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VIDEO: Was It A Red Card?

February 10, 2010

Scott is the editor of RoM and has a season ticket at Old Trafford. He started The Republik of Mancunia in March 2006. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter or @R_o_M7 on Instagram.

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Costas February 11, 2010

Oh and I hope Ando's punishment is over. Can't go on playing Saturday-Wednesday with just 3 CMs.

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Jay February 11, 2010

Petrov absolutely blew the incident up.He was screaming like he broke his leg or something.
But i'd give a yellow card,looking at the background of the Nani,he's definitely not malicious!the only thing i'm irritated is that Nani's gonna miss 3 games when he's playing well now.hope he starts against milan though.

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aig alex is god February 11, 2010

@Costas

Hope so mate. Did you hear that story about rio and vidic going to some clinic to try and save that career?. wondering whether Vidic's prolonged absence means that could be true and he is having some problem that is recurring and preventing him from playing more than 2-3 games. The club possibly want to get to the bottom of it and hence arent risking him. Just like we did for rio with his back problem.

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Costas February 11, 2010

@AIG

I did hear that story. And it's probably true for Rio. I am not sure about Vidic though. If he had gone to that clinic, wouldn't Fergie have said something? For the last month, all Fergie says is that he will be back for the next game.

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RFD February 11, 2010

yes, pretty stupid from Nani... we could have won with him.

3 games ban then, to think he was in form.

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Long John O'Shea February 11, 2010

If you go in two footed and off the ground in front of the ref no matter what you will get a red, SAF even said it himself.. I hope its just a part of this learning curve that Nani is on... Hopefully he will learn from this and it will make him a better player from it.....

off topic: Fabregas's foot was on the line when he handled the ball which is a peno.... nothing better than seeing the dirty thieving scum getting robbed in the 94th minute.... I laughed my hole off for hours at that rewinding it on sky again and again.... anyone have a pictue at the look on st stevie of me's face when the ref waved play on???

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Costas February 11, 2010

@Long John O'Shea

It's a tough one, because I thought his hand was in front of the line. Anyway, I was glad they were robbed. Especially when I saw Stevie Me diving and trying to win a free kick just seconds earlier!

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aig alex is god February 11, 2010

@Costas

Exactly.Also when asked before the Arsenal game about wheteher he would play or not SAF said, 'if he wasnt fit, would i put him on the bench against City?'. it puzzles me because thats 2 weeks ago and yet nothing has been said or he hasnt even been on the bench after that.

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Costas February 11, 2010

@AIG

Sorry, a correction on my part. Before the Arsenal game, Fergie did say that Vidic felt his calf again. But before the Portsmouth game he said that Vidic had been training regulary. It would have helped if they asked him about it after the Portmouth and Villa games.

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Long John O'Shea February 11, 2010

Costas, Your right that his hand was in front of the line, where his foot was on the line but if your to play to the laws of the game once a part of the player is in the box a peno should be given.... but seeing them robbed was the business.....

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aig alex is god February 11, 2010

@Long John O'Shea

hi mate. Also stevie me's classic dive earned that freekick. it wasnt a freekick and he went down far too easily to earn it. What better can you expect from Gerrard though.

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Costas February 11, 2010

@Long John O'Shea

Thanks for the info. I didn't know what the exact rule was. Peno it is then. Poor Rafa. Not.

It was also funny seeing Gerrard and Fabregas trying to outcheat each other. :D

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Dani February 11, 2010

Could be red, but really in my opinion NO.
He wasn't two footed, but he was with more than enough force in the ball. Shouldn't do it, but a red card was too much, even when we sar the others tackles during teh game.

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trevor February 11, 2010

Lads,

I honestly dont think it was a red card concidering tackles like this happening most games, or every other some go un punished and at most get a yellow!

To be fair he did leave the ground but by christ if this is a standard decision we are very lucky to keep Rooney on the pitch, Late on he made a tackle on Agabanawhore with both feet off the ground and both feet forward. Like nani he caught the defender & his left leg was stretched out studds out not contacting the defender. He also was off the ground also! Result was foul no card at all!

In short we are going to be watching games where our players are tackled like this, in exactly the same manor and only a foul given! Im that much certain o fit!

I could take my monthly wage and bet on it and in 1 week or at most 3 weeks time be sitting with my money back and my winnings!

Referees need to Ern Respect! Respect is not free!

That baldy headed Italian got Respect because he was good!

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trevor February 11, 2010

Lads,

Now that I have got over the Disappointment of Nani’s Red & also the missed opportunity to go 2 points clear or 1 point clear whichever!

Didnt the lads do well with 10 men last night!

They were up against a good Villa side! Who I wouldn’t be surprised finished 4th to be honest. We moved the ball around very well, Rooney was on fire, Giggs started to come into the game and was great. My old Pal Carrick (Who I am not fond of!) played very very well! We really looked like a team with 11 playing against 10! We were very unlucky and I’m actually very pleased with the performance level!

I don’t like losing or dropping points or loosing, but to be honest I don’t even mind loosing as long as we put in a performance! The performance is most important to me as I know if were performing we are very unlucky to loose with the quality and team we have!

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Corea February 11, 2010

trevor - hello. any evidence ? 99% of this tackles are punished with red cards. anyway i don't want to discuss it further. what's done is done.
Ref was too inconsistent after it and didn't manage to control the game. but there were some tackles from our players that also went unpunished.

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Gotta hate tiny tears February 11, 2010

trevor
nice one for the links yesterday
the doctor watched the whole second half in my room funny stuff

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giggs11gerrard0 February 11, 2010

Clear red card, he left the ground with studs up and as a result it was inevitable he was walking.

The blatent miss on Valencia was a joke though.

Great performance from the lads.

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rrou February 11, 2010

guys i think Giles Oakley @1:04 has it spot on. fergie is trying not to antagonise the FA, the amount of fucking biased decisions against us after the "unfit alan wiley" incident only goes to show that referees can be swayed, and i think its entirely plausible that fergie is trying to sway it back into our favour.

at the same time, he has chosen a game in which the referee is SO OBVIOUSLY INEPT that he really need not even point it out, more mind games imo. he gets some FA favour, but at the same time everyone can make a pretty good guess as to what he's up to, and everyone knows what a fucking retard the referee is.

just my two cents..

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Costas February 11, 2010

I think it's the double standards that really annoy fans. I can accept Nani's red card, but where was Gallas' against Bolton? Doesn't Stevie Me get away with stuff like that? Didn't Villa get away with that at the end of the game?

Trevor is right. Respect? For what? For whom? For a balding referee who dyes his hair and who made Davie Elleray look top class?

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Isaidso February 11, 2010

One thing in Nani's favour, his MAGNIFICENT ball from right wing straight to Giggsy whom Nani had spotted in space at the far post, but none of the Villa players had - gave Giggsy time and space to really whack the ball goalwards and bingo - the equaliser of a defender who couldn't get his feet out the way. Pity the same cannot be said about Valencia's crosses which seldom do anything in the box. Rooney will miss Nani because they were just developing an understanding between them. Hope Nani out doesn't mean lost points, but I feel it will. He has been an axis in our improved performances and goals. Hope Fergie plays the lad against AC Milan.

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trevor February 11, 2010

Corea,

Im going to make it my mission to point out tackles like that from now on that go unpunished!

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kean77 February 11, 2010

It´s a red card. and unless there´s nothing wrong with my eyes, I thouth it was the colour of the card the referee produced. SAF had no complaints and thouth it was a clear red card. But c´mon get in! We played fucking amazingly with ten men.

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keano77 February 11, 2010

...under moderation my arse! I misspelled my nick...and there we go!

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keano77 February 11, 2010

It was a red card! SAF had no complaints. But we did fuckin awesomely with just ten men, against a very good side!

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BigL February 11, 2010

it was a yelllow stevie me gets away with tackles like that all the time n did you see the fucking dive last night so arsenal should have had a free kick n he should have been booked for that n the hand ball was outside the area so that fsw can shut the fuck up. lets make it 4 in a row LUHG

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AlphaRS February 11, 2010

@keano77
Agreed. Although their are inconsistancies with the punishment handed out by officials for this type of tackle I still believe this is red card offence.
No player should go in 2 footed in to a tackle whether he is playing for United or against United. The potential for a career threatening injury is too great as their is no ability to control the tackle in mid air.
It's a shame for Nani because he was doing so well for United.
I hope this doesn't mean he has a drop in confidence.

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TheEgoHasLanded February 11, 2010

Definitely a home ref - born in the Midlands.... Yellow would have been reasonable. No worries, one point gained on the rent boys, but a shame to lose Nani for 3 matches.

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erictheking February 11, 2010

He went in with both feet in the air. Even if he got the ball, he could have caused serious harm to Petrov. Whether it was intentional or not doesn't even come into the equation at all.

I for one am happy his stupidity was punished severely. He will think twice next time he wants to lunge like that at an opposition player and jeopardise our chances of winning 3 points!

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Bealsy February 11, 2010

Didnt look like a red from the stands last night (it never does :-p) but watching the replay I can see why a red was given. No malice, he got the ball, but his whole body left the floor. If Stevie GBH had done that we'd be screaming murder.

On another note, we could/should have won the match though. And Villa supporters are shit, couldn't sing if they'd have had the words in front of them. LUHG

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Red Devil February 11, 2010

Off topic

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2557/news/2010/02/11/1785949/manchester-united-mortgaged-old-trafford-report

Please tell me this is not true.....those damned bastards cannot have done that...how can they even entertain mortgaging Old Trafford after all the assurances by Gill and Glazers that Old Trafford and Carrington would not be touched.... it says Bloomberg there....man this cannot be happening :(

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Gotta hate tiny tears February 11, 2010

red devil
goal .com is highly unreliable they just seem to just write anything that maybe overheard in a pub as a story
this is a good view on nanis red
http://a-kick-in-the-grass.blogspot.com/2010/02/st-gerrard-would-have-got-away-with.html

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AlphaRS February 11, 2010

@GHTT
Don't mention anything about the Glazers as the financial god's will start blogging on here with paragraph after paragraph of university thesus.
It's true Stevie Me would have been screaming murder,
But we can't base that tackle on whether Stevie Me would have got away with it or not. I mean Mascherano got away with that elbow and Rio didn't.
Unfortunately it's just the way it seems to be going this season. I'll take 10 own goals in lieu of that though!

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Red Devil February 11, 2010

@ GHTT

I sure hope that is the case.....but the source quoted is Bloomberg mate and the documents seem to be filed at Companies house in the name of JP Morgan Europe
Two names with the highest levels of credibility in the financial world....

yeah....I think that link is really good explanation of the double standards that United have to face upto...If each such tackle got a red, then they would have had to stop the Merseyside derby last week for lack of players on the field...

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Red Devil February 11, 2010

@ AlphaRS

Lol man...that had me burst out laughing!! :D

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Red Devil February 11, 2010

My god....I cant stop laughing....."Univeristy thesus indeed" hahahahahahahahahaha

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AlphaRS February 11, 2010

@Red Devil
You know it's true mate :)
United could be bankrupt and these goons will still be claiming "you know who ;) " have a brilliant business model!

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Gotta hate tiny tears February 11, 2010

@red devil and alphaRS
Im big on the green and gold and i think the glazers are raping the club i love just for money, but i think they are doing enough bad without making up storys just to panic people. its like saying we all know what an evil fucker Josef Fritzl was but did you know he never ever tipped his bin man at christmas.
alright ive to go for my operation now ill see you's all in a few days
luhg

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Red Devil February 11, 2010

@ GHTT

I was just laughing at the way he said it...thats all

All the best for the operation mate...hope to see you soon...Cheers!

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Costas February 11, 2010

@GHTT

I have probably missed a post of yours mate, cause I didn't know you were set for an op. All the best. See you soon.

As far as the OT mortgage goes, I am not surprised. Everytime you borrow something, you mortgage something that belongs to you. And that's what they did. For their sake, I really hope they pay back the bonds.

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Red Devil February 11, 2010

@ Costas

As far as I know, they had made it quite clear that Old Trafford would not be encumbered. Also this stance was repeated at the time of the bond issue that stadium will not be touched...
Anyways, more clarity is needed as to the nature of the encumbrance, etc or whether this story is completely true or to what extent, etc

As you say, I really hope everything goes well for the Glazer's sake coz if they fuck around with Old Trafford, there's gonna be hell to pay...

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Costas February 11, 2010

@Red Devil

I have trouble believing the Glazers, so I didn't believe them anyway. :P Maybe their reassurance that nothing would happen to OT, meant that they would pay back the bonds? Can't say for sure. It was no secret though that OT and Carrington were in brochure. I said it then and I will say it again. No matter what their intentions are, it's disgraceful that they are parading assets that were in the club's possesion long before they came. Even if it's just a formality and we never reach that point.

However, at the moment I say lets wait and see if someone else reports this. I don't expect any info from the club. I am want to see if other media outlests will pick up on this.

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Red Devil February 11, 2010

Costas

You're probably right....lets wait for the story to develop further...

Anyways...gotta go mate....must catch up on some sleep!
Its not easy to work through the day after having slept at 4 am the previous night watching a game (would have been a lot easier if we'd won it though ;) )

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Altonian February 11, 2010

No. He only lunges with one leg and due to the forward motion is other leg follows through but was no where near making any sort of contact with Petrov, he's a dramatic twat though so that's probably what swayed it towards being a red card. Good point to get under the circumstances though.

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Costas February 11, 2010

@Red Devil

Sure pal. Get some rest. You have earned it!

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alan February 11, 2010

has the fa saw the everton liverpoool game.should had been 8 red cards if nanni s was red i hate fa hope england fail in the world cup

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Fred February 11, 2010

Put it this way: if a good honest Englishman like Steven Starfish or Lionheart JT had made the same tackle, it would have been applauded. When it is a Johnny Foreigner like Nani, who no-one really likes, Walton couldn't wait to send him off.

What made me chuckle though was after I had finished listening to Key 103's commentary, in which Mickey Thomas had done a good job in summarising what a good point gained it was for United in difficult circumstances, I switched on Sky Sports News to hear their anchorman hyping up how United had "dropped vital points" in a "CONTROVERSIAL game," with Nani "seeing red for the SECOND time in his United career" (GASP!)

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rooneyworldsbest February 11, 2010

Nani got the ball and hardly made contact with petrov, but once again its the reaction of other players that gets nani sent off.
But Valencia as always looked dangerous on the r.h.s so not really a big loss, If he can be more consistent with his crossing we have two magnificent players.

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GoatinaUnitedShirt February 11, 2010

I suppose weve got the benefit of replays and slow motion. Nani lunged in studs first AT the ball. He got the ball at the same instant as Petrov. Because the ball stopped suddenly Nanis momentum took one foot over the top and onto/into Petrov. Was it malicious NO. Was it meant to be a foul NO. Did Nani go in with only one thing in mind YES but it wasnt to injur Petrov or even foul him. In real time it looked clumsy but Im just wondering was the punishment right, I mean if someone clearly went in with both sets of studs blazing at Petrovs knee, what would have been the punishment there. I think a yellow and final warning would have been enough.
As for the challenges on Valencia, will the FA bring it up like the Rio case as the ref hasn't seen it. Because if he had seen it and did nothing then he is a monumental Prick.

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Corea February 11, 2010

They don't panish the intent, they punish flying tackles with feet off the ground. Why is it so difficult to figure it out ? This tackles are dangerous to the player's careers.
Ref was awful, he might have been biased but this is a red card. Why someone else didn't get it in the past it's another problem. I think i've seen all of this kind of tackles punished with red cards, maybe someone will bless us with some other cases.
I don't know but when i read comments expressing the opposite i get irritated. argh!