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August 22, 2011

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Scott Patterson

Scott is the editor of RoM and has a season ticket at Old Trafford. He started The Republik of Mancunia in March 2006. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter or @R_o_M7 on Instagram.

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Twenty20 August 23, 2011

@ smartalex - shut the fuck up and stop pasting like a 3 year old - I am trying to read the comments and you are doing your usual shit of posting crap. You are at fault for people attacking you, even in this thread you attacked the guy who said he did not rate Carrick and Berbatov. Gow the fuck up, I am tired of reading your pathetic shit, at least @ NBI Red Onion actually has something interesting to say and lots of United fans and SAF dont rate Berbatov -who had 2 bad seasons and one decent one - and wanted him sold for the right price - me included, I prefer Wellbeck and youth starting. So shut the fuck up and stop repeat posting your crap and trying to damage @ NBI by lying or I will post all the shit attacks you make on people whose opinion is different to your, you are a shit- strirred.

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wayne August 23, 2011

Although the majority on ROM are Utd fans always going to be disagreements,everyone comes from different cultures,upbringing,religious beliefs,wealth,age etc,etc,so alot of us see things differently,nothing in common but Utd.
I think there's one thing we can all agree on,attacking someone's mum is not acceptable

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smartalex August 23, 2011

Twenty20 has only posted on 4 threads in the history of RoM.

All four times he has only posted after NBI Red Onion has been identified as a Berbatov hater.

Twenty20 only posts to defend NBI Red Onion.

Twenty20 is NBI Red Onion.

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Neil's_a_Red August 23, 2011

At the end of the season I think it will be: 1- United P: 38 W: 26 D: 8 L: 4 For: 84 Against: 28 Points: 86

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DaveG August 23, 2011

@ smartalex

- Mate you are taking the piss now, you are a psycho - STOP REPEAT PASTING YOUR SHIT while people are trying to read comments. You sound like a bloody moron. I went and read NBI's Berbatov comments, they seem fine to me, he slated Berbatov for that shit penalty he took and his lazy attitute in season two when lots of United fans lost faith in him, he parised him in year 3 for good work - so who the fuck made you policeman of the site - I am sorry but I can't stand shits like you who attack people and try to make them look bad because you are clearly trying to make yourself look like a victim when you always DELIBERATELY provoke people then you SELECT their quotes and paste them out of context packaged with lies like a tabloid journalist wannabe which is probably what you are. Moron.

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Legolas August 23, 2011

Jonny Evans is absolutely legitimate at de back. Phil Jones is immense and Cleverley oozes class. now lets snatch Ross Barkley and seal our midfield for years to come. Never been thrilled by any youngster since Rooney's emergence. 17yrs??! de kid is complete! Cleverley, Wilshere, Barkley n Mceachran-England has nothing to worry about.

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Twenty20 August 23, 2011

@ smartalex - you must be right I am @ NBI Red Onion because you say so - it has nothing to do with the fact that I am in a particular time zone so this is the time I comment or that the season JUST started , I only recently signed up and I am not one of those people who comments much offseason and the fact that you piss me and no doubt losts of readers off with your attacks on people, for the record you have attacked 2 people on this post already, childishly making fun of one of their names and mentioning - oh let's HIS MOTHER - I used to love reading this site but since you started posting you have just caused issues with one person or another and it really annoys me because you enjoy undermining people. And yeah, why not moron, since you say so ofcourse we must be the same person. Hmmm wonder who I will be tomorrow.

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smartalex August 23, 2011

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JULY 26, 2011 AT 23:08 Twenty20 says:
@ smartalex

I am afraid I with ... NBI Red Onion on this one
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AUGUST 20, 2011 AT 7:56 Twenty20 says:
@ NBI Red Onion and co -

Agree with you re @ smartalex, even the lads name is cocky and shows his insecurity – people like him put others off posting…!!!! He has no actual intelligent input or analysis on topics, he just cuts and pastes, attacks people or is off-topic but he is always on this site wasting space on every topic, I never bother to read his comments anymore, though your comment did make me look at his usual nonsense this time – ignore it my friend, he is as you say – an attention seeking shit stirrer. Keep up the posts, I do read regularly, though comment little, you, Balaji, Costas, King Eric, Clint, Goat, StatesideAussie and a few others are always worth reading as are some of the less frequent commentators who usually make really good thoughtful ON-TOPIC points…!!!! More of that, less of the smartalex and we would all enjoy this Blog more.
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Twenty20 is NBI Red Onion.

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wayne August 23, 2011

@smartalex i've always known alot had 2 user names,mentioned it a few months ago.The way you pinpont things just easy to prove.
have 2 names and one is to praise or defend the main contributor,that's fucking sad

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Twenty20 August 23, 2011

@ smartalex - let's play your little game - your comments when red Shankhill Skinhead said he was glad Berbativ and Carrick weren't playing:

"buzzkill blackhead, don’t be a zit! Didn’t your mama squeeze you when you were small?"

- So - who is attacking people - YOU.!!!! And who is mentioning someone's MOTHER? You! This is a typical statement from you and I will back up anyone on this site who is abused by a lying playground bully like you. You provoke people. You deserve a ban from this site for your intolerance and stupid abusive remarks, you can not be allowed to always get away with it.

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smartalex August 23, 2011

@wayne - It is sad. It is also very sad that contributors attack our players with hateful lies, then attack anyone who embarrasses them, and attacks innocent mothers that are not even present.

This Twenty20 guise of NBI Red Onion is attempting to validate himself. Sad and wrong.

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NBI Red Onion August 23, 2011

@ wayne - relax mate, I have no issues with you. Ofcourse Twenty20 is me as you snidely imply, I mean smartalex thinks that logical so ofcourse it must be right. Stupid me, how could I slip up so. Yeah you got me. I am also about 40 people on this site cos you know I am so insecure I need to do that, you understand right?

Twenty20 - mate appreciate your interventions on my behalf mate...!!! I must buy you a beer. Feel free to continue...! However, I think all readers would prefer a focus on the game dude, responding to @smartalex with his own posion is a waste of time, there is too much to paste and it makes no difference.

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Tonka Norris August 23, 2011

Sweet, sweet evening and some great flowing play. United have added a muscular dimension to their game and it suits us well. This is a powerful side we've got coming together, despite being a Vidic short of victory. And it's not just Jones, it was all the guys getting stuck in. Sweet!

But you know something that shone just as bright for me? The Giggs assist for Rooney's goal. We have youth, power, skill and stamina, and we got Giggs. This season is going to be magical.

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NBI Red Onion August 23, 2011

@ smartalex - instead of wasting other readers time - why don't we just arrange to meet in person so we can have this out properly, I can send you an email address and we can meet, and then lets see how brave you are at repeating to peoples faces the shit you say to them on the screen.

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smartalex August 23, 2011

That's true. Giggs was so calm and measured in the box, chipping it sublimely onto Wayne's head, who calmly and deservedly placed his header firmly in the corner of the goal, way out of Brad Friedl's reach. There will be times where the youngsters hit the wall, and players like Ryan are perfect to step up and take us through.

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wayne August 23, 2011

@NBI Red Onion i have no idea mate,if Twenty20 has only posted 4 times and each time its to defend you,looking from the outside you must admit incredible odds if there's no connection

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smartalex August 23, 2011

NBI Red Onion

I am not the first on RoM that you have asked to meet up face to face for a physical confrontation. You have a history of falling out with contributors then asking them to meet and fight.

If you are prepared to carry that out by traveling to me, I will happily accept your challenge.

Will you now back out, or do you really have the balls you pretend to show?

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The Truth August 23, 2011

@xol
Why oh why, would you post that rubbish here? Sadly for me once I started reading I couldnt stop. Now, instead of enjoying the comfortable win and our 6/6 success, I am very tempted to track that article and leave a very long rant about what a total dick who ever wrote it is- of course if comments are allowed to be submitted.

@NBI
'While some people on this blog alway seem to always want to start with Berbatov'
I am one of the people that would like to see Berba included in the starting line up, NOT ALWAYS like you seem to think though. lol. I'm not deluded. It's early days, and SAF is going with the best team available to him but I would love it if Berba actually got a chance to claim that spot alongside Wazza. Other than that, good post. I agreed with almost everything else you said.

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smartalex August 23, 2011

JULY 26, 2011 AT 18:37
NBI Red Onion says:
@ SirAlex’sSon – so het up over a few comments, my my, you that worked up sweetheart, why don’t you name a time or place in real life and I would be happy to meet you in person so you can try calling me names without hiding behind a computer screen. I never call people names unless they insult me so come of you little twat, name a time and place or you better stop calling me names because I will find out who you are and I will find you.

JULY 26, 2011 AT 21:05
NBI Red Onion says:
@ SirAlex’sSon – pussyface – unless you are one of SAF’s legitimate son’s you are a bastard by definition – look at your username shitface, name a time and place boy – how about the Community Shield ?- name your location and time or shut the hell up.

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NBI Red Onion August 23, 2011

@ The Truth

Thanks mate. I think if Berbatov stays he will get chances, I am not sure he fits in the pass and move possession model that United seem to be playing though - but let's see, if there are injuries he will likely get a run. I think the competition for places will make a lot of the older players pick up their game, these youngsters are getting betting younger and there are Pogba and Morrison in the queue. I feel for Park though, it's difficult to see him starting as consistently as last year and he was excellent then, it's going to be very tough with Park, Fletch and Valencia all vying for places in a 4-4-2 or 4-5-1.

Also please excuse the rabid posts from @ smartalex - this is what happens when you decide to take on two bullies on a site that threaten to beat you up for an opinion on one post - my apologies mate, I know seeing that crap must irritate other readers.

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eplfan August 23, 2011

It would be very nice if we could get a reddit-like commenting system..it will be much easier to follow the discussions..

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smartalex August 23, 2011

NBI Red Onion is Twenty20. This is categorically proven on:
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/berba-big-step-down-after-united/

At 22:22 NBI Red Onion says:
@ SirAlex’sSon – Yawn…! – you know I am going to listen to @ Twenty20

Yet Twenty20's first comment only appears at 23:08

Coincidentally, prior to this, at 21:21 a comment from 'Number20' defended NBI Red Onion who had attacked 'SirAlex’sSon', asking him to meet for a fight.

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Actually, NBI Red Onion has repeatedly cursed Berbatov, United, RoM regulars and their mothers. He also has repeatedly asked to meet regulars for a fight and threatened to find them if they don't accept his challenges.

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The Truth August 23, 2011

@ NBI
I am not worried though about the playing time of those players you mentioned. They are comfortable with playing few games and can bring their A game each time. Berba though is a confidence player, and it doesnt help when theres fans and opposing fans on his back all the time. Although the pressure has significantly been shifted to De Gea the poor lad. Park/Valencia/Nani are all going to be fighting for one flank. Thats gotta be tough. I am pretty sure that Young will get as many opportunities as possible this year to settle in, the rest have to fight it out. Exciting times ahead. :)

Regarding all the 'rapid posts' I'm used to it mate, I have excelled the art of skimming through the daily bullshit to respond to the few here who are willing to stay on topic. Everyday there seems to be a different person being attacked by the majority here. Part of the package that comes along with this site apparently.

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Neil_loves_United August 23, 2011

Jones seems a natural leader, possible United captain in the future?

Phil Jones superstar, will have more medals than Shearer.

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smartalex August 23, 2011

Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur - 30 minute highlights
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xko3sy_manchester-united-v-tottenham-hotspur_sport

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TheRadLegion August 23, 2011

When I saw Brad Friedel on the line up I was like "Uh oh this can't be good" The guy was -as always- immense. If the man of the match can be from a losing side, my money would be on him. Such a great character. I hope De Gea can learn from him as well when he's reviewing the match.

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Marq August 23, 2011

It was a fantastic performance, full of speed and energy, and the commentator was saying this is one of the best home runs in the club's history? 16 wins in a roll or something like that.

Makes me think, when Sir Alex talked about Barcelona being the benchmark. I don't think Sir Alex is trying to built a team to beat the current Barcelona side, I think he is building a team that will take over the mantle of being the team to beat in Europe after this current Barcelona side moves into transition, which is sooner rather than later.

That said, speed and energy won't win you all the matches, the old heads are still very very important. There will be games where we need to slow it down, so the likes of Giggs & Berbatov are going to be very important in time to come.

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StatesideAussie August 23, 2011

Haven't read all the comments. But I hope some of the people who spent large parts of last season slagging of Jonny Evans have manned up and admitted they wrong. He wasn't MOTM. but he's back, and it's a welcome sight.

Really can't find anything worth criticizing from that game. Jones, Anderson and Cleverly were all outstanding -- Anderson and Cleverly really seem to be getting along nicely, don't they? Especially with WR10 dropping back to help. There were a few poor decisions here and there, but can't complain.

Exciting times! Even that scouse cocksucker McManaman, who normally can't wait to stick it into us, seemed taken aback by how slick it all was. When asked at the end about The Arse visiting next weekend, all he could so was say, "No no no -- wrong place to come and play next week."

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Corea August 23, 2011

Yeah, great game yesterday.
Expected Berba to play in the starting line-up but Wellbeck was great on the day and not only today.
We had a discussion with King Eric about how we feel this season would be something of the reminiscence of the 06-07 season and i see all the signs of this to happen. Finally we are there to see the best attacking football with flair.
Clev, Jones, Smalling, Wellbeck, De Gea and then Ando, Evans etc a great sight to behold. The future is Mancunian Red.
Liked how we spread the passes in our own half with the balls to De Gea to help him feel the feel of the British game. Second goal was magic.
We are there even though we can easily draw with Arsenal ? :-P No way but there is always a chance some of the "more" positive ones coming here and spreading their disgust.

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rnicolas August 23, 2011

I can't believe some of the guys said that Scholes got out just in time. Scholes would boss them any day any night in a game.
Great win, great moral boosting surge from Tom & Danny.
Le Arse couldn't come at a better time.

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Corea August 23, 2011

Tom Cleverson is also a good good footballer :-D

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/first-goal-vital-harry-230811.html?

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CedarsDevil August 23, 2011

Corea - lol Well spotted

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CedarsDevil August 23, 2011

Right, as a supporter I am obviously selfish and I want my team to reach perfection I suppose... For that I want us to improve our corners.... The ball hardly gets over the first man and when we play it short it always seems to go to waste....

Mind you with a performance like last night's I would not mind getting any corners! lol

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CedarsDevil August 23, 2011

# If we do not get any corners #

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Corea August 23, 2011

CedarsDevil - i kinda liked how Nani and Young communicated with each other. They will switch flanks and could well be a nightmare for our opponents.
They also switched rounds taking corners. With Young in the team our corners and set pieces in general will surely improve a lot.

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giggs12gerrard0 August 23, 2011

Over the moon about last night, that is as good as 90 mins of football as we saw at OT all last year! Our counter attacking flair was brilliant.

I am also going to say that MOM for me by a country mile was Jonny Evans, he has had his knockers including myself but last night he was unreal. He commanded the defense, held the line and his positional play was fantastic.

How good is it to see such a young team playing so well and gelling together, christ Rooney was one of the mature players!

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Costas August 23, 2011

I hope Stateside Aussie is right about Evans, but some habits are hard to kill. I think I noticed a comment before the game how this game was do or die for him. Ugh.

Speaking of Evans, De Gea still hasn't conceded a goal with Jonny and Jones playing in front of him.

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Balaji Sivaraman August 23, 2011

Great Morning ROM!

@Cedars, I don't think Nani should be taking any corners and free-kicks for non-scoring positions at all. I love the lad and think he is great and all that, but it's been pretty well established that delivering a good dead ball for our beasts to attack is not one of his stronger aspects. Young also missed a few corners yesterday which was surprising to see. But he should be taking all corners from either side unless Giggs is there and all free-kicks from non-scoring spots as well. His delivery is spot on and almost always gives something for the defence to do. If we see Nani's clearing the first man, that in itself is a great sight.

God, how awesome is it to be waking up after a performance like that. As the Old Scouse McManaman said, "Wrong place to visit at the wrong time." Arsene must be taking extra visits to the restroom thinking about Sunday. The man must be shitting diarrhea all over the place. Without Fabregas, Nasri, Gervinho, Song etc. This could be another 6-1 on the cards IMO, which still remains the performance to beat at OT in the league.

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CedarsDevil August 23, 2011

Corea - Agreed to Nani & Young, it was also nice to see Young drift inside at times... He can play that role just behind the striker. It is a blessing to have to much talent, all our front players can switch positions during a game and therefore confuse the hell out of the opposition

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Balaji Sivaraman August 23, 2011

@Costas, Yeah, I was sort of thinking about that in a weird sense yesterday - Whether playing with youngsters like Jones and Evans who are also just settling in is helping De Gea's game rather than it would be with experienced stalwarts like Rio and Vidic. I know it sounds completely illogical, but from his perspective, he knows that everyone in front of him is not as intimidating as those two. Maybe something worth noting as well. ;)

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giggs12gerrard0 August 23, 2011

@Stateside

Morning mate missed your post above when I typed mine, i was at the game and for me Evans was MOM. I watched his movement and leadership and he was trult brilliant last night, he has really turned the corner. Rio will be a worried man coming into his later years with the rising stock of Evans and Jones, not included Smalling as I thnk he will be our right back for the season!

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Mr C August 23, 2011

It was a good performance but let's not go over the top with superlatives. It's only the 2nd game and Spurs were pretty ordinary second half and posed little attacking threat. That figures as Defoe is absolute crap.

This being said, Spurs got comprehensively tanked by what isn't even United's strongest line up. The main positive for me was seeing the young 'uns and new boys step up to the plate as if they'd been first teamers for years. They get stuck in and are attack minded -no negative nonsense. Special mention to Clevery, Smalling, Jones and Anderson in this regard. De Gae's distribution is sharp and excellent which helps set up our attacks well. DDG has a good footballing brain for goalie! Young continues to impress throughout and looks like a very good buy. Danny grew in stature second half and kudos to him for keeping going after a relatively poor first - he
Danny deserved his goal and excellently set up Ando's. However, it was a little a disappointing to see our two best strikers, Berba and Chico, sitting on the bench from the off, as both need game time and are still, at this stage, better players although competition for places is good. Class is permanent and all that...

When JSP came on United's work rate kept up meaning no mercy for the tiring Spurs. Good call.

Sneijder? Not worth the money and never wanted him! I hope that issue is dead and buried now. After all, we still have Pogba and Morrison waiting in the wings...

From what I've seen so far United have by far the strongest squad in the Premiership despite the big money spent on their playthings by the variety of oligarchs, despots and hub cab stealers we're up against. Not being complacent it just looks that way. Europe is perhaps a different issue for a different day.

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Mr C August 23, 2011

Sorry - forgot to big up Jonny Evans on his performance yesterday - he had great game.

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CedarsDevil August 23, 2011

Costas - Sir Alex does not show faith in a player out of sympathy and hence he kept believing in Evans because he sees the potential in the lad, something us supporters only judge via 90 minutes. There were glimpses of brilliance from Evans yesterday, something most of us always knew he had. Hopefully now his confidence is back he will be the player we want him to be. With him, Jones and Smalling we will end up with the best 3 center backs in Europe very soon

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Costas August 23, 2011

One thing about Berbatov. Imo, there's no denying that he's 4th choice right now. However, just like when Hernandez started getting the nod ahead of him in early March, I don't think it's because he's done anything wrong. What the boss' team selections during the summer and at the early parts of this season tell me, is that he hasn't given Berba plenty (if any) opportunities to show how valuable he can be to the team. Just adding that because you usually get comments like "Welbeck has impressed more than Berbatov", but that isn't the case imo. Don't know where we will go from here, but maybe accepting PSG's offer wouldn't be a bad idea for all parties.

@Balaji

Lol, I kind of suspected the same thing too. That maybe he communicates better with the younger defenders because they are closer to his age. Plus, imagine being a nervous United rookie and having Vida ahead of you! :lol:

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Costas August 23, 2011

@Cedars

Hi mate. Well for the life of me, I could never understand why a United youngster should be put in a do or die situation just because he had one average season. I think people forget that Brown's United career started promisingly and then he started playing poorly in his 3rd season. He was 22 at the time. Sort of reminds you of Evans' situation. And in hindsight, Brown didn't end up as a bad United player did he? Anyway, I'll comment more on Evans and Jones (who seems to have impressed many in here last night) after I've watched the game.

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aimanunited August 23, 2011

Corea, cleverley + anderson = Cleverson > Kleberson
:)

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Mr C August 23, 2011

Cedars- I take your point about Jones, Smalling and Evans but so not sure about your maths :)

After all, we already have the 2 best centre backs in Europe in Vidic and Ferdinand...

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giggs12gerrard0 August 23, 2011

@Mr C

I think it is fully justified to go over the top as I think the performance and kids were nothing short of brilliant. It is not the the finished article but for all the questions everyone had about our defence, youngsters, centre midfield, and Danny boy up top then the lads answered in style.

Lets not forget that was our first home game against one of the top five clubs in the country and we dominated them.

I get what your saying we dont need to get carried away but I did not come away from the game all last year as excited as I did last night, it was like 94 all over again.

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MG August 23, 2011

It is being reported this morning that city officials are in talks with the FA and the league to postpone it now for the season meaning that city will become champions and get one over their bitter rivals.

As always no one was available for comment - but a source close to OT and SAF was seen:

:lol:

;)

:lol:

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