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Ahead Of Our Game Against Spurs...

August 22, 2011

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Scott Patterson

Scott is the editor of RoM and has a season ticket at Old Trafford. He started The Republik of Mancunia in March 2006. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter or @R_o_M7 on Instagram.

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CedarsDevil August 23, 2011

Mr C - Right then, make it 2 now, 3 in a short while that leaves us with 5 of the best in Europe! How about that for maths eh? lol

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Jeet August 23, 2011

I think I get what Mr. C is saying...I am as pleased as anyone else with yesterday's result and as excited as anyone else about the future, but just want to highlight a few areas of improvement. Don't get me wrong, but we all agree aboput what is so great with this team, and many of the points below are minor, and to do with inexperience, but they are there for talking through, nevertheless.
1. Obvious one, DeGea - sure he is 20, sure he will be the world's best in 10 years time, but heck, that's a very long time! I would be lying if I said I am not concerned about his ability to handle the aerial ball.
2. Evra - from a player, I loved with all my heart, he is fast becoming a player who I am terrified will let the team down. Flinging himself on the floor when one on one with Lennon, didn't impress me at all, nor a number of other occasions when he wasn't in position.
3. Minor points - the team must learn to use Nani and Cleverly better. For me, Nani is the most skillful, and Cleverly the most intelligent player on the team. Cleverly makes excellent use of the ball when he has it, but yesterday he wasn't getting much of it. right now, everything is going through Young, and very soon teams will wise up.

What is really beginning to stand out is the superior fitness level of United players compared to most other teams. Shitty ran out of steam in the second half in CS, Spurs never really found steam (compare to last season, when they were one of the fastest teams around, and no, it's not only the Modric factor), Liverpool and Chelsea didn't look sharp either, and Arsenal is being Arsenal. We aren't exaclty in mid-season form, but we look, fitter, sharper, hungrier than other teams. That's partly due to a younger squad, but we should also acknowledge the backroom staff (especially, as we give them a lot of flak - e.g., "ohh, for fucks sake why can't they get rio fit?!!") for the fantastic work they must have put in during preseason.

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MG August 23, 2011

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/947353/juan-mata:-arsenal-and-spurs-%27don%27t-compare%27-to-blues?cc=5739

Oh dear - another one with dreams ;)

:lol:

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bayobuya August 23, 2011

Don't know if this has been said above (too many posts for me to read) but if Snieder had been signed and he put in a performance like Clerverely did we would be saying what a graet signing he is and how he is worth 35Mil + 200 000/week. Well done lad.
@Denton Davey you were right about Welback.
Not enough superlatives to describe Jones performance, Vidic and Rio have a fight on their hands coz Jone & Evans were phenomenal. What a game!!!!!!

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Corea August 23, 2011

Wenger said both clubs from Manchester want Nasri. If he comes we will be fully-equiped.
Of course it's too early to sign praises and have a strong belief we will deal with the whole thing which is a long and grueling season with midfield we have.
Premierleague might well be enough as for the CL i will gratefully wait one more season for the arise of the other youngsters.

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Jeet August 23, 2011

@MG: Mata's bullshitting of course, but in a curious inadvertant manner, he is also saying what is true. Compared to Spurs or LeArse, I must say Chelsea is showing more ambition as of date.

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Costas August 23, 2011

Just saw some extended highlights. I think Tottenham must have had shot towards goal from inside the box and about 10 from outside. At some point they are on a counter attack and they prefered to shoot outside the box. At anothet point, Fattlestone has 2 attempts outside the box in succesion. Nice exercise for DDG. And just an indication of how tactically savy the next England manager is. ;)

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giggs12gerrard0 August 23, 2011

@costas

I was saying the same thing last night mate , it was so obvious that Arry bought the media drivel on DDG and advise to shoot on sight regardless. Clown

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giggs12gerrard0 August 23, 2011

@Jeet

Completely agree on Point 2 about Paddy, i am not jumping on his back but he has gone from being our most assured player in 2009/2010 to being very positionally niaive.

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Costas August 23, 2011

@giggs12gerrard0

Ah you did? Didn't have the time to check all the comments. It was painfully obvious. I'm actually in shock that Defoe shot first time after DDG spilled the ball instead of taking it outside the box and then shooting. Imo that's a disrespectful approach to the game. At the same time, it rendered Tottenham harmless, so thanks Harry. :)

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Vilhelm28 August 23, 2011

Shame on me for calling a sub of welbeck for Berba at halftime. SAF's talk at halftime really helped and got the kids into gear.

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Jeet August 23, 2011

@Vilhelm28: That happens to me 3-4 times every season....I keep calling for a sub, and the player who I want subbed scores, often a winner. Thank God I'm not the manager!

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bayobuya August 23, 2011

Rooney celebrated by touching his hair LMAO!

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denton davey August 23, 2011

Jeet @ 9:31: "Evra – from a player, I loved with all my heart, he is fast becoming a player who I am terrified will let the team down. Flinging himself on the floor when one on one with Lennon, didn’t impress me at all, nor a number of other occasions when he wasn’t in position."

In the situation you are discusssing in last night's match, Patrice was tripped/pushed from behind.

I'm not going to go to the wall to defend Evra's positioning because he is getting himself caught out of position in crucial situations in big games - see, for example, the first goal Barcelona scored in May at Wembley. BUT last night he was fouled by Aaron Lennon.

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denton davey August 23, 2011

bayobuya @ 9:43: "@Denton Davey you were right about Welback."

Thanks, but it ain't over 'til it's over - and it ain't over yet. For me, Danny Welbeck's speed, strength, directness, and athleticism fit better with these other youngsters. For me, Chicharito's electric pace and intuitive sense of space/timing works better, too. BUT in a tight match - or one in which UTD need to get the ball and keep the ball - Dimmy has lots to offer.

I wrote in May that in my opinion it was a huge mistake by SAF to have kept him off the team-sheet in May @ Wembley v. Barcelona - coming into the second half with the score tied was a situation that cried out for both Nani and Dimmy to replace SirRyanGiggs and ThreeLungPark.

Right now - on the heels of two wins in two matches in which Danny Welbeck has played well and Chicharito has made his first appearance of the season - it sure seems like Dimmy is an expensive luxury. BUT it's a long season and if the OldFootieKnight wants to keep him as insurance then I might cavil at that decision but, really, who is the man-with-the-plan and who is the guy at the computer keyboard, eh ?

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StatesideAussie August 23, 2011

Denton ... your opinions about The Berb are well know ... but if you continue to express them like that, it's fine by me. Cheers mate!

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StatesideAussie August 23, 2011

@giggs12gerrard0 ... well, I'll never argue with someone who was at the match, because I've always acknowledged how hard it is to judge things from TV, especially positional play. Something to do with sticking a frame around the action and cutting off part of the field. I certainly thought Evans played very well. jones stood out more on TV, but as I said, that's TV. Cheers!

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denton davey August 23, 2011

StateSideAussie @ 13:55: "your opinions about The Berb are well know … but if you continue to express them like that, it’s fine by me. Cheers mate!"

Right back at you, m8 ! I always enjoy bantering with you - and while I read almost all of your posts, I am silent about most of them because I agree with them.

My opinions about The Berb might be well known but they seem to be little understood by people (not you, at least not always !) who want to pigeon-hole me as a "BerbaHater" and not understand that one can be a "BerbaSceptic".

It's a distinction WITH a difference but perhaps that's a nuance that some can't understand. I've never disputed Dimmy's "necessary" qualities but I do wonder if they are "sufficient" to make him an automatic first-choice. Indeed, for me the issue turns on what he doesn't offer rather more than what he does provide.

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smartalex August 23, 2011

denton davey - how was that maple syrup tongue-lashing from the honey blonde?

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denton davey August 23, 2011

SmartAlex - the wife is out of town so I'm formally celibate for another week. And I've been married for so long that anything else would be "uncivilized".

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smartalex August 23, 2011

denton davey, keep your spirits up by watching United videos on youtube, until Sunday when we take the arsenal apart; and your wife will be back in a flash!

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