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LIVE BLOG: AIK vs United

August 6, 2013

Shaun Payne

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Proverb August 7, 2013

Issue with Ronald...*

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AlphaRS August 7, 2013

United are in decline. No future with Moyes. He'll be sacked within 2 years. We won't win anything. The Evertonisation of Manchester United. Top players don't want to come to United. Eventually we'll lose our best players. City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, Monaco, Anzhi are the clubs United are the way forward. United should be looking up to these clubs but they are falling behind. The interest and support for United will dwindle due to our poor preseason form and lack of success over the next few years. Sponsors will value their deals with United as worthless. Future sponsorships will be worth very little. The Glazers will not be able to service the interest payments on the debt placed on the club. United will then be no more. YAWN...!

Is there anything else the trolls on here would like to add to that? All doom and gloom. It's all getting a bit boring now but keep up the good work in your attempts to predict a United downfall.

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spidey August 7, 2013

@NBI
You mean Dortmund right :P yea you have a point.. He would be good if we get fabregas.. And another interesting thing is the role he played for Japan, starting out on the left and drifting inside he can receive the ball in those pockets ot spaces and wreak havoc.. Anyway bet on him having a much deeper impact this season..

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Diego August 7, 2013

So, Bayern chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge has confirmed the club received offers from England, Spain and Russia for Gustavo (ergo, he probably is for sale). Since the Spanish offers are very unlikely to be from either Madrid or Barca I'd say that if we wanted to, we could quite easily get Gustavo who would be a vast improvement on what we now can stick beside Carrick in MF.

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Proverb August 7, 2013

Rooney's 'injured'
Suarez's 'injured'
Bale's 'injured'

Why can't Ronaldo be 'injured'?!?!

Kagawa and fellaini should stay uninjured. If you know what I mean

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enzophonics August 7, 2013

http://thefaithfulmufc.com/2013/07/29/moyes-needs-steel-fellaini-will-give-united-what-they-really-need/

Good write up on Fellaini - obvious key strengths highlighted. Food for thought. Reminds me of a couple of seasons when we had Fletcher in mid doing a proper midfielder's job but as fans mostv would've welcomed a steller name *insert brazilian/spanish/dutch* and not Darren Fletcher - captain of the Scottish Natnl team.

Fellaini has a similar profile - our Darren was played on wings, rightback, etc but its that grit, determination and long term development curve that I honestly believe Utd would be making a great signing. He will never be a Fabregas, perhaps not even a Toure - but alongside our other players, he will give something that title wining teams need - graft, presence and a fucking afro!

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Proverb August 7, 2013

^ this!

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Proverb August 7, 2013

Fellaini > Fletcher
Lazy > energetic

Fletcher successfully marshals our backline as indicated still has energy to move forward and keep the fluidity going. Carrick is not that fast although he can out for that 'deficiency' as he can certainly pick a pass at stationary can read the game which makes JOB easier for him whereas fellaini bloody fellaini.... Enough said!

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Proverb August 7, 2013

Make out*

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MUFCJord August 7, 2013

Its a shame Nani picked up that injury. I hope he recovers quick and gets back to fitness.

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mjcRED August 7, 2013

Not sure this is the way forward and pretty certain it's not going to help us make any in-roads into developing a team or style of play that has the ability to get any where near europe's top clubs and the standards that were shown towards the end of last seasons competition.

Surely we can produce a player that can do the job Fellaini does? Even Tunnicliffe, with his limited abilities can do the spoiling role that is the core of Fellaini's game?? Is this not the same player who for the majority of last season made Gibson look like Xavi?

I'm tired of hearing things like 'he'll be a good addition to the squad' or 'he can play in a number of positions' when the reality is we need a specialist who will make the position of creative midfielder his own. We have far to many squad players and not enough that truly deserve to be wearing our colours as regular starters and who we can build our game around.

If this transfer goes through, why are settling for a player who is obviously our 3rd or 4th choice? All I can see is that he would be another limited and destructive player who will be blocking the chances of one of our youngsters with good technique from having game time. We would become even more direct than we were last season, a ploy that helped us in the majority of games but did not help us in the majority of key one-off games, both domestically and in the champions league.

I'm trying not to lose sight of the positives of our pre-season, which has been all about the obvious talents of Zaha, Lingaard and most exciting of all Januzaj. But there hasn't been a whole lot more, on top of which is the disruption of Rooney and the club's inaction in granting him his wish to fuck off.

I'm trying to see the positive side of Fellaini's likely arrival, but i can't help think that we are showing that we're content to settle. What worries me is that I cannot say the same thing for any of our domestic or european rivals.

In a summer when we lose Scholes we gain Fellaini. Frightening

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Forever@red@united.com August 7, 2013

@theturth
I understand what your are saying but this is Manchester United and we will always fight to win everything!! It's gonna be one of our hardest season in many years as there has been a lot of changes, ie one of them is mr ferguson!! Maureen is coming into the epl again when a lot of teams are in transition as he did the last time and when times got tough and they were mid table he left as he did before?!? Anyway we have a young squad and a mix of top players which need to stay injury free, our new manager will get time as that's the way our club is run, so if it takes a season for it to gel then so be it " but I tell you one thing about moyes he a fighter and he ain't gonna give up our league title to know one" we won the league last year and we didn't even hit top gear so when it clicks this season with the wingers and the hole team, expect goals and expect great team goals! The title is staying in the red part of manchester! Screen shot this punk lol

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Forever@red@united.com August 7, 2013

I hope we don't sign Fellaini.... He ain't gonna improve the team!! I'd rather wait for the enforcer mr fletcher to make a full recovery but to be honest cant see him being the same!! Anyway charity shield this weekend and then to Swansea next weekend to see our boyz kick ass and retain our title!! Can't fucking wait! One united

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AlphaRS August 7, 2013

@mjcRed
Scholes and Fellaini are different types of players. Using that logic you could say the same about Ronaldo and Valencia. United don't have a Fellaini type of player. Slot him in next to Carrick and it will free him up to use his range of passing.
I think you are doing United players a massive diservice by saying we have too many squad players. Most the players in the squad would walk in to most of the teams in Europe.

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enzophonics August 7, 2013

Why compare Fellaini to an attacking midfielder which he is not. He can attack/score goals and may have been used behind the striker due to his height/ability to score but he is a defensive player who can play box-to-box.

Am not advocating that he is the best player in his position - but neither has Fletch been judged to be by people outside United. Most of these types' hard work and contribution to the team usually go unnoticed anyway.

My own opinion but I'd take an experienced EPL player right now while we groom the younger lads for this position - but if the David Moyes feels someone from within is ready - will happily support him.

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mjcRED August 7, 2013

@alphaRS

I haven't seen anything that Fellaini does that Jones couldn't do when played in centre midfield, even though Jones priority will be to achieve consistent opportunities to make the position of centre back his own this season alongside Vidic. I guess what my issue is is that going back to last season, I cannot remember a time when we chopped and changed our starting 11 so frequently. Every team sheet seemed to throw up a surprise and players who had played well previously were suddenly dropped. As a consequence of this, I think our consistency and style of play suffered, with the only ever present player being Carrick.

If we are to sign Fellaini, I still cannot say who should sit along side him. Cleverly still seems lightweight and fails to consistently impose himself on the opposition and Anderson clearly has fitness issues that prevent him from influencing a game right through. Kagawa would seem to be the most logical. As he could offer the range of passing, guile and drive missing in Cleverley and Andersons's game. Would this mean Moyes using Fellaini as a battering ram type centre forward alongside Van Persie?

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Nesh August 7, 2013

Ando played another 90 minutes! this must be it guys...

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Evans_KickingSkills August 7, 2013

I'd prefer using Januzaj in midfield compared to signing that fugly steamroller known as Fellaini.

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samuel - united WE stand August 7, 2013

People talk about fellaini but no concrete proof that moyes is interested and if he has gone back for him? It's purely because he's ran out of options, he's never been a priority signing that moyes deems will enhance the quality of the central mid, I wonder how fellaini feels about being the last resort?

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mjcRED August 7, 2013

Cannot see where he'll fit in. He might end up being our Andy Carroll. Who next 'big Sam' appointed as our technical director?!

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Yorke, Cole, Sheri, Solks August 7, 2013

"And your job now is to stand by your new manager". SAF

You know what I love about Manchester United. That it has decency at its core. Decent, noble, even courageous human beings - Fergie, Charlton, Busby, Gill, etc.

I hope our fans can do the same. Sometimes the curse of comparison makes the pressure unbearable when we watch other clubs, their transfer activities, their pursuit of glory. But I always remember when Sir Alex upon receiving His FIFA award say that, "at United, we always try to win. We don't always win but we always try to win". And I think that if the current team, present or about to be added, adheres to that, it will always stand our club in good stead, in excellence and in winning ways.

Lets stand by our club and cheer them on in every season. BELIEVE.

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Yorke, Cole, Sheri, Solks August 7, 2013

*what I'm trying to say is, lets not get too despondent about our preseason, our transfer activities, but lets keep believing and keep even our fan based conduct congruent with the United way.

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lordrt August 7, 2013

Not a very flattering result for our boys, although they played well. I am however feeling pessimistic for the community shield match, as well as for our first few games in the league

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The Truth August 7, 2013

@lordrt

I think even below par, off form and jaded after being flown all over the world for the past month we should have too much in our locker for Wigan. I'm not underestimting them though, they are the same team that made mugs of City in the FA Cup final and Owen Coyle knows something about springing an early season upset over United, if you remember the Burnley game in August 2009!

Like Swansea they're already playing competitive games and winning handsomely. People like Dela may scoff at that but we've come unstuck against every other team we've faced so far who were in the middle of their competitive season (AIK, the Japanese teams, Singha Beer XI) and their comparative match fitness was seen as a valid excuse by some for our bad performances. So by the that logic Wigan and Swansea should be tough games for us. But of course people won't hear of that and will call me a troll for even suggesting it. As I said though, I think we will beat Wigan, but wouldn't be surprised if they beat us either.

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thymm50 August 7, 2013

Why can't 3 or more clubs come together and do bargains. eg, Man Utd, Chelsea abd Barca agree thus: Fabregas to United, David Luiz to Barca and Rooney to Chelsea in a 3 way swap deal. I like to dream.

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Markowire August 7, 2013

Another shocking result and performance pre-season. We should be putting 7 or 8 goals past these clowns friendly or not. Not impressed.

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IamWiLL August 7, 2013

As we know, this summer's transfer window is reaching new heights of lunacy, so hows about this one for a theory...

Barcelona have today made a bid for David Luiz, the guardian reports this to be £35million, in a straight cash deal.

Yesterday after the AIK game: David Moyes when asked about the Fabregas debacle replied "I can't talk about that."

United have been debating whether to go for a third bid for Fabregas... supposedly upping it to around 35million.

Barcelona spent a significant amount on Neymar, and yet now suddenly have a significant pot of money to splash on a defender, albeit a position they do need to strengthen.

Where did the money come from eh?

I'll let you decide.

With theories like this, I should be working for the Daily Star.

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King Eric August 7, 2013

Marko. Err no we shouldn't be putting 7 past these. Grow up. Sick of cunts on here. How many who've played in pre season will actually start at Swansea?

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WeAreUnited August 7, 2013

@dela mate I have nothing more to add at your comment August 6, 2013 at 21:39

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Forever@red@united.com August 7, 2013

@iamwill
Hope your theory pans out that way!!!

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The Truth August 7, 2013

Couple of shit Everton cunts on the way according to tomorrow's Guardian. I'm sure most people on this blog will be delighted with that.

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vinnyacardo86 August 8, 2013

@thetruth STFU!

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soccerisfootbal August 8, 2013

what pisses me off is utd aren't willing to spend the big bucks but run their mouth saying we want the highest quality. we want fabregas so we bid 26 fucking million pound.. 10 million less than barca paid arsenal (yes keeping in mind fabregas paid for part of his fee by taking a wage cut) joke. if you have any type of ambition nowadays you have to spend serious cash. just look at how much falcao and cavani went for this summer. sure, the market is inflated, and the money clubs are doing us no favors, but how can we be in 2013 and berbatov in 2008 for 30.75 million is still our record signing, and ferdinand in 2002 is our second highest signing. i mean look at all the clubs with purchases recently that match or exceed our record:

city: aguero, fernandinho
chelsea: hazard, fernandon't
liverpool; andy horseface carroll
bayern munich: j.martinez, m.gotze
barcelona - neymar, fabregas, villa, ibra
r.madrid - ronaldo, illarramendi, ~modric, ~alonso, ~benzema
napoli - higuain,
monaco - falcao
psg - cavani, ~marquinos, pastore, moura

obviously some of those guys were or will be flops, and some of those prices were inflated, but the heart of the issue is if you want quality you need to spend the cash and we are just sitting on our thumbs apparently. we were so fortunate rvp chose us over city, otherwise, whens the last time we bought a proven superstar?

pretty soon we are going to see arsenal join that list. i mean seriously, penny-pinching wenger launched a bid for 40 million pound. have utd ever done that? ever? we want highest quality, but i don't see us putting the money on the table for those premium talents. even when they are are decent prices, like thiago, or isco, or even cheaper guys like strootman, we turn our noses up. seriously, what the fuck are we doing in the market? we are turning our noses on the young talents and are bidding way below market value for the supreme ones. utd need to get their heads checked because i'm tired of scratching my head at some of these seemingly idiotic decisions. who is the moron who convinced us barca would be willing to sell of fabregas so cheaply? they've launched a bloody bid for davd luiz, a defender, that cost more than what we are offering for fabregas. i just have to shake my head here.

watching chelsea get mauled by madrid today just shows me the gap in quality between our midfield and madrids. we just don't spend nearly enough on quality to be competing with the likes of madrid and barca and even bayern munich. the deplorable state of our midfield is due to us only aiming to win domestically. we are getting left behind in europe with all these teams. even psg now has a much stronger squad than we do on paper. we're going to keep getting knocked out early in europe now because all these teams have more quality and more depth and we're so focused on having enough grit to win the league. we apparently have all this money and we're the biggest in the world, but we're still relying on 39 year old giggs and playing players out of position in central midfield and fielding average players like ashley young and i have to question the club's eye for talent and possibly ambition and status in europe.

i will be so dissappointed if we end up with a batteringram like fellaini and go for an extra leftback in baines. we are just going for squad players intead of tangibly boosting the number of high quality talent in our team. thats. two or three key injures (vidic, carrick, rvp) or losses in form and we look seriously weak on paper. having baines and fellaini will not elevate us to compete with the elite in europe, lets face the facts here.

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Forever@red@united.com August 8, 2013

@thetruth
As u know so much about football and players,y don't ya take your badges and apply for the united job!! I could see us dominating world football with your vast skill set and knowledge.

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Forever@red@united.com August 8, 2013

@Soccerisfootball
Understand what your saying but our team which a lot of our own fans are giving stick about, should have knocked real out last season! We have a young team which will only get better and moyes can only improve as time goes on! Be patient lad... We will get the right signings that our manager thinks will improve the squad and team! Our fans know that much about football, then y don't they take there badges and go for the united job.. Some people make me laugh!!

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soccerisfootbal August 8, 2013

Are you fucking blind mate? Real Madrid were in bad form when we met them, their team has way more quality that ours in midfield. and look at their additions this summer: Isco, Illarramendi, Carvajal (to make up for the weak link in their defense, slow Arbeloa), a proven world class manager in Ancelloti and now they are chasing Gareth bale. if Utd truly want to be in going head to head vs the likes of Madrid and Munich in Europe, you need to keep adding quality and retain their star players. If you stand still in football you bloody get left behind. either you start setting the expectations lower and rely on the academy a bit more than last season, or you go out and buy the necessary quality in order to compete with the biggest teams in the world. plain and simple. but this foolishness and idleness in the market, combined with us opening our mouths to be after the best players and to be Publically bidding on Fabregas, just makes us look like mugs if we don't seriously pursue anyone with the cash we'e got from all these Sponsorships. The bids we put in for Fabregas were embarrassingly low. we've yet to bid on anyone for more than 30 million pound, yet us fans are dreaming of a Ronaldo return or signing Gareth Bale or some other nonsense that would cost us at least 60 million pound when even arsenal are showing more ambition in the market this summer by bidding 40 million for Suarat. It's a sodding joke.