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VIDEO: Bébé's Equaliser Against Ajax Cape Town

July 21, 2012

Scott is the editor of RoM and has a season ticket at Old Trafford. He started The Republik of Mancunia in March 2006. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter or @R_o_M7 on Instagram.

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Utd4life July 21, 2012

Cedars. He had a very good game mate. Didn't look out of place, looks really comfortable on the ball, great vision and should have had a goal to his name.

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911_DEVIL July 21, 2012

The mummy - tomb of the dragon emperor
Its a great movie :P

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Fred July 21, 2012

911 - thanks. Last one I saw was The Mummy Returns. IF YA SMELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, WHAT THE ROCK, IS, COOKIN'.

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Utd4life July 21, 2012

Dannysoya. If Ando and Cleverley stay fit then I think we won't see Scholesy starting that many games. Like I said, if both of them stay fit then the Gaffer will bring on Scholesy to either steady the ship or see out a game.

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Giggs12Gerrard0 July 21, 2012

Samuel

It's bot bitter fuckers mate well taken goal but he was painful to watch. You are also right on Chico he has got to sort himself out. His first touch and runs offside are amateurish.

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

Utd4life

Yes he does pal, not to mention that he looks absolutely gorgeous too! Man crush over load

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911_DEVIL July 21, 2012

Pleasure fred
You're a good buddy

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Fred July 21, 2012

Cedars - here's a picture I made of Kagawa a while back. We'll see who has the biggest man crush... http://image.blingee.com/images19/content/output/000/000/000/7ba/775141850_859244.gif

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

Fred

Saw that at the time, great stuff..........Now lay off he's mine

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Zibbie July 21, 2012

Took me 12 tweets to get banned from Rooney's twitter account, do not offer to do things to him, just saying.

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

leeds fan travelling with his parrot reaches passport control.........

Officer ' Is this animal with you?'

Parrot ' Yes he is'

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Zibbie July 21, 2012

Tree me as well, I twit with Wazza, Elvis if he was alive and SAF but he has none. Thats my list.

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Zibbie July 21, 2012

Tree I tried to give U what i saw in Kagawa, he and Scholes were having fun. His touch control and vision wow we dude, always IFS and BUTS, Wazza plays the same mins this year as last 43 goals 8 assists, Kagawa 22 assists wow, he will bring out better play in his mates. Fun to play with and win shit!

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United Till I Die July 21, 2012

@Costas and Fred - imho theres a flaw in your comparisons fellas. Those players you mentioned all played for professional Clubs since they were children so they've never had to play catch up with their peers. Obertan, Diouf, Gibson et al were all playing at the top of their game and it simply wasn't good enough - but that isn't the case with Bebe is it? Ferguson clearly stated Bebe ISN'T at the top of his game but we've have signed him to get him there, and herein lies the point!

Bebe is already a better player than the ones you've mentioned, as he's already doing the impossible by being in a squad of players trained by professional clubs for most of their lives. So comparing him to Obertan isn't accurate, as if Obertan walked into professional football straight off the street he wouldn't have been good enough to join United. Bebe DID walk in off the street and he WAS good enough to join United and play in our reserves.

United have made it clear he's a long term development, and now he's scored on pre-season im sure Fergie will have more to say about our plans for him. But judging him prematurely is a bit like eating raw meat before its cooked and then complaining about food poisoning. Also im not belabouring the point either fellas, it is a debate about todays only goal scorer after all. Costas was right in saying the stick he got from ABU's has got certain supporters backs up, but its a bit more more than that tbh.

@Denton
Thats a good point about Drogba. Bebe is only 22 and thats the age Ian Wright went professional.

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

Zibbie

You mad nutter, just seriously pissed my self..... ha ha ha ha ha

What on earth did you offer to do to him?

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United Till I Die July 21, 2012

Also - im in agreement that he was rusty as hell before he scored, I said that earlier but it might have been lost in all the schadenfraude Lol.

Hopefully nobody is baffled as to why so much is being typed about Bebe - just in case your wondering the lad scored our only fucking goal of the match haha. Surely that warrants discussing him, or should we sweep him under the carpet yet bang on about how shit he is.

This is the nature of debate fellas. It goes both ways.

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Clint-Iamyourpapii July 21, 2012

Ole Who?

We got Bebe....Heroine of Manchester !

(Just say Batsman;TDKR.....One Word: Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

:lol:

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Zibbie July 21, 2012

OK it is a US drink
Kool Aid I will find the song still looking for but here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIIj2Ut6Pvo&feature=related

Kool Aid is here thirst is on the run, a Kagawa song in there.

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

That post by Zibbie at 19:06 is probably one of the most I have laughed at on here..........Not sure why but I am seriously crying with laughter

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Mr. Red July 21, 2012

Hello to everyone in here..been following this blog for sometime now and just had to join sometime or the other.
Thoughts on today game :1) Kagawa is class and cannot wait to see him play along the likes of rooney valencia and co. Definitely the spark we've been screaming for so many years now.

2) Very impressed with Blackett, Amos and most importantly Jesse Lingard..Could be jumping it but I reckon he's good enough to consistently play in the first team. Forget money grabbing whores such as Sorryson and PIGba.

3) Midfield obviously needs a lot of tweaking. Scholes isn't going to play every game this season. Anderson for me is hot and cold. He had an average game imo. Most imp thing for him is to stay fit and lose his weight.

4) Give Bebe some time.. Lots of posters here too harsh on him. Its not easy to make that step up playing for United instantly. One minute he's homeless and next he's at United. Don't want to draw up any " With a lot of time He could become Drogbaesque" comparisons, but hopefully he'll come into his own.

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Fred July 21, 2012

Taking a homeless guy off the streets and putting him in the United team - reminds me of the classic musical "My Fair Lady", though I suppose this would be "My Fair Bébé" with Sir Alex as 'Enry 'Iggins.

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

Oh do PISS OFF............70 minutes in and Molde are 2 - 1 down at home

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Mikekelly12 July 21, 2012

Samuel
Why would I disagree? Did you not read my post? It was based entirely on people being entitled to an opinion whether that be positive or negative? Not sure what you're getting at and I'm pretty sure my posts have been sensible. Disagree?
Cedars - evening bell end!

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Zibbie July 21, 2012

Tree that was my goal!!! It had to do with peanut butter and tong!

Peanut Butter Jelly Time.

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Zibbie July 21, 2012

FRED!!! LOL!!!!!!!! off to eat at my moms!!!!!

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

Mike

Evening shit for brains! Still pissing my self at Zibbie getting on twitter then getting banned for harassing Rooney!! ha ha ha

On the Bebe debate, with you 100% mate

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Clint-Iamyourpapii July 21, 2012

- An extract in a newspaper I found after travelling to the future in my newly purchased DeLorean .

Bebe has exhausted all superlatives during his two years with United, while he matured from an inexperienced, young winger in 2010 into officially the Shittest footballer on the planet in 2012.

On the day he departed for Rangers Newco in a deal potentially worth £7.75 - making him the World's most cheapest player - his former manager Sir Alex Ferguson said, "Bebe has been a marvellous player for Manchester United. His contribution has been a major factor in the club’s success in that time and his talent, his ability to entertain and his infectious personality have enthralled fans the world over, we are delighted we can now say we have seen the back of him ."

On 31st August, the deal collapsed and Sir Alex Ferguson stepped down Manager of Manchester United, bringing to an his 25 year reign.

8)

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Fred July 21, 2012

Bon appetit, Zib!

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Fred July 21, 2012

Papii - Great Scott!

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

Come ON Molde..............10 minutes to go, do it Ole style

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Costas July 21, 2012

@United Till I Die (or Paul Parker? :P )

Nah we didn't exactly compare him those lads in terms of ability mate. It was mentioned that since Fergie bought Bebe, he knows something we don't. And that may be true. But when you look at Obertan, Bellion, Liam Miller or Djemba Djemba, it's obious that Fergie doesn't always get it right. So there's no guarantee that Bebe will become United quality down the road.

I don't really know if Bebe will ever make it at United and I don't want to make any absolute prediction. He's still a raw talent (a term that's been used a lot about him) and lord knows how far that will take him. I respect where he came from. I'd resent the idea that any UNited fan looks down on him for that reason. It's just that judging by what we've seen so far (and one could argue whether it's premature or not) it's natural to have doubts about him.

And to be clear. I am not speaking about today. I didn't see the game but even if I did, I wouldn't compliment him on the goal or critisize him if he played poorly. These games are practice matches and nothing more. I am glad for him personally and I hope he continues working. Whether it will be enough time will tell. But it won't stop me, MG or Fred from making the odd crack at the whole situation. :D

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Mikekelly12 July 21, 2012

Cedars
Zibbie is certainly a unique character. I can only imagine what he said!!

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United Till I Die July 21, 2012

@Samuel
Alright mate? Agreed about fairytales and not writing this fella off.

Ian Wright did not spend his youth playing for a professional club like most players but his goal record after 7 years at Arsenal is still better than 'world class' Wayne Rooney's record at OT, and thats despite 8 years at our Club and a decade of youth development with Everton. Facts like that make Wright special in my book and he remains the epitome of an underdog Striker. He was in jail when he should have been playing for reserves, but he still has a much better goal record than the much wanked over RVP et al. Wright played the catch up game and he ended up lapping his peers. The man is a Legend imo.

SO if I compared young Bebe to anybody right now it would be a young Ian Wright before he signed for Palace. People forget that Wrighty was completely written off back then, he wasn't a world class striker when he joined Palace, so if HE could dominate the top tier of England after years of Hackney Marshes football nobody is in a tenable position to write off Bebe imo. End of.

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

Well fuck it Molde lost at home............Still 4 points behind having played a game more

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United Till I Die July 21, 2012

@Costas - of course mate nobody is saying don't crack a joke about Bebe. Likewise nobody is saying don't write a post backing Bebe on RoM. This is one of those agree to disagree moments that often occur in those strange things called DEBATES lol. No worries pal!

Although, where you spoke about the likely hood of raw talent alone carrying him through I just left a post to Samuel about the best player to do that imo. People forget Ian Wright was pretty much in the same position as Bebe when he got is first professional contract with Palace. Look at him now he's EPL Legend, thanks to raw talent and determination to make it. Stranger things have happened Pal!

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lordrt July 21, 2012

Why buy RvP or any other attacker when we have Bebe ;)

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

Anyone seen the Spoons and Wayne? Latest news flash, the Americans have just launched three nuclear missiles into space, suspected to be aimed at a mysterious space ship known to be for the dreg....

Anyone else heard anything?

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Singh7 July 21, 2012

Zibbie absolutely smashed it with the Twitter comment about Rooney ..Hahahahaha!!!

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

Miami_Red

Seeing that you read this blog and always lurking around........I want to thank you for your 'kind' words on the other thread......You'll probably be pissed off that I am back..........

Enough with all this clique bollocks, you have something to say just say it for God's sake.... Fucking amazes me when people only come on here to say they have been reading the blog for years yet they never post and when they do its fucking pathetic

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Tonka Norris July 21, 2012

Zibbie - Galena was great. We stayed at Eagle Ridge in the suite. Magic. No golf but rented a pontoon on the lake. Next time I'm fishing! Summer's the time for weekends away - well unless ESPN shows the game then there's a chance to see it in a hotel.

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daemondada July 21, 2012

My dear brethren.I luv u all so much it hurts.This is not the time for eating whatever pies.We ALL want to see our kids do great.I believe,given time,they shall! Please,forget about barca and focus on ourselves.We have EVERYTHING we need as is.Yet,if SAF decides we still need to strengthen,then by all means!As it stands,we have just the right mix of rookies,sophomores and pros.It's all good!

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daemondada July 21, 2012

My dear brethren.I luv u all so much it hurts.This is not the time for eating whatever pies.We ALL want to see our kids do great.I believe,given time,they shall! Please,forget about barca and focus on ourselves.We have EVERYTHING we need as is.Yet,if SAF decides we still need to strengthen,then by all means!As it stands,we have just the right mix of rookies,sophomores and pros.It's all good!

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daemondada July 21, 2012

My dear brethren.I luv u all so much it hurts.This is not the time for eating whatever pies.We ALL want to see our kids do great.I believe,given time,they shall! Please,forget about barca and focus on ourselves.We have EVERYTHING we need as is.Yet,if SAF decides we still need to strengthen,then by all means!As it stands,we have just the right mix of rookies,sophomores and pros.It's all good!

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Fred July 21, 2012

My dear brethren.I luv u all so much it hurts.This is not the time for eating whatever pies.We ALL want to see our kids do great.I believe,given time,they shall! Please,forget about barca and focus on ourselves.We have EVERYTHING we need as is.Yet,if SAF decides we still need to strengthen,then by all means!As it stands,we have just the right mix of rookies,sophomores and pros.It’s all good!

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United Till I Die July 21, 2012

What he said^

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

Fred

Have you told you lately that you are funny as fuck?

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CedarsDevil July 21, 2012

Have I !! Fucks sake

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Fred July 21, 2012

Cedars - hahaha, yes, I tell myself that all the time. Thanks!

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United Till I Die July 21, 2012

The best thing im taking away from todays game was MOTM Kagawa. He is exactly what we've missed in the central final third. He can receive the ball when theres no space, he can keep possession, and he can pass. Cannot wait for Cleverley and Anderson to mix it up with Shinji in midfield, those three could keep possession for years imo.

I also thought Hernandez looked bright to be honest. He was never gonna be in form thats what pre-season is for, but at least he wasn't caught offside a million times. I don't think his first season was a fluke, I think he burned out after all those games for Club and Country, and with Welbeck stepping up its been difficult to get the games he needs. Fair enough last season wasn't his best but he still scored 12. Who said he was the finished article he's just turned 24? This is an important season for him, and he's got the class and mental strength to deliver imo.

As for Tony Valencia, he seems to get better each season. Cannot believe how much stick he got when we signed him lol. Even on here he was called shit, out of his league etc. TBH he's been far more consistent than Nani during the same time. Fair enough he had more more first team experience at Wigan and he's older, but nevertheless he's been our most reliable RW. His first season partnership with Rooney was pure class, and now he's carrying the number 7 on his broad shoulders I can only expect another step up in his performance.

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Fibes July 21, 2012

I'm a definite Bebe fan. I totally see the potential in him for greatness. It's the directness in everything he does, he doesn't embellish his game with any bullshit trickery or technique. When he finds himself in the right positions it's like he does it from instinct, not as something he's been taught. When he hits those low crosses from wide and deep (and it reminds me a lot of the pingers Kanchelskis used to whack from the byline back in the day), all it will take is Little Pea or Welbs or Wazza to start to read them and it'll be undefendable. A few will go astray, but they'll all be dangerous, particularly on the counter when defenders are liable to be facing their own goal.

He's an interesting type of player to have on board and gives us that unpredictability which at times last season we just didn't have enough of. It may be some years before he becomes the finished article but I still think he can make a positive contribution to the squad in the meantime.