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Danny Welbeck

VIDEO: Welbeck's goals for England vs Moldova

September 6, 2013

Scott is the editor of RoM and has a season ticket at Old Trafford. He writes for The Mirror and Red News. He started The Republik of Mancunia in March 2006. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter.

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WeAreUnited September 6, 2013

I think the pressure with england is not there for welbeck andd wit hUnited it is, because we expect so from him

if only he could not feel that pressure and produce the same with Unietd also, his first game was amazing, so the guy will be awesome!

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Frankie September 6, 2013

Pure class!

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belfastred September 6, 2013

Great goals from danny. The second was pure class.

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Costas September 6, 2013

That's it. Work that finishing Danny.

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HONESTY September 6, 2013

Fuck INGERLUN, who cares?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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slim September 6, 2013

Super Danny. Keep working it son

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FletchTHEMAN September 6, 2013

Pure class and deft touch from Danny on both goals. Gutted for danny that 2 terrible ref decisions over the last couple games will keep him out of the next crucial tie. But then, probably best for United that he didn't play anyway.

Danny has been different class this year. Much like we saw in the CL ties v Real Madrid. He is definitely one for the future.

Danny Class!

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OJM September 6, 2013

WeAreUnited:

- Nail on the head. Welbeck is a top, top player, potentially, but the pressure for United seems less than for England. Being a Manchester United fan, a local lad and having come through the system, rather than feel at home, feels pressure.

Good on him for his excellent performance tonight though, and let's start hoping he can replicate it for United.

Top lad!

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samuel - united WE stand September 6, 2013

Seems to play with more freedom with engurland, maybe it's due to the immense pressure at united but welbeck has huge potential and as he hopefully keeps improving his finishing, he'll elevate further up.

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denton davey September 7, 2013

Those were two really well-taken goals - agreed.

BUT let's not go overboard - they were scored against the Giants of Moldova.

When it mattered - really mattered - against CSKALondon @ OT and again @ AnFailed, he messed-up two tremendous chances that would have been the difference between the four points UTD have garnered and seven points which their team-play "deserved".

I'm no critic of DannyTheLad but a sense of proportion is required to properly assess him. So far, he's still very raw - lots of potential and occasional glimpses of a huge up-side but a lot of "inconsistency" of the sort that get Nani lambasted. In this squad, I reckon that he's the fourth-choice #9 - behind RVP, TheWayneBoy, and Chicharito. He will only move up the pecking-order if he can get the positive sides of his game to come to the fore while reducing his wayward finishing in big games that matter to MUFC.

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WeAreUnited September 7, 2013

@ojm amd @samuel exactly

@denton you being too harsh, we know it's moldovia but when you're 1-1 with the keeper, heck it does not matter is it casillas or xxxxx unknown keeper, it's a pressure situation and great strikers are stonecold and chips goals in.
THAT is why we mentioend the pressure being with United affects Danny more than playing for england. just try to separate these.

at the moment RVP is number one but the rest are open, I reckon that at the moment Welbz with his skills is proving himself and we basically have yet to make the pecking order, it will be tough for him, but I'd rather have 4 greats strikers (Henriques and W.keane coming also up) than 2.

peace.

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denton davey September 7, 2013

WeAreUnited @ 00:25: " I’d rather have 4 greats strikers (Henriques and W.keane coming also up) than 2."

Who could disagree with that ?

I don't think I am being "too harsh" - it's a results-driven business and in the clutch the results have not been there consistently.

I'm hoping that he can up-his-game because he could be a real monster - and he's "home-grown" too. Having a Mancs kid star for MUFC is the stuff of dreams - his and mine.

My all-time favourite club team was Glasgow Celtic who won the old Champion's League in 1967 with eleven guys born within twenty miles of Parkhead. In 1999, UTD had Nicky Butt, BigBadWesleyBrown, RedNev and his brother, Ryan Giggs, and TheGingerNinja (who missed the final); in 2008 four of these Mancunians featured again but Philly Neville and Nicky Butt had been shuffled off. How much better would those victories have been if all eleven had come from M61 ? Now, it's DannyTheLad and - maybe - the Keane twins; I don't think that there are any other Mancs boys in the squad and that's just sad.

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Wee Toms Ligaments September 7, 2013

Agreed that Welbeck may not feel as much internal pressure playing for England. Also have to consider the opponent. Good calm finishes both. Obviously a tap in is easy but the run to get there is Welbeck showing his power to run.

Hopefully these sort of positive experiences will build on each other and Welbeck can step up once Van Persie leaves.

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theGbest September 7, 2013

Excellent result for us: Danny-boy gets his confidence up and can't play in the next match, instead enjoying some well deserved rest. Here's hoping Woy continues his brilliant team selection and Carrick continues to enjoy the extra days off as well.

Question: When was the last time we didn't have a starter for a competitive England match? Looks likely for Ukraine. Not complaining mind, 'Made of Glass' Wilshere is due for another injury, and Fat Frank and the other one can continue looking shite until the World Cup that isn't played in Qatar.

United >>>>> the FA's muppets

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Marq September 7, 2013

Seems like pressure is the thing hindering Welbeck, not so much lack of ability. Thats is actually a good thing. You tend to handle pressure better as you gain more experience, usually that is.

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unitedaddicted September 7, 2013

Danny is a much better player than van persie was at 21.

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lordrt September 7, 2013

Does he have a phobia when playing for United? He scores rather freely for England, yet fails to deliver for club when required unfortunately...

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The Hound September 7, 2013

This will do his confidence a world of good scoring twice against a world class outfit like Moldova.

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WeAreUnited September 7, 2013

@thehound

I don't know have you played the hame yourself, but when I was a striker it did not matter against who I scored goals, it mattered that I scored and got the confidence and convinced the manager that scoring is what I do

Do you really thinl Welbs thinks against who he scored? NO.
He thinls, YES I scored again, I proved myself, 2 goals in a bracket and for England again, I got it, I will do this again

And suddenly the confidence of scoring is there. If only he gets the pressure for United off.

@WeeTom

Great comment, never thought of that, when RVP leaves danny is piba ly 25 and at his peak and stedily takes his place. He can be THAT player

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The Hound September 7, 2013

WeAreUnited, you need to turn on your sarcasm detector.

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Sparkz September 7, 2013

Yes it's only Moldova but he's also scored goals against Belgium and Sweden (at the Euros). And for Utd, he's got goals against the likes of city, Spurs, Arsenal, Madrid. So pressure in terms of the level of opposition? Na, I don't think that's a problem for Danny.

However, I do think that at Utd, he's so desperate to do well (plus he also knows that he's competing with some top quality players) that he snatches at chances. With England that pressure doesn't seem to be there for him.

The other thing I've noticed is that he seems to get in the box more for England than for Utd. Maybe it's because at Utd there's more emphasis on him to hustle people and link play up? Whereas with England there's more onus on him to get in the box, I dunno.

As someone has touched on though - some of the top strikers weren't world beaters at his age. He's already achieved a lot...firstly by being the first homegrown striker to establish himself in the Utd team in 30 years...and secondly with his performances for both club and country. Still developing but will be a top player.

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bsfoha September 7, 2013

i wonder why some in here like slagging off welbeck.he is a good player for goodness sake and he's still young.be patient,he will improve.

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The One September 7, 2013

WeAreUnited, spot-on re: Welbeck.

I'm certain, gong by the comments of some on here, that he feels a lot more pressure to score when playing for United which inadvertently affects his composure. There are loads on here who are just too impatient and it doesn't bode well for young players. Tha's the sad truth.

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WeAreUnited September 7, 2013

@thehound

I don't get it, it sounded sarcastic against those who are happy with his 2 goals.

Look I also get it that Welbs is a striker and HAS to score goals, but that being said this season is proving to be good for him, like his first was, but when there's WR and Chicha lurking, it will be hard for Welbs, but this season if everyone stays fit our wingers are Kagawa, Nani Valencia and Zaha +Young so Welbs place will be more as a striker, so he has to fight his place there.

we'll see. now I'm out of this Welbs conversation :P peace.

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bayoRed September 7, 2013

Goalie left looking very stupid in first video. Well done Danny, headache for Moyes.

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eltb99 September 7, 2013

Where's the guy who used to be called 'TheTruth' or something? I wonder whether he still thinks Welbz needs to go out on loan?... I suppose he kinda has, but with England ;)