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LIVE BLOG: Scunthorpe 2 - 5 United

September 22, 2010

Scott is the editor of RoM and has a season ticket at Old Trafford. He started The Republik of Mancunia in March 2006. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter or @R_o_M7 on Instagram.

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Jonny September 22, 2010

@FletchTHEMAN

Okay lets look at the Gibson example in more detail.

He played 15 games in the league last season.
He played 3 times in the league cup.
He played 4 times in the Champions League.

In terms of experience, those three league cup appearances aren't going to have too big an impact by comparison.

If we are talking about physical fitness, it is irrelevant, players train all the time and don't even need to play to be fit.

If we are talking about match fitness, meaning getting a consistent run of form going, then this game is also irrelevant, as reserve team games are every week and present better opposition than Scunthorpe.

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FletchTHEMAN September 22, 2010

Anyone able to tell me how to post to the live feed! I have put in my User name and posted 3 times but my comments never appear. :(

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parryheid September 22, 2010

Sprite.

How the hell did you know what number to key in ? I've had sopcast for weeks and always struggle to get the game I want I thought there would be an idiot guide.Is there? and if so how do I get to it.

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Always Be Closing September 22, 2010

@Jonny - obviously they don't if such a squad with experienced players is only winning 2-1. These matches keep confidence up, give great match fitness run-outs and are ideal for players like Owen and Chicha who aren't getting too many games due to the pressure of performance needed with Berba going so well.

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Paul parker September 22, 2010

Does any one tell me if tom cleverley is injured
if not what was the point in going to Wigan 2nd
game he isn't even on the bench

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FletchTHEMAN September 22, 2010

Jonny, We NEVER play the Reserve league games at Wembley and they aren't counted as a senior trophy. CC is very different from a reserve game. Early doors, we will get games with Scunthorp etc., but the Arse played Totty yesterday and both teams used their fringe players for that. That was a decent game for 90 minutes. Also, Reserve games are not likely to see the types of challenges that Scunthorpe is dishing out because nobody cares about a reserve game. Believe you me, Scunny lads care a great deal about this game. This game may define many of their lives. At the end of this game, Chicho will know what british football is all about, and that is a fact. On the rest, we can agree to disagree. Cheers mate.

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Jonny September 22, 2010

@Always Be Closing
The problem with Owen and Hernandez is that we have too many strikers, not that there aren't enough opportunities.

Owen will be gone by this time next year I think.

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Always Be Closing September 22, 2010

@Jonny - I don't dispute that, Owen won't be here that long but having that cover is invaluable in the bigger games. Chicha will come gold, he needs to settle and see what footie here is about.

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TonyBee September 22, 2010

what the fuck do I know....well done Mikey Owen

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RedevilsAdvocate September 22, 2010

quiet anyone u says Owen is finished

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willierednut September 22, 2010

Good finish Mickey.

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Always Be Closing September 22, 2010

MICKKKEEEY!

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Jonny September 22, 2010

@FletchTHEMAN

That's a good point but by the time we get to the semi final and final stages of both cups, it will be a first team line up. Younger players won't get much of a look in and the first team will have another 3-4 games to worry about.

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TonyBee September 22, 2010

fuckinh hell Parkie jumped on that one 4-1

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Chicharito14 September 22, 2010

6-1 drubbing inevitable.

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FletchTHEMAN September 22, 2010

PARRRRRRK! OK this is going to get ridiculous. Park is great example. Cracking player. Love to see him do well. Often needed in the early-mid games of the Champions League, rather have him out their getting the hard challenges than many others. Guys like him, PIG, Brown, they will be in the CC final. They will play every game.

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TonyBee September 22, 2010

@redecilsadvocate.
Owen is finished as NO 1 STRIKER...only be used as a backup now and he knows it.... he willl score against teams like tonights lot but will always struggle against top teams.

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Chicharito14 September 22, 2010

Newcastle 3 - 1 chelsea

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Toms September 22, 2010

Despite being 4-1 down, I have to give some props to the excellent scunth crowd. Definitely something Utd. fans could appreciate and sometimes learn form.

Owen will be gone by next year. Chicho has to be given atleast 6 months to bed in and Kiko will come good as well.

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willierednut September 22, 2010

I think Gibbo has played really well tonight, but Ando still looks off the pace. Why are people surprised about our fans? Best in the land.

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FletchTHEMAN September 22, 2010

TonyBee, Agree about Owen. But Owen is this years Henrik Larsen. Came in for only 13 games, but everyone agrees he was a key man for the runin. Owen will get chances and will play a role. Will move on probably. Hope he leaves on a high personally. He is a cracking talent, just a bit to short and lagging on the long runs. Just a bit too brittle as well.

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samuel - united WE stand September 22, 2010

@Jonny, you need to quit this mentality of underestimating teams, if we had put out a full reserve against scunthorpe tonight without experience , we'd have got battered, you clearly don't take this competition and the teams in it serious but its a good competition to bring youth players through and give games to fringe players .

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Sir berba September 22, 2010

Is that newcastle vs chelsea scoreline correct?

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samuel - united WE stand September 22, 2010

Owen was never going to be a starter at united, his all round game leaves alot to be desired, he can poach goals but wont offer much else, we can't afford to carry passengers in big games.

Playing well tonight though but his contract won't be increased except if he wants to warm a bench for a while.

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Jonny September 22, 2010

@samuel - united WE stand

We are winning 5-1, it could end up 6 or 7.

Hardly underestimating them am I :)

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portugueseprincess September 22, 2010

Vamos la Bebe! :)

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willierednut September 22, 2010

I need an adult!!

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Jonny September 22, 2010

I see BEBE!!

I see bollocks too!!

haha Mike Phelan thought it was O'Shea at first, had to check he was still sat on the bench

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portugueseprincess September 22, 2010

I love Mike Phelan! He is so likeable.

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Jerry Jack September 22, 2010

BEBETO

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FletchTHEMAN September 22, 2010

For me, Smalling has played very well. Also very pleased with Ando and PIG.

Best sighting for me, GHTT on the live blog!!!!!!!!!!! We need a song for Gotta Hate :)

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Chicharito14 September 22, 2010

Newcastle 4 - 3 chelsea. definitely one of the most dramatic league cup games of alltime.

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dela September 22, 2010

@Chicharito14

Agree. Whoever said the League Cup was a waste of time.

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Costas September 22, 2010

Good result and a good run out for the likes of Owen, Park, Smalling and especially Ando. Great to see him back.

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dela September 22, 2010

Full time, 4-3. So much for the Rentboys winning the quadruple.

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MG September 22, 2010

So much for the chavs winning the Quadruple then lol : )

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portugueseprincess September 22, 2010

Chelsea are out hahahaha

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MG September 22, 2010

Dela

Snap : ) for having near enough the same comments : )

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Chicharito14 September 22, 2010

''we can win the quadruple''.lmao

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willierednut September 22, 2010

Go on Northampton, knock the dippers out!!

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samuel - united WE stand September 22, 2010

@Jonny, we've had our fair share of shocks in cup competitions, yeah it was comfortable in the end but it wasn't all smooth sailing, the positives for this games is that some of our players are working there way back from injury.

The likes of obertan, anderson got important minutes on the pitch, we need anderson back especially, obertan would put some pressure on nani, bebe will too.

smalling played well, rio got minutes, so did owen e.t.c, all in all a positive night, we need to start keep clean sheets though.

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RedevilsAdvocate September 22, 2010

i think its unfair to label wen "finished" or "past it" when he cant get a decent run of games, even the best players in the world cant be expected to just come in after no football for weeks and set the world alight can hey? 'm happy Mickey got his 2 goals 2night, it may only be scunthorpe but it'll certainly help his confidence. Oh and good to see Bebe, I think he did ok, good result tonight

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mj September 22, 2010

Ive seen a lot worse debuts... For a homelss man Bebe didnt look out of place out there. I understand it was against scunthorpe in the CC, but still he exceeded my admittedly low expectations.

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Dave Mack September 22, 2010

City down 2-1 with 5 mins left! If the bitters go out with the rent boys it would really make my night!!

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samuel - united WE stand September 22, 2010

@Chicharito14, i had a feeling that drogba comment would backfire on him, talk about over confidence really, hopefully this is a small sign of chelsea starting to crumble.

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willierednut September 22, 2010

Don't kid yourself, Chelsea will still be our biggest threat for the league this season.

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dela September 22, 2010

@MG
Haha.. You know what they say about great minds and how they think alike and all that.

Scousers are into extra time against Northampton Town, who incidentally are in the relegation zone of League Two. I love the League Cup!

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Dave Mack September 22, 2010

I agree. Drogba talking about a quad in September says it all about the player and the Rent boys. I loved it cause it confirms how much they are getting carried away by the easy start to the season.

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RedevilsAdvocate September 22, 2010

*Owen

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samuel - united WE stand September 22, 2010

United is the only club who develops the best wingers, ronaldo, beckham, kanchelskis, ryan giggs nani, bebe, obertan, valencia we really epitomise the art of wing play.