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PICTURE: Torres Gets Liverpool Off The Mark

August 25, 2010

Thanks to The Chelsea Blog.

Scott Patterson

Scott is the editor of RoM and has a season ticket at Old Trafford. He started The Republik of Mancunia in March 2006. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter or @R_o_M7 on Instagram.

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40 Comments

Dazzer August 25, 2010

hahaha

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Butlersrevenge August 25, 2010

He's nicked my car too! Been in liverpool too long!

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Gotta hate tiny tears August 25, 2010

1 draw 1 point
torres speeding fine 3 points
joe cole caught speeding 3 points
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. . ... .. . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 points

Dippers, Top of the league
dippers dippers top of the league

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Dr.Hannibal August 25, 2010

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Simply the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!! scott!!!
Poor lady boy lost in transalation!!!
Its like getting yellow card from subs bench!! LOL

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james21 August 25, 2010

Ha Ha Brilliant.

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Schmucks August 25, 2010

lol

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FailsworthDevil (Manchester UK) August 25, 2010

"That will be £60 within 7 days, or £120 in 14 days, you scouse tranny twat... comprende??" hahahaha

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willierednut August 25, 2010

Just to piss off all the gooners, that have been on ROM today, come on ye Spurs!! On topic, nice one Chelsea blog, but you're still a shower of shite lol.

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Gerry Gooner August 25, 2010

What has this got to do with Paul Scholes' 'dark side' lol

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Giggsys chest wig August 25, 2010

Torres wasn't actually getting done for anything or fined.
He had been trailed by a photographer all day, so rung the police, he then lead the photographer to the police.
The only one who got done was the photographer.

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willierednut August 25, 2010

Gerry Gooner - The spuds are coming for ya's lol.

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Gerry Gooner August 25, 2010

@willierednut

Just like Houliers 5 year plan- every year for the last 10 has been Spurs' year. I'm still waiting...

Can't wait to hear the media uproar over Engerlands Jermaine Defoes cheating handball tonight.....oh wait...whats that I hear......sweet f**k all.

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geneside August 25, 2010

chelsea fans are good with tidbits of the field.....
cause they think they are on a role right now they should be pointing every incident about their rivals.....
we could be next.......
beware fellas.......

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willierednut August 25, 2010

Gerry Gooner - You's are lucky, we've got to deal with City fans on here, now that's a deluded bunch lol.

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Eight08 August 25, 2010

Gerry Gooner – I'm starting to get a hunch that you like this blog, lol.

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Dr.Hannibal August 25, 2010

look who is supporting ingurland world cup bid Rooney(fans booing him in pathetic frendly) and rio ..
shame on cunt terry,rat cole and gerrad sorry gooners your out of question..sorry of topic scott

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Costas August 25, 2010

Finally Torres scored something. A ticket.

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Costas August 25, 2010

By the way, nice to see Tottenham finally make it in the Ch.League. If I could pick 3 teams from tomorrow's draw to make up our group, it would be Werder, Copenhagen and Twente. A straightforward group without a lot of fly miles.

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james21 August 25, 2010

Nice to see Spurs there in place of the Scouse shite.

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mj August 25, 2010

hahaha thats brilliant

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bruce thomas August 25, 2010

It's all irrelevant...

Look away now if you still believe that the Glazer family has plans for Manchester United that are anything but malevolent and would rather not know the truth!

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bruce thomas August 26, 2010

Look away now if you still believe that the Glazer family has plans for Manchester United that are anything but malevolent and would rather not know the truth! In an occasional series investment analyst Andy Green – andersred.blogspot.com – publishes further information on the family’s US property business, First Allied Corporation.

The report makes uncomfortable reading for United supporters still harbouring hopes of a late investment in the transfer market this summer, with the Glazers’ US strip-mall businesses failing an alarming rate as predicted by Green earlier this year.

In May Green identified 34 of 64 Glazer-owned shopping malls that were at serious risk of defaulting on their mortgages, with the entire portfolio highly indebted. In fact First Allied is failing so fast that several shopping malls have failed to pay their mortgages in the past quarter alone.

“Mortgages of five of these centres have become “delinquent”, that is to say the centres have started to miss mortgage payments,” explained Green yesterday.

“These five centres, originally valued at over $38m with over $7m of equity, have become delinquent in the last four months.”

Additionally, says, Green, “five new centres, which had previously been covering their mortgages, have now joined the “at risk” list after seeing falls in occupancy.”

Worse still, while occupancy rates remain low across the group some malls reported as fully let by the Glazer family have also fallen into delinquency because they have come out of interest-only periods on their mortgages.

Green estimates that many more of the family’s malls will fail even with full occupancy because the group is so highly leveraged.

“First Allied’s problems are not just a product of a weak US economy struggling to come out of recession, they are in large part due to aggressive financing structures put in place before the credit bubble burst,” explains Green.

“For 15 shopping centres, the terms of the mortgages on them make insolvency virtually inevitable.”

In fact the entire property business is now in such a poor state that it made just $9 million before taxes and other costs in the past year. The true group position is worse, with Green’s estimate deliberately ignoring the centres with negative cash flow. Each centre is non-recourse, meaning it can fail without impacting the group position.

Insignificant in a portfolio of 64 centres? Probably not, with the family’s NFL franchise Tampa Bay Buccaneers also heavily in debt, United is and will remain the family’s only cash-cow.

Indeed, given the lack of free cash-flow in its empire and the family’s extreme indebtedness, the Glazers have little choice but to remove hundreds of millions in dividends from the club’s coffers under the terms of the £504 million bond issued last January. This will pay down the so-called Payment-in-Kind (PIK debt), while Sir Alex Ferguson remains short of transfer funds and seeking “value” in the market.

There is, to paraphrase the Scot, no doubt that, although inexplicably some supporters still doubt this is the family’s intention.

The picture is of course similar to that unveiled by Green, the Guardian’s Daniel Taylor and BBC Panorama last May, with the Glazers’ property position deteriorating in the past quarter. It explains almost entirely the family’s motivation for issuing a bond that actually increased United’s interest payments, why Sir Alex Ferguson is suddenly seeking “value” and the reasoning behind both the Bucs and United’s “investment in youth” – read cheap – strategies.

While the Bucs came off disastrous 3-13 losing season on one of the lowest wage budgets in the NFL, United had ‘only’ the Carling Cup to show for a largely disappointing campaign in a mediocre quality Premier League after selling Cristiano Ronaldo last summer.

The response to relative failure?

Tampa Bay has invested in a range of younger free-agent players during the off-season, while the fans have walked away in droves. The franchise sold less than 40,000 season tickets and the club must now black-out TV coverage as games have not sold out for the first time in decades.

Meanwhile, following a remarkably similar strategy United has spent around £10 million net this summer on three youngsters this summer as the club also failed to sell all available season tickets for the first time in recent memory.

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Tony Starks August 26, 2010

off topic.. what do people think of Owen plaing for Liverpool again in a testimonial?

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McQueen August 26, 2010

Bruce thomas.... please piss off now and stop spamming that shit that we ALL know. Yeah, the glazers malls are failing, what the fuck do you want me to do about it?

And you'll find we've spent a lot more than £10 million on our new signings, they might be mainly unproven youngsters, but get your facts right if you're gunna be preaching doomsday.

Also, get a fucking GRIP 'cos we're still doing the business on the pitch and that's what matters.

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Costas August 26, 2010

@McQueen

Actually he is right. Our net spend this summer is around 8 to 10 million. That being said...

@Bruce Thomas

Ok, we know what the deal is. No need to post it in every thread. There are other United issues you can talk about.

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Costas August 26, 2010

@Tony Starks

Fine by me. He was invited and he thought he should honour a friend of his.

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Macheda is GOD August 26, 2010

Michael Owen is to pull on the colours of Liverpool for the first time since leaving the club six years ago after agreeing to brave a potential backlash from Manchester United's supporters by playing for his old team in Jamie Carragher's testimonial match. Owen, reviled by some Liverpool fans after crossing one of the game's oldest divides, is said to be uncertain of the reaction he will get from the Anfield crowd but does not have great expectations considering the abuse when he returned last season for the first time since joining their rivals at Old Trafford.

The former England striker has given his word to Carragher, however, that he will play in the match at Anfield on Saturday week, swapping the red of United for that of the team where he began his career. Sir Alex Ferguson, the United manager, has given him permission to play for 45 minutes and Owen will be in attack for a Liverpool XI taking on an Everton XI.

Carragher has also persuaded Jamie Redknapp, Danny Murphy, Jason McAteer and Emile Heskey to play, but he had told Owen he would understand if he thought it was too delicate for him politically bearing in mind the rivalry between Liverpool and United.

There is also the distinct possibility that United's fans will not be too impressed about one of their players being willing to wear a Liverpool shirt, especially with their first encounter of the season to follow only two weekends later.

Owen, though, regards Carragher as one of his closest friends in football and the organisers hope the goodwill felt towards the long-serving Liverpool defender will persuade the Anfield crowd to go easy on their former player and maybe even demonstrate some warmth and appreciation for a man who scored over 200 goals for the club in eight years and has been described by Steven Gerrard as "tTHE BEST STRIKER IN HISTORY OF LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB." Nonetheless, it is understood Owen will be given his own security on his way to and from the stadium.

Oh dear..

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Gotta hate tiny tears August 26, 2010

when has a united player ever played in a liverpool jersey

this could be a first

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/26/michael-owen-liverpool-carragher-testimonial

Liverpool fans have to respect what he did fo rthe clue and the guy must get a cheer (!)

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kanchelskis August 26, 2010

Right lads, who do we want in the CL group stages? I'd say the best we could hope for is:

Utd
Shakhtar Donetsk
FC Copenhagen
MSK Zilina

And the worse:

Utd
Real Madrid
Ajax
Partizan Belgrade

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trevor August 26, 2010

Torres must drive as fast as he can run!.. FAST!

When beckham moved to Real i took an interest in Spanish football, It was obvious this kid had it! Fergie tried to get him 2 seasons on the trott! The 3rd season Liverpool nabbed him!

Could you just imagine Torres and Rooney as a partnership?

Torres has had his injury problems, although im not too confident of Liverpools ability to Handle Players Injuries! Because they are so short of Top players a Torres or Gerrard 40% fit is better than their fringe players!

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Costas August 26, 2010

@Kanchelskis

Mine would be Werder, Copenhagen and Twente. Don't want any long trips.

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James546 August 26, 2010

I think the recurring Torres problem is down to Liverpool's squad and Benitez. Though well known for his squad rotation, he would frequently risk risk a half-fit Gerrard or Torres to get a win because of the general lack of quality thereby aggravating their injuries. Then they get the tag "injury prone". Anybody note that Torres' apps reduce every season (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Torres) and at Atletico, he played bout 35 games every season

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FROM SHANKS TO THE YANKS!! August 26, 2010

TO ALL THE REAL MANC AND LIVERPOOL FANS!!

Guys,
nice picture and all that...kinda funny but would have been even FUNNIER If the copper was disguised as VIDIC or RIO..;-)

Now to the serious stuff guys,
Both Liverpool and man u are heading for failures,
CAN SOMEONE PLS TELL ME WHY MAN U SUPPORTERS ARE LOUD AND GOING ON AS IF THEY WON THE TITLE??
truth is man u are far away from winning it and Liverpool have never been further away in my opinion...
CAUSE??
well....let's start with man u
This is such a shame that a massive club with unrivalled success in the last 20 years is now heavily in debt because there's yanks in charge who are cunning, man u have declined since the glaziers come in! Look at man u net spend since pocketing ronaldo sale...not a lot!!
But there biggest ASSET right now is SAF, he's still there and we all know won't let man u slip like "RAFAAAH" did last season!!

AS FOR LIVERPOOL,

I hate to say this but we have bigger problems ahead and coming to us thick and fast!!
We won't compete at top level for a few years...as for the YANKS THEY STILL HAVE MILLIONS TO MAKE FROM LFC!!
SAD SAD STORY

SO....stop wasting your time guys putting pictures of fernando torres in a Bentley or whatever the car is...INSTEAD SPREAD THE HATRED FOR THE YANKS THAT ARE DESTROYING TO LEGENDARY CLUBS....STOP THESE GUYS FROM SINKING YOU....EVERYTIME MEDIA RELAX ABOUT THESE OWNERS IT'S AS IF EVERYTHING IS OK....ITS NOT!!
SAVE YOUR CLUBS
SAVE LFC AND MAN U
BOTH CLUBS DESERVE BETTER!!

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United4eva August 26, 2010

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-striker-Michael-Owen-set-to-play-for-Liverpool-in-Jamie-Carragher-testimonial-but-should-he-pull-on-shirt-of-hated-rivals-again-article564293.html

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McQueen August 26, 2010

@ Costas - ok thanks i didn't see the 'net' there. My point still stands though, the 'glazers in financial difficulty' thing is hardly breaking news to your average United fan. No need for a long-winded essay on every thread!

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McQueen August 26, 2010

As for Owen, I have no problem with him putting on a Liverpool shirt for a testimonial. Don't see why anyone would really, there's no point pretending he has no love for the club where he spent his first 8 years in football. Hope the fans have a bit of respect and don't give him too much of a hard time.

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Costas August 26, 2010

I really don't see what the fuss with Owen is. I think the papers are trying to make more out of this, that what's truly the case. It's more of a Liverpool fan's problem than ours.

@McQueen

Yeah mate. That we agree on. I'd like to think that people coming here have an actual interest in interacting with the others, instead of passing their message along and leaving.

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McQueen August 26, 2010

@Costas - It may be the net spend this summer, but does that include Hernandez and Smalling? It really should if we're talking about transfers for this season.

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Costas August 26, 2010

@McQueen

Yes they are included. I normally use this wesite to see how our transfer deals shape up:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/de/manchester-united/transfers/verein_985.html

I am not sure if it's 100% accurate since a few of the fees are undisclosed (i.e. I think Smalling cost more than that), but it gives you an idea.

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