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"Live Blog: United vs Sunderland"

May 3, 2014

Justin DeCouto

CONFIRMED LINE-UP: United vs Sunderland

COMPETITION: Win a Robin van Persie shirt

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Tommy May 5, 2014

@Samuel

LVG will check Zaha out on pre season but id still be surprised if he had a future especially if his attituide is suispect, LVG wont take no nonsence but we shall see

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Marko Maric May 5, 2014

N@NBI agree on United will need 2-3 years to rebuilt a team and about Glazers as owners.

"The standard of the top 4 this season is pretty shit, weaker than last year I would say, no team has really impressed, City have got a bit of a head od steam now with Toure back but they could not buy an away win start of season and have dropped points all over."

After so many defeats United had, we cpuld be at top 4. So no matter how top 4 has more pionts than ever, they didn t impressed.

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NBI Red 21 May 5, 2014

Where do these stories on Zaha;'s so called attitude come from? Is it because he is a young black guy from a rough background? His manager at Palace loved him, Ole has had no problem with him and if he had an issue with Moyes so did half the bloody team! Why spread shit about this guy? Where is your evidence he had attitude issues at Cardiff, Ole says he is a great young player who will be successful anywhere he goes and who just wants to play and stays late to practice? I mean seriously WTF!

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Marko Maric May 5, 2014

And about Zaha...this guy loat his selfconfidence, so we need a manager who can help him to develop. I think that Arsenal has much better reputation and results with young players. I think we lost good reputation. Zaha didn t take Arsenal s offer and it look like he was wrong.

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Marko Maric May 5, 2014

@NBI AMEN. This storys come from "true" fans, who are very positive abput club, and talk about our negativity, but only they have right to be negative. If player dont deliver, than he has bad attitude, coz it is impossible that manager is wrong.

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m09538061 May 5, 2014

David Moyes is gone. Liverpool bottled the league.Somewhere, there is a Manchester United fan with a magic lamp and one wish left.

After tonights game, you could see it written all over Steven Gerrards face...
Glen Johnson you cunt!

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Tommy May 5, 2014

@NBI

His manager at Palce Hallaway had a pop at him saying he wont have a future at United if his attitude does not improve and reports of him getting benched for an under 21s game for arriving 40 mins late, plus he got pissed the day before the Arsenal home game when he should of been their even if he was not playing. Nothing to do with the colour of his skin or his background so dont try and make this a race issue

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Marko Maric May 5, 2014

@Warroed
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes, no question about that. That s not working in PL, ask on Emirates

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Marko Maric May 6, 2014

@m..... hahhahahahaaa

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m09538061 May 6, 2014

Luis Suarez broke down after tonight's match as he realised the clause allowing him to leave for Madrid if Liverpool won the league was about as much use as locking wheelnuts are in Liverpool... YNWA (you'll never win again!)

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Marko Maric May 6, 2014

I think we should buy Goetze, he would be perfect for our team. But we have to sell someone - Kags.

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m09538061 May 6, 2014

Lead: noun - A soft grey metallic element that is very heavy.
So heavy that a whole Scouse football team can't seem to hold it

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NBI Red 21 May 6, 2014

@ Tommy give a break, Which young lad does not go out? Do you not remember Evans, Smalling, Rooney and a whole load of other United players doing what he did? And he was not even in the team for that game. Let's give this bullshit on Zaha a rest. Every young player with money has a bit of wild time his just gets blown out of proportaion for some reason. As for Pullis and Crystal Palace, Zaha is the reason they are in the EPL and Pullis said that after he signed for United and was loaned back so he kept his focus, which he did and he dragged them through to the EPL. Pulis was desperate to have Zaha loaned back in the EPL.

My point is lets stop this shit about saying Zaha has an attitude issue, he is no different to any young playter, he has been no trouble to Ole and Crystal Palace were begging for him back so he can't have that much of an attitude problem. Why highlight him for no reason.

Since you are selecting and quoting one comment from Pulis on Zaha when he thoughht his heard was turned by United, how is this later comment from Pulis

""Obviously he was a tremendous player at this football club and United spent a lot of money on him. I'm sure Wilfried and David and Manchester United will decide what they want to do.

"We'd be interested, whether we could do it, but we'd be interested if the player was available."

Doesn't sound o me like Pulis had issue with Zaha a player he was desperate to try to get back.

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John May 6, 2014

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_M%C3%BCller

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Tommy May 6, 2014

@NBI

Night before a big game, its not very smart to go out and gets pissed whether you were playing on not, Its well documented by people in the press hes had a bad attitude, Pulis wasnt even at Palace when Zaha was their. Id be very surprised if he had much future at United, He cant get games for an awful; Caqrdiff side, that speaks volumes. Simple as

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NBI Red 21 May 6, 2014

And Tommy to quote Holloway, why dont you stop being so selective to fit with your image that Zaha has an attitude issue, here is Holloway:

"Crystal Palace boss Ian Holloway has revealed he made a deadline day attempt to re-sign Manchester United's Wilfried Zaha on loan. But I think his career at Man United will be a success because of the boy that he is. David will select him at the right time, which is completely right. All I can talk about is how I felt when certain things were out there -- that he didn't care, he wasn't putting it in and his heart wasn't with us when we were having a dodgy spell.

"It just wasn't true. He couldn't help us more if he tried -- he was trying too hard. Nothing pleased me more in the final that he won a penalty and we scored. Against Brighton away he got two -- fantastic. What more would that boy need to do for Crystal Palace if he isn't a legend already?"

Despite his desire to have Zaha back in the Palace ranks, Holloway believes Manchester United is the perfect place for the Englishman to take his career to the next level."

So lets stop talking shit about Zaha and give the guy a break.

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NBI Red 21 May 6, 2014

In that case @ Tommy, since Powell, Januzaj, Lingard, Kagawa can't get games at a midtable United they must really be shit, I mean if these guys can't get ahead of Young Cleverly and Fellani they must really be fuck ups. Or maybe they have shit attitude. That must be it. Simple as right?

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m09538061 May 6, 2014

Steven Gerrard was wearing a tag on his leg in the game against Crystal Palace tonight.
That's a badge of honour in Liverpool.

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NBI Red 21 May 6, 2014

Also @ Tommy if I remember, weren't you one of the people who was raving over Zaha in preseason where he was on par with Januzaj in terms of performances? Do you remember when Zaha Lingard and Januzaj were the only bright sparks in preseason? You think Januzaj would have splayed for Moyes if he hadn't had a contract issue? Moyes made it clear he did not rate Zaha or Kagawa early days. When all that shit came out that Zaha was not playing due to Moyes daughter the manager never stood up for him and said what;s in the press about Wilf is complete and utter garbage, the poor guy eventually had to tweet it himself. Let us just chill out on the boy. I trust Ole's opinion on Zaha far more that I trust yours and Holloway and Pulis also rated him and wanted him to play for them. Give him a chance.

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WeAreUnitedd May 6, 2014

http://thepeoplesperson.com/2014/05/05/louis-van-gaal-makes-his-first-transfer-move-for-manchester-united/

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WeAreUnitedd May 6, 2014

it this is true, then the likes of young will fast move out of the way

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Sushi May 6, 2014

I have to tell you all, it was monday, i was fucking dead tired at work and was generally feeling like shit. But man did my day ever take a turn for the amazing! After it was 3-0 i thought to myself what if it ends 3-3 and sure enough fucking beauty! this was massive

I heard after the game all the same liverpool fans who were talking up the title planning parades etc saying oh no we didn't get carried away blah blah etc hahah yes you did u fucking divs, completely delusional. I could careless should City win, as long as liverpool don't. great result and the best part is it will utterly destroy Stevei G and ensure that his negativity spreads into the England camp as well lol another doomed campaign for England.

Suarez was only crying because he now needs someone to come in for 60M to get him out of his contract.

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denislawking May 6, 2014

Every cloud has a silver lining. First Chelsea, now 3-0 up to 3-3 Have you ever seen Gerrard win the league? Beautiful.

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WeAreUnitedd May 6, 2014

Firstly Zaha had issues with moyes, which is obvious, Moyes screwed him over , but then again Zaah and Januzaj both starting a game was never an optio UNTIL our wingers played like shit, that was the moment to introduce Zaha the way Januzaj was

BUT Zaha had a attitude which led him to cardiff and playing not so good BUUUUUUUUT

I do agree about Zaha he has all the talent and to say he's finished is laughable since he has not even started
anyway, good observations

@marko

unfortunately it is true, Arsenal are producing more youth than us and even playing them and trusting in them

The downfall of this is that MR. Wenger is a bit of stupid on letting go Fab RVP Nasri Clichy Adebayor, now imagine those with Wilshere Özil Walcott etc Also letting go Bergkamp Pires Vieira and not keeping them close was stupid

IF Wenger would have been smart, Arsenal would have dominated by now, but they have a better system, but thank to Wenger, they have no confidence

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DeGeaWeTrust May 6, 2014

My mates torched me for2 weeks ago, about livepool were going to win the league. Now they are heart broke, I got a weird theory, since Moyes was sacked, liverpool have collapsed

WeAreUnitedd - great, van gaal wants to keep a united player, much like valencia and young, who cannot beat a man, and much like the other 2, have not had a decent game in 3 years. YAHOO lets keep a so called talented player, who is so out of form, his only memorable moment in 3 years? is getting sent off against Real Madrid. Great idea from van gaal, I do not know why any manager is not trying to promote janazaj, than keeping guys like nani valencia and young around, who have been poor for far too long.

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Tommy May 6, 2014

@NBI

If Cardiff had a player approaching 22 years old and he barely featured, would you be delighted to see United sign him? Of course you wouldnt, If he was that great he would be a regular. Powell and januzai are young lads, if they were at Cardiff tho they would play all the time. Kagawa gets a fair number of starts hes dissapointed for the most part though

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Tommy May 6, 2014

@NBI

I want to point out I have nothing against the lad, and Ole can try his best to boast the lads confidence but his actions speak louder than his words, he does not trust Zaha so does not play him, I wish it would have worked out for him but for whatever reason it looks like it wont, dont be surprised if hes at a Newcastle or Villa come the end of the window

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Tommy May 6, 2014

@WeAreUnitedd

"IF Wenger would have been smart, Arsenal would have dominated by now, but they have a better system, but thank to Wenger, they have no confidence" Its Wenger that implemented the system, How can you blame him for the team having confidence buit not praise him for the systems hes got of poaching young players. Wenger is one of the most knowledgeable men in football when it comes to young players and without him they wouldnt have all these young players

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Tommy May 6, 2014

http://lockerdome.com/6169461380096065/6591388095628820

hahahaha, comedy gold

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OpikBidin May 6, 2014

The rebuilding need to take it step by step, I think we just need 2 signing, a DM and a LB for now, we just need to do a smart planning:

OUT

GK : Linde
CB : Rio, Vidic
LB : Evra
CM : Carr, Fletch, Ando
Wing : Young, Giggs
Striker : Roo, RVP, Chicha, Macheda

Squad 2014/2015
GK : DDG, Sam, AMos
RB : Raf, Val, Varela
CB : Evans, Jones, Small, M.Keane, Thorpe
LB : Buttner, Blackett, --Signing--
CM-AM : Clev,Felli, Kag, Mata, Powell,(Jones, Thorpe, Val) and U-21 (Pearson, Rothwell, Perreira, etc)
Wing : Nani, Zaha, Janu, Lingard,U21 (Janko, etc)
FW : Welb, Bebe, W. Keane, Angelo, Wilson

Starting XI: 433
DDG
Raf-Small-Evans-SIgning
Clev-Signing-Kag
Nani-Welb-Bebe

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DeGeaWeTrust May 6, 2014

Tommy - I can watch and listen to that all day and night

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dannysoya LOVES USAIN BOLT May 6, 2014

Let me just repeat again what a great day today was. Fell so refreshed for some reason even though we've been horrendous this season. Liverpool always find a way to make me feel better.

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Marko Maric May 6, 2014

@Weareunitedd finally someone agree with me on Arsenal youth...
I think that LVG wont maybe fired Valencia and Young coz it not easy to buy another class wingers, and young once are not developed yet, that he can account on them for all season. He has limited money, since our dear Moyes spent 27 millions on nothing. World class players will be expensive. The only thing is finally good, is that we have a manager now and a lot players around the europe that want to play for him.

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Marko Maric May 6, 2014

Goal.com
Davids: Juventus should sign Balotelli

Hahhahaha...what kind of drugs this guy useing? Can you imagine Balotelli under LVG hahhaha

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Paschal Agwunobi May 6, 2014

looks like Nani impressed Van gaal a lot back in 2011 against bayern munich. He has already made his 1st move by blocking Nani's sale to Juventus. Its said he has big plans for the skillfull portugese maestro.this is what Nani needs,a coach who can trust and guide him,and he will blossom..he's a game changer, and a matchwinner if fit and given run of games,even SAF knew this. Am already loving LVG. Its also rumored that he has offered Ryan Giggs a senior coaching role in his backroom, I just hope Giggs doesn't influence him to play his old, past-it colleagues. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfer-news-nani-3499432

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Paschal Agwunobi May 6, 2014

http://www.footballfancast.com/premiership/manchester-united/incoming-man-united-chief-to-block-wingers-exit

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m09538061 May 6, 2014

Its a shame Carlsberg isnt on the Liverpool shirt anymore..
If they did Title fuck ups that would probably be the best in the world.

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trevor knightsmith May 6, 2014

m09538061.

I am still pissing myself !

Liverpool fans were celebrating another major trophy last night

The Champions League in 2005

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Gary Mitrovic May 6, 2014

Palace must have called on the spirit of Istanbul. I'm just forever going to associate Gerrard with that speech at the end of the City game - "This does not fucking slip now! This does not fucking slip now!" Ha! What a wanker!

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Jackie Spain May 6, 2014

"unfortunately it is true, Arsenal are producing more youth than us and even playing them and trusting in them" - someone else perpetuating that Arsenal myth. Take their last game against WBA, not one home grown player in the starting team. At least United had Fletcher (and Sunderland had O'Shea and Brown).

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Jackie Spain May 6, 2014

@OpikBidin: Why do you keep banging on about Bebe? He will never play for United again. He's Championship level at best.

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Gary Mitrovic May 6, 2014

Opik, you're barking mad you do know that? You're willing to sell Van Persie, Rooney and Hernandez in the summer and then suggest we only need to make two signings on top of that to the whole squad.

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trevor knightsmith May 6, 2014

Gary,

And he wants to play Fellaini and Cleverly, and wants Moyes back !

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Gary Mitrovic May 6, 2014

Trevor, I first thought Opik was on a wind up mission, but it's become clear he's deadly serious. Longing for the return of Moyes.....euurgghh.....just gives me the shivers thinking about it.

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trevor knightsmith May 6, 2014

Gary,

I am really beginning to believe the Moyes was a "plant" to undermine United . I wouldn't even wish him on the dippers, and how anyone could ever want him back at United is beyond me, they certainly don't want him back at Everton .

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Gary Mitrovic May 6, 2014

Trevor, I'm starting to think Opik is in league with Moyes and Round or even one of them in disguise. It would explain a lot.

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WeAreUnitedd May 6, 2014

@Tommy

firstly,, you don't get it do you, just because Wenger has put a great youth-system or scout system it does not mean he is full of confidence or gives the team full confidence

Otherwise they would not bottle it for 10 year in a row, just watch out, probaböy Hull will win the FA-cup. I did not say he is not knowledgeable man, I said, he has a great system, btu the confidence is low, otherwise how do yo uexplain the 10 year drought. Ithink you misunderstood it, I did not mean the confidence of the youth but the whole team. anyway.

@Jackie Spain it is true, that we have a lot of own yout, but to be honest I think mr. Wenger has realised that it can't and won't work only with youth, and he will make a change on this, but thel ikes of Ramsey Walcott WIlshere Gibbs OX who were once younger are still first team players, when they are all fit. I know some of them were brought but then again we also have produced youth who were brought from other teams.

@Marko

I know man about the youth. ALSO I think he will sell Young at leats and give Januzaj the minuted Young plays or someone else, Valencia will probably stay and by the looks of it, so does Nani, BUT Young will be a goner.

@DGWT

mate, I juts put a link that Van Gaal is doing his best to keep Nani, which tells us that that kind of managaer respects players like Nani, we'll see what happens, IF Nani keeps getting injured and not played, it's betetr him to leave or if he plays and don't perform of course we don't need him, the same goes for Valencia who has been dire. As for Young, no matter what he should be gone.

@Gary

Opikin has some good points, but he makes the uncredible when he mentiones MOyes and his comeback and wants us to play Everton style (although I know what he means) and wants Fellaini as a second striker. anyway.

shivers indeed

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Tommy May 6, 2014

@WeAreUnitedd

You could also say that if it was not for the oil clubs Arsenal would be the ones competiting with United for the title, Wengers the one kepping Arsenal in the championshup side, the moment he leaves is the moment Arsenal drop down the table

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Mark Reid May 6, 2014

Steve Gerrard Gerrard he fell on his fucking arse.he passed in to Dembav Ba Steve Gerrard Gerrard.

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MrC May 6, 2014

Let's make it 700 comments shall we?

Still trying to get over last nights entertainment at Selhurst Park:-) Shame I turned off when the dippers went 3-0 up...