it happening though but would be great signing.
yes, for free, definitely
I’d be happy to see him at United but I think he’ll either sign with Chelsea or join his old mucker ‘Arry at Spurs.
£120K A WEEK??? FOR KICKIN’ BALL??? you lot are mad . . .
Absolutely. This would enable us to cash in on Nani, Park & Tosic, and still have time to find a replacement for the future. We would be freeing up the abovementioned trio’s wages, but I still feel £120K is a bit too much, considering his history with injuries.
on a free transfer? why not! as long as he scores the winner at the stinking bridge. to be fair, i’ve always thought he’d have better career numbers by now, but when healthy he has top notch skill.
anybody have a guess when we get to see mame make his united debut?
Joe Cole is one of the rare few Chelsea players who I think are in fact good and worth the respect…..we need players like him who can command in the midfield.
120k salary might be a lot but you would have to consider that in any case his salary isnt gonna be lower than 100k and the difference (for 4 years, say) is only 4m which isnt that much considering that if we get him it’s on a free…..
@Rooninho
“anybody have a guess when we get to see mame make his united debut?”
He came on for 15 minutes against Birmingham City, but 3 minutes later Fletcher was sent off so Rooney dropped back into midfield and Mame was left on his own upfront so he barely got to touch the ball. He showed good pace and energy in attempting to close down their players who were dominating possession in the final minutes. An unfortunate debut.
@chrispiano
for fucks sake! thank you of course! to be honest i had to work and couldn’t follow it live, and after checking the result i couldn’t bear to watch the whole recording when i got home, and the following depression made me completely ignore the telly, replays, news highlights, and even this blog since then!
i don’t take poor results for united very well. ignorance is bliss sometimes!
Should offer him what he wants, now. He’ll be back as good as he was before his injury, you can count on that. Coley coming in and Tosic and Nani going out will see us sign a better player, meaning a better all round team, and make about 20 million into the bargain, which would enable us to sign a quality keeper like Akinfeev.
go, mame… it’s your birthday
mame, i’m glad to have you at da club, you sure ain’t a wanksta.
I see Ljajic has signed for Fiorentina. The Glazers missed a trick there. They could have made a huge profit and earned themselves even more management fees and loans from the club as a reward for their acumen. Maybe they’re not quite the sharp financial geniuses we thought they were………
…oh good!!!
Now they’re ready to flog off Carrington.
What financial wizards those Glazers!!!
If he’s available on a free then why not. Fergie has always been a fan, so he might take a keen interest on his situation. It’s all speculation though and expect him to sign a new deal with the rentboys soon.
absolutely. as much as i hate chelsea, they do have some quality players i’d take in a heartbeat. i’d take cole in a second…especially to play down the left. can’t we ship nani out this winter anyway he’s completely useless.
If we can get him for free, yes why not. He is the only chelsea player I have respect for, and the only player who hasn’t completely lost his qualities. The question is, would he want to come to Utd or move to a non-rival club to show respect to chelsea fans.
I honestly cant see this happening.
It will be a kiss and make up and sign a three year deal signed soon.
His agent is earning his 10% by releasing clients situation to the general media which will get the chav fans on the case on his behalf.
Call me cynical but no way he will leave on a free.
Shame, he could definitely do a job for us with him and El Pele Blanco linking up.
On a free yea definitely, we’re in desperate need for a left winger and he’s a completely different kind of player to Valencia so why not!
Wages are steep for a players who’s barely kicked on a ball for over a year but an injured Joe Cole is a better player than a fit Nani.
I must agree with Scott on the sweat bands – they have got to go!
Lets be honest here and admit that just because he’s english doesn’t mean he’s good. He’s an iffy winger. When he’s on form he is a spectacular creative force in the midfield. When he’s not he over does his step over and completely neutralizes himself.
I’m not sold at all. Not on the wages he’ll want. He’s a 70-80k player max. Not the same class as Essein at all.
Only rentboy that’s worth having, but it won’t happen.
Joe Cole is exactly the kind of player we need to spark our midfield.. if it’s possible, which I doubt, Fergie should definately sign him. Not only would I sign him but his name would be one of the first on my teamsheet. Not appreciated at Chelsea so ya never know! Would be a class signing on a free..
Even if £100k a week is less than some of his teammates it’s still a ridiculous amount of money to earn.
i would love to get joe cole!!!
joe cole would be a good signing. the fact that hes english makes it even better. hopefully he could fill the problem left wing area
I was fortunate enough to coach him as a youngster in the academy set up at Charlton. West Ham poached him from there so it would be great to poach him on a free from the rent boys! He’s one of only 2 boys I’ve ever written to United urging them to sign so would love to see him join the reds. When fit & on song he gets you off your seat. Regrettably I can’t really see it happening – I think he really wants to make it work with the rent boys.
Whetever happened to Nani?
The only way United can probably introduce players is on free transfers… Like Owen. Due to the enourmous debts at Utd they will be financially crippled for many many years to come. What has happened to Leeds could happen to man utd but 10x more severe. When you consider half their first team, first choice players are all but finished and either Real or City waiting to pinch Rooney then things are looking pretty grim. Fergie knows the writing is on the wall and Ill be suprised to see him do another season after this. Man utd need to spend a few years in the lower leagues and consolidate. Look at Carlos Tevez at City… He knows a thing or two about football and when he is or isn’t onto a good thing – He’ll win many Titles at City, as for Joe Cole… even on a free, do utd seriously think they are an attractive proposition for him (don’t think so).
Apologize for this basic question, but when people talk about a player on, for example, 100k per week, do they mean 52 x 100k = 5.2m per year, or do they mean 38 x 100k = 3.8m per year?
On a different point, my optimistic interpretation of the bond offering is that, if successful, it will undoubtedly improve the financial position of the team (both by reducing interest expense overhang and providing more financial covenant freedom). Of course, to be successful, the bond offering document had to give a very unpleasant and detailed description of what has been going on (as well as the boilerplate parade of horribles about what could go wrong in the future so as to protect the club against complaints from purchasers of the bonds), but that has been the reality for years now (and the team has done quite well).
My bottom line hope is that the Glazers realize they can only maximize the value of their equity investment in the club (which, of course, is second in line to all the debt getting paid first) by keeping it successful. You don’t get the sort of > billion pound valuations they need for their investment to be successful based on niggling year-to-year operating profitability and mediocre performance. That kind of valuation will be more associated (as most large sports investments are) with a huge vanity/ego project (i.e. owning one of the biggest (if not the biggest) clubs in the world).
If Chelsea are offering him £100K he isn’t going to leave them just because someone else is offerring £120K, unless he’s not happy there. If we were to offer him £150K that might tempt him. That would cost about the same as buying him for £20m and paying him a more normal salary. Not an obvious bargain for a 28 year old.
He’d be better than the dog shite that is Park and Nani
Absolutely
Jole Cole isn’t free. He costs £120,000 a week. We haven’t got that kind of money to invest in one player…unless, as the Glazers have pointed out in their asset striping manual, it becomes ‘necessary’ to sell more of the family silver. If Rooney is sold, as looks increasingly likely, then we might be able to look at paying a total of £8 million a year for a player…at least for a year or so.
Another point the Glazers make…unless we make use of a £75 million credit agreement, which has stood at £50 million previously, but has not been touched, then we will have to balance the cost of players coming in with those going out. We are not going to use that £75 million, that is what Fergie is going on about when he is saying there is no value in the market, and if we ever did then we could wave goodbye to Rooney at the very next transfer transaction this club made because we couldn’t tolerate taking on more debt and interest without selling him.
So, Carrington sold, Rooney the only top player that the Glazers could possibly mean when they ‘warn’ in their rape manual that other top players might have to be sold to balance the books. The option to sell OT aswell if the Bonds are issued, and holding companies that can syphon money away from the club to pay off their own personal debt if the Bond issue is made- to do whatever they want with once their loans are out of the way. Payments of millions being made by the club to a maze of different companies…all owned by the Gazers. The nightmare is finally here guys! No use burying our heads in the sand and talking about transfers or players coming in. Every player we get in will hasten Rooney’s departure as the Glazers have written themselves.
Owners serious about this club and it’s present situation would simply batton down the hatches and make do with what we have got, and for many years to come. If they had the millions the Glazers have in personal fortunes they would pay this debt off, but they are not interested. United is going to make these guys a profit and they are prepared to get it any way they have to. They will only strengthen the team for short term goals of maintaining revenue streams at a high enough value to pay the interest on debts…until they can transfer those, through the agreements made for the Bond issue, over to the club and transfer assets – like Carrington and Rooney – over to their holding company (= themselves).
Let’s not join in and add fuel to the media and Glazer circus any longer. We know now what has been behind the transfer smokescreen for the last three seasons. We now know why Tevez and Ljajic were treated in a manner that doesn’t befit a club of our stature. We know now that we have been absolutely shafted by all concerned at Manchester United, including a Management team that has obviously been instructed to keep the fans ignorant.
They have seen us as stupid and gullible. Let’s end it now and stop all talk of any transfers. We need to keep the good players we have by developing promising youngsters. The money we save could be vital in keeping International players at United in years to come. They probably wont be good enough on their own to keep us competative at the top of the sport, but we hopefully can be a solid ‘mid-table’ team or Cup team until the dark and evil curse of the Glazers is lifted from our land.
God I’m pissed off! I shared my whole life with this great club. I’m completely heartbroken and sick to the fuckung core of my stomach. Good night guys
@Mr Bluesky
At the moment United can attract better than City. Proved by Ronaldinho,kaka,etoo,mourinho,maicon and hiddink rejecting you.
Tevez will win trophies at City?, well see when he wins but so far all the trophies he has have been won at United
United are a 1000000x bigger club compared to Leeds and there will be people who will want to buy the club if things get worse and the Glazers look to sell
So for the time being dont get ahead of yourselves because you havent won anything yet and a host of top players and managers have rejected you and you are still in our shadow
@ Mr Bluesky
“lets not joke around….what will maicon do at city”
hahahahahaha
the Red C – still can’t understand the whole bond issue but i share your thoughts. there are some more possitive articles in the press but this is really annoying.
There is no way they could even say a word about selling our facilities.
Mr Bluesky – Try listening to your “suave” manager. He has today said United are “immortal”.
Simple 80000for him is fair basic price 40000extrax52x4=1112 is his transfer price let’s reduce some money from sell shirt so a few million for him in four years I think it should be a fair and decent deal why not?
First, the choice between Joe Cole and Nani is no choice at all. Plus, he can teach Gabby Obertan, our heir apparent on the left, a bit about calmness in possession and perfecting that final ball. While Gabby has pace and trickery, like most of our young players, to fully realize his promise he needs someone a bit older and more experienced to work with in training and learn some poise and canniness from. Joe Cole is an obvious choice, as he seems to me to be a quality player and someone we could get for good value.